Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

nrlsurvivor said:
While I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if the Roosters are rorting, according to organisational research the practices below are more important drivers of engagement/retention than remuneration and benefits. A comparison of us versus Roosters on these provides some insight as to why Roosters players might stay where they are for less money:

Success - Roosters (make the finals almost every year, win a few premierships) Tigers (10+ years without finals)
Wellbeing - Roosters (rest players until fully recovered, take head knocks seriously) Tigers (under Madge guys were asked to play injured and we still kinda see this a little, e.g Ken M never looks fully fit)
Values - Roosters (sell players on pride in their history and their book of fueds rivalry with souths) Tigers (media tells everyone that we struggle with our identity)
Leadership - Roosters (Successful father figures to provide life advice and post career support in Uncle Nick and Robbo) Tigers (Lee and Pascoe)
Career Opportunities - Roosters (Rookies learning off guns and veterans, with very few mid range players; sacking players to upgrade a position - such as Cheese told to come and he’ll be given an opportunity to play hooker with Verrils dumped) Tigers (Struggled with development recently but this will be a focus ongoing)
Involvement/Empowerment (not too sure about Roosters approach, Tigers under Madge seemed a bit more command and control)
Recruitment - Roosters (join us and you can learn from a team of rep players) Tigers (join us and the pressure will be on you to perform as our only rep player)
Cross Unit cooperation - Roosters (regularly talk about a one club approach where everyone in the entire club plays a roll in success and all are respected - from the chairman to the strapper), Tigers (??!Can’t comment as I’m not really sure what communication and respect is like between football and non-football staff)
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If rooster's are cheating the salary cap all it takes is 1 disgruntled sponsor or sacked employee in the know to dob them in just like Storm and Bulldogs
 
Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau
 
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Demps said:
Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blorw
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau
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TT in want to see go good.
 
Demps said:
Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau
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If that’s our best side then we can get the cabinet ready for another wooden spoon , we must have well over $ 2,000,000 to spent in the cap , and that is the best team we can come up with 💩💩💩💩
 
Demps said:
Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau
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No new signing? Just injury returns . I think our roster weak and a couple of new signings essential one big fast center eg Ramien and big forward eg Nikora . Not suggesting any specific center or forward but both must be top tier .
 
bptiger 0 said:
If that’s our best side then we can get the cabinet ready for another wooden spoon , we must have well over $ 2,000,000 to spent in the cap , and that is the best team we can come up with 💩💩💩💩
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Agree bptiger that WT are in a lot of trouble if the best 17 picked for 2023 (which I agree with based on what WT have on their books and confirmed 2023 signings).

Really need 2 or 3 hard nosed forwards. Really need to find a JWH (he has been massive for the Roosters continued success). Our forwards appears too nice and rarely scare any opposition forwards. A speedy back would also help the cause.

Another Forum Member stated that Brooks likely to end up at Dolphins which I think for WT and more for Brooks is a great move. Bennett has a history of getting the best out of his players and let's hope Brooks is one of them. Sometimes a player and organisation are not the right mix.
 
Occurs to me to That our medical and rehabilitation is questionable
Blore whole season Talau whole season
Maumalo always seems busted to pick him he must be 100%
Stefano similar out more than he plays
Poor old Tuiaki never played again
Are some clubs better at fitness and rehab
 
Demps said:
Is this full strength 2023 ?

1 Daine Laurie
2 Starford Toa (Nofo, IF he returns)
3 AJ Kepoa
4 Brent Naden
5 Ken Maumalo
6 Adam Douihei
7 Jock Madden or Luke Brooks
8 Joe Ofahengauie
9 Api Korosau
10 Stefano Utoikamanu
11 Shawn Blore
12 Isahia Papali'i
13 Jackson Hastings

14 Alex Twal
15 Fonua Pole
16 Zane Musgrove
17 Alex Seyfarth / Tommy Talau
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If it is, I'm sorry to say it is likely to finish in the bottom 5. While it is a much better side than 2022, it is 2 or 3 players short of a top 8 side. If either Madden or Brooks are the starting half we will struggle. Forwards are top 8 standard if Blore steps up but the backs are very average.
 
Dennisspicer1 said:
Here is something to ponder, in the last 10yrs or more does anyone recollect any east player that east want to keep being taken from them by another club

Crighton example,
east have resigned him with no offers being made by other clubs to obtain him, at least I think. And all the superstars they have, when there contracts are due for renewal they dont go to market, they just resign with east, but myself, I would want to check out my value on the market before signing with anybody, does anyone else see it this way, or is it just my imagination.
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RTS
Latrell
Guerra
Pearce
Matterson
Ferguson?
Mick Jennings
Kenny-Dowell / Napa disipline
I think uncle Nick knows what the salary cap is for next year and thats why Crighton has been waiting patiently
 
nrlsurvivor said:
While I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if the Roosters are rorting, according to organisational research the practices below are more important drivers of engagement/retention than remuneration and benefits. A comparison of us versus Roosters on these provides some insight as to why Roosters players might stay where they are for less money:

Success - Roosters (make the finals almost every year, win a few premierships) Tigers (10+ years without finals)
Wellbeing - Roosters (rest players until fully recovered, take head knocks seriously) Tigers (under Madge guys were asked to play injured and we still kinda see this a little, e.g Ken M never looks fully fit)
Values - Roosters (sell players on pride in their history and their book of fueds rivalry with souths) Tigers (media tells everyone that we struggle with our identity)
Leadership - Roosters (Successful father figures to provide life advice and post career support in Uncle Nick and Robbo) Tigers (Lee and Pascoe)
Career Opportunities - Roosters (Rookies learning off guns and veterans, with very few mid range players; sacking players to upgrade a position - such as Cheese told to come and he’ll be given an opportunity to play hooker with Verrils dumped) Tigers (Struggled with development recently but this will be a focus ongoing)
Involvement/Empowerment (not too sure about Roosters approach, Tigers under Madge seemed a bit more command and control)
Recruitment - Roosters (join us and you can learn from a team of rep players) Tigers (join us and the pressure will be on you to perform as our only rep player)
Cross Unit cooperation - Roosters (regularly talk about a one club approach where everyone in the entire club plays a roll in success and all are respected - from the chairman to the strapper), Tigers (??!Can’t comment as I’m not really sure what communication and respect is like between football and non-football staff)
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yea right and then you have players and RLPA continually ramming home the fact that a playing career is short and players need to be paid more. So what do the rorters players do - stay at easts for far less money than they could get on the open market. Total BS.
 
Tiger_Fanatic3 said:
Mate of mine is in regular contact with the recruitment blokes. Regularly gets his inside info.

He reckons...

Brooks WILL push for a release in the coming weeks...

The smart money says Brooks will be pulling on a Dolphins jersey next season. For whatever reason, he has never managed to find the right groove with WT. I won't shit on him, however he's given some sound performances over the years, although he will be happier elsewhere and might even fulfil his potential. Luke just needs a fresh start. Brooks and Tigers parting ways is best for both parties.
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Thanks for the info, I hope your mate is right.
 
bptiger 0 said:
If that’s our best side then we can get the cabinet ready for another wooden spoon , we must have well over $ 2,000,000 to spent in the cap , and that is the best team we can come up with 💩💩💩💩
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What about the young backs in our system - Scolari, Tupou, Bula, Kirk and the rugby convert? Surely there has to be progression?
 
Has The Pom come on anywhere of late with any info coming up on any player we are are looking at or close to getting signed up , we need a solid update as it seems other clubs are on the ball and we are just sitting back
 
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