Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I’m worried about who he could possibly take with him if he stays. That’s why it might be wiser to cut our losses.
 
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I’m worried about who he could possibly take with him if he stays. That’s why it might be wiser to cut our losses.

It's a point I didn't think of until you raised it in the IC topic. Marsters is the one the comes to mind that he could take with him.
 
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There are only two coaches you get rid of Cleary for Uncle Wayne and Maguire.

Otherwise I’d like to see Payten, Hodgo come in under him for 2 years with the view to take over. By then we are a solid club irrespective of the coach leaving.

Either dump him now for Madge or a younger succession plan. You can’t just get a new coach in 2 years of quality who would rebuild it again another way it won’t work.

Uncle Wayne as football operational manager ( or someone similar )
Bringing in a good up-and-coming coach like Adam O'Brien from the storm to coach the ISP side and move Hodgo to Jersey Flegg.
 
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I think the decision making on future signings should be taken out of Ivan's hands
He wont be able to make clear and conscious decisions in the best interest of our club
If a new coach puts his hand up to coach our club we should consider it
But only if Panthers come to the party with a substantial pay out and some players
Think about it
Say Griffin comes to us
He received a few calls from a few upset Panthers players over what happened
What players ?
Would they get a release and follow Griffin to the Tigers
Maybe Griffin can join our club in a non coaching roll so he can negotiate with new signings
While Ivan has to work under Griffin and with the players he signs
A bit like a Gus Griffin relationship

Oh please give me a break.
You have really gone 360\. Men in white coats waiting outside.

Don't think so Cairnstigers - dumb idea imo.
 
Fox sports retorting that Chris McQueen wants to go to the Cowboys on a subsidised deal, I have no objections to letting him go, as long as we don't pay too much.
 
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Most here, when Griffin got topped by the Broncos, were horrified whenever He was mentioned as a likely candidate for our Coaching job,
Now we have some turning him into some sainted Saviour .

Guys,(and ladies) he’s been sacked by the only two clubs he’s ever been a head coach of.
But let’s not take any notice of that.

Everyone is getting sucked in cos they they feel sorry for him. There are heaps better options out there. Particularly if we get heavily compensated by uncle Phil

Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting
 
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I think the decision making on future signings should be taken out of Ivan's hands
He wont be able to make clear and conscious decisions in the best interest of our club
If a new coach puts his hand up to coach our club we should consider it
But only if Panthers come to the party with a substantial pay out and some players
Think about it
Say Griffin comes to us
He received a few calls from a few upset Panthers players over what happened
What players ?
Would they get a release and follow Griffin to the Tigers
Maybe Griffin can join our club in a non coaching roll so he can negotiate with new signings
While Ivan has to work under Griffin and with the players he signs
A bit like a Gus Griffin relationship

Oh please give me a break.
You have really gone 360\. Men in white coats waiting outside.

Don't think so Cairnstigers - dumb idea imo.

Those players ( if someone actually did ring him)
were probably offering their services if he wanted help Packing. :roll
 
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Most here, when Griffin got topped by the Broncos, were horrified whenever He was mentioned as a likely candidate for our Coaching job,
Now we have some turning him into some sainted Saviour .

Guys,(and ladies) he’s been sacked by the only two clubs he’s ever been a head coach of.
But let’s not take any notice of that.

Most coaches in the nrl get sacked

How many at consecutive clubs, Hooks has got a perfect record, coached: Two Clubs (with players not wanting to play under him him.) and Panthers ( again amongst player unrest).
At least hes consistent.
 
I'm keen on:

Bennett
Fittler

if Cleary does go.

Bennett - he has player pulling power and has been consistently successful (Although may be on the decline?)
Fittler - seems to have the same mantra as Cleary - pick good people, willing to work for each other.
 
Bennett won't come to a club that is struggling (like us)! He would want a top roster that is ripe for finals footy - e.g. Penrith.
Fittler - nah. I don't think he would want an NRL job again. By all reports, he's happy to coach NSW and continue his media commitments.
Maguire is the most likely - but crikey, Souths were playing awfully boring footy under him. I don't know how good he really is. He was receiving all sorts of criticism for his lack of flexibility in game plans.
Yes he won a premiership, but he had the cattle to do it with. Still, he's probably the best available that might want another gig.
 
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Most here, when Griffin got topped by the Broncos, were horrified whenever He was mentioned as a likely candidate for our Coaching job,
Now we have some turning him into some sainted Saviour .

Guys,(and ladies) he’s been sacked by the only two clubs he’s ever been a head coach of.
But let’s not take any notice of that.

Everyone is getting sucked in cos they they feel sorry for him. There are heaps better options out there. Particularly if we get heavily compensated by uncle Phil

Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting

I don't particularly rate Griffin or want him at this club but that "appraisal" was inarticulate dribble from an overbreeder who clearly had an axe to grind.
 
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Most here, when Griffin got topped by the Broncos, were horrified whenever He was mentioned as a likely candidate for our Coaching job,
Now we have some turning him into some sainted Saviour .

Guys,(and ladies) he’s been sacked by the only two clubs he’s ever been a head coach of.
But let’s not take any notice of that.

Everyone is getting sucked in cos they they feel sorry for him. There are heaps better options out there. Particularly if we get heavily compensated by uncle Phil

Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting

I don't particularly rate Griffin or want him at this club but that "appraisal" was inarticulate dribble from an overbreeder who clearly had an axe to grind.

Indeed and he was brought in by channel 9 twice this week to discredit Griffin and throw his support behind Gould. I wonder how much they paid him?
 
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Most here, when Griffin got topped by the Broncos, were horrified whenever He was mentioned as a likely candidate for our Coaching job,
Now we have some turning him into some sainted Saviour .

Guys,(and ladies) he’s been sacked by the only two clubs he’s ever been a head coach of.
But let’s not take any notice of that.

Everyone is getting sucked in cos they they feel sorry for him. There are heaps better options out there. Particularly if we get heavily compensated by uncle Phil

Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting

I don't particularly rate Griffin or want him at this club but that "appraisal" was inarticulate dribble from an overbreeder who clearly had an axe to grind.

And of course Griffin has no axe to grind in his interview, ,
Might be good to hear the opinions of Corey Parker , Moylan, and James Segearo, to name but a few, On the ability of Griffen,
 
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Everyone is getting sucked in cos they they feel sorry for him. There are heaps better options out there. Particularly if we get heavily compensated by uncle Phil

Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting

I don't particularly rate Griffin or want him at this club but that "appraisal" was inarticulate dribble from an overbreeder who clearly had an axe to grind.

Indeed and he was brought in by channel 9 twice this week to discredit Griffin and throw his support behind Gould. I wonder how much they paid him?

Gould discredited equals bad publicity and bad ratings for channel 9.
 
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Everyone is getting sucked in cos they they feel sorry for him. There are heaps better options out there. Particularly if we get heavily compensated by uncle Phil

Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting

I don't particularly rate Griffin or want him at this club but that "appraisal" was inarticulate dribble from an overbreeder who clearly had an axe to grind.

And of course Griffin has no axe to grind in his interview, ,
Might be good to heat the opinions of Corey Parker , Moylan, and James Segearo, to name but a few, On the ability of Griffen,

I don't think it would be useful to hear from any of those people. Don't you think it might be better to hear from someone who might be able to give an appraisal that isn't tainted by personal grievances? That has a bit of balance? The truth probably sits somewhere between "he is the greatest coach ever and has been severely wronged" (the Griffin version) and "he is a complete numpty who should never have risen above coaching reggies" (which Ben Hannant/Phil Gould etc. would have use believe).
 
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Hell Yeah, Ben Hannants appraisal of him last night was very interesting

I don't particularly rate Griffin or want him at this club but that "appraisal" was inarticulate dribble from an overbreeder who clearly had an axe to grind.

And of course Griffin has no axe to grind in his interview, ,
Might be good to heat the opinions of Corey Parker , Moylan, and James Segearo, to name but a few, On the ability of Griffen,

I don't think it would be useful to hear from any of those people. Don't you think it might be better to hear from someone who might be able to give an appraisal that isn't tainted by personal grievances? That has a bit of balance? The truth probably sits somewhere between "he is the greatest coach ever and has been severely wronged" (the Griffin version) and "he is a complete numpty who should never have risen above coaching reggies" (which Ben Hannant/Phil Gould etc. would have use believe).

Funny that Ive never heard even a squeak about him being the greatest Coach Ever,
But, ive heard about plenty who dont rate him as even an ordinary Coach.
Seems like its just Griffin whose pumping Up his own wheels.
That balance that you are talking about is fine, but there seems that theres next to nobody thats sitting on the same side as Griffin
 
We have tried the young up and comer type coaches and have failed each time… Terry Lamb, Mick Potter, we even resurrected JT who was in the coaching wilderness for a long time.

No more experiments and left field failures.

We need an experienced coach with runs on the board.

Flanagan - Cant see him leaving the Shire at this stage.
Bennett - He will choose which club he ends up at, it won't choose him.
Trent Robinson - Previously seemed on the outter. Don't see him leaving the chooks while they are still contenders.
Brad Arthur - Seemed a good choice until this year's train wreck. Did he forget how to coach in the space of 12 months?
Toovey - No thanks.
John Cartwright - See above.
Trent Barret - See above.
Des Hasler - Please no.
Neil Henry - Mixed bag, doesn't inspire confidence.
Anthony Griffin - NRL days are probably behind him.
Madge Maguire - Highest Profile coach off contact. Did a great job with souths before loosing his spark getting the arse. Most likely candidate i would say.

Can't think of anyone else who fits the bill right now. All could change in 12 months though.
 

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