Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

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What a sad and sorry thread this has become in the last few days.

Why aren't we being kept informed? Why aren't we making plays for big-name players?

For starters, nobody here knows exactly who we are and arent making a play for.

Secondly, any expectations that we might be signing good players within days of the end of our season are high to unrealistic. We already signed Mbye early and I just don't get how many Mbye-type players people expect to sign every year.

The team is 1 place off the finals. It's very realistic that the exact same roster can continue to improve (since 2017) and make the finals. Sure a quality footballer or two would help, but I get the impression some folks are too absorbed with the last-round hammering, completely ignoring we comprehensively defeated the same side about 6 weeks earlier - i.e. it can be done.

But the comments about "being informed" - do you not remember years gone by where we were linked to every footballer off contract, and then you got disappointed because most of those didn't pan out?

Who cares if Tevita Pangai toured Newcastle and were werent mentioned. That doesn't mean anything. Those same journos had Pangai verbally committing to Broncos just a few weeks back - i.e. journos are regularly wrong and thing change rapidly in footy.

Just such an alarm from some people and the offseason is 3 days old. I'm not saying "be patient", because you obv arent patient, just be realistic about how long the offseason is and what us possible wrt recruitment.

i cant believe ur comments, HOW MANY MBYE TYPE PLAYERS DO U EXPECT TO SIGN EVERY YEAR. well considering we have let heaps of player go, i would have thought 2-3 and a couple more just below his range. no wonder the clubs got no ambition if they think like u.
 
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Give Munster and TPJ what's left in the safe and sign them to 4 year deals
**Eisenhuth and Gamble could be offloaded with McQueen**
Peachy if he wants to stay in Sydney and can backflip on his deal would also be welcome

Oats receives an honorable mention

Yeah that will cover Munster and TPJ’s salaries.

I think he means what's left in the safe PLUS offloading those three.

Well that still presents a problem because

A. You need to find a club who will take them.

And

B. The players themselves need to want to go.

Even if B if can be negotiated, A is next to no chance. You. can’t offload them if there’s no one to take them.

This is true. McQueen looks to be going already, but i agree it would be difficult to shift the other two.
 
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What a sad and sorry thread this has become in the last few days.

Why aren't we being kept informed? Why aren't we making plays for big-name players?

For starters, nobody here knows exactly who we are and arent making a play for.

Secondly, any expectations that we might be signing good players within days of the end of our season are high to unrealistic. We already signed Mbye early and I just don't get how many Mbye-type players people expect to sign every year.

The team is 1 place off the finals. It's very realistic that the exact same roster can continue to improve (since 2017) and make the finals. Sure a quality footballer or two would help, but I get the impression some folks are too absorbed with the last-round hammering, completely ignoring we comprehensively defeated the same side about 6 weeks earlier - i.e. it can be done.

But the comments about "being informed" - do you not remember years gone by where we were linked to every footballer off contract, and then you got disappointed because most of those didn't pan out?

Who cares if Tevita Pangai toured Newcastle and were werent mentioned. That doesn't mean anything. Those same journos had Pangai verbally committing to Broncos just a few weeks back - i.e. journos are regularly wrong and thing change rapidly in footy.

Just such an alarm from some people and the offseason is 3 days old. I'm not saying "be patient", because you obv arent patient, just be realistic about how long the offseason is and what us possible wrt recruitment.

i cant believe ur comments, HOW MANY MBYE TYPE PLAYERS DO U EXPECT TO SIGN EVERY YEAR. well considering we have let heaps of player go, i would have thought 2-3 and a couple more just below his range. no wonder the clubs got no ambition if they think like u.

2-3 borderline rep players and a few more below that, per season???

Madness. It's not about ambition, it's about reality.

Who are our losses for next year? Actually sit down and think about it. Last year we lost Slimey, Tedesco and Woods- that's a very large bucket of coin, and that's why we picked up a significant # of medium-level players for 2018.

But this year? Sue, Fresh Prince, Milne, Grant, JJ, Tui, Killer. 7 nuffies. Maybe in theory those 7 salaries equate to 2 maybe 3 (at a stretch) borderline rep players in total. But Mbye us already taking some of that cap, because he's only discounted for the first 2 years.

Regardless, you have to actually identify 2 or 3 borderline rep players in the positions you need, have them available and want to join your club. And you still need to fill the Top 30, so it's not as if you can clear out 7 and buy 2\. So the available funds are substantially less.

And we don't even know for a fact that we aren't signing 2-3 better quality players for 2019, because the offseason is 3 days old.
 
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What a sad and sorry thread this has become in the last few days.

Why aren't we being kept informed? Why aren't we making plays for big-name players?

For starters, nobody here knows exactly who we are and arent making a play for.

Secondly, any expectations that we might be signing good players within days of the end of our season are high to unrealistic. We already signed Mbye early and I just don't get how many Mbye-type players people expect to sign every year.

The team is 1 place off the finals. It's very realistic that the exact same roster can continue to improve (since 2017) and make the finals. Sure a quality footballer or two would help, but I get the impression some folks are too absorbed with the last-round hammering, completely ignoring we comprehensively defeated the same side about 6 weeks earlier - i.e. it can be done.

But the comments about "being informed" - do you not remember years gone by where we were linked to every footballer off contract, and then you got disappointed because most of those didn't pan out?

Who cares if Tevita Pangai toured Newcastle and were werent mentioned. That doesn't mean anything. Those same journos had Pangai verbally committing to Broncos just a few weeks back - i.e. journos are regularly wrong and thing change rapidly in footy.

Just such an alarm from some people and the offseason is 3 days old. I'm not saying "be patient", because you obv arent patient, just be realistic about how long the offseason is and what us possible wrt recruitment.

Mate I hope you have a fast typing speed. You use an awful lot of words to say "I disageee" or "no".
 
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Watching some of the names we have spoken about these guys would be realistic targets who could improve the side marginally:

Lowe
Gela-Mosby
Kelly
Hetherington
Latu
Peachey (more valuable in a team that is physically dominant)

To improve the side drastically we would need to go all out for:

Marty
TPJ
Matterson
Tapine
Rapana
Munster
NAS

Most of this second list are free to negotiate in Nov (source zero tackle) and if we are serious we need at least 2 and probably 3 of this calibre.

I know it's a pipe dream at this stage, but the club has to find a way to get it done.

Marty - Roosters
TPJ. - Stay with Broncos
Matterson - Possible
Tapine - Possible, but unlikely
Rapana - Stay with Canberra
Munster - Stay with Storm
NAS - Sorry a bit dense, don't know who this is?

Nelson Asofa Solomona which I may have spelt wrong (but I can spell NAS correctly most of the time).
 
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Watching some of the names we have spoken about these guys would be realistic targets who could improve the side marginally:

Lowe
Gela-Mosby
Kelly
Hetherington
Latu
Peachey (more valuable in a team that is physically dominant)

To improve the side drastically we would need to go all out for:

Marty
TPJ
Matterson
Tapine
Rapana
Munster
NAS

Most of this second list are free to negotiate in Nov (source zero tackle) and if we are serious we need at least 2 and probably 3 of this calibre.

I know it's a pipe dream at this stage, but the club has to find a way to get it done.

Interesting reasoning on Peachey there OMT. Personally, just love the guy as a footballer and would happily take him, just see him trapped in a body that doesn't allow him to show his absolute abilities.

Munster and Tapine would be my first picks off your second list if only allowed two.

With Tapine and Marty peachy would be priceless. Hitting it up after the huth and ET I don't think he'd be as effective.

Balance of our pack is too heavily skewed towards clever workers. Rowdy is a threat near the line, but no one else comes to mind as an impact player.

Imagine Peachey at penriffff with 5 Merrins instead of Kikau and RCG and I think he could have less opportunities against a retreating or indecisive defense.
 
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Give Munster and TPJ what's left in the safe and sign them to 4 year deals
**Eisenhuth and Gamble could be offloaded with McQueen**
Peachy if he wants to stay in Sydney and can backflip on his deal would also be welcome

Oats receives an honorable mention

Yeah that will cover Munster and TPJ’s salaries.

It does at the roosters and bronco's, and more recently the sharks
 
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Knights are signing big names but none apart from ponga have done anything since going over there.

Guerra has been good, and Ramien is coming, he is a huge buy, and Pearce has been in near career best form for a large chunk of the season, Connor Watson was good until he got hurt as well
 
Roosters 2019 team if Taupau goes
1\. Tedesco
2\. Tupou
3\. Mitchell
4\. Manu
5\. Morris/Hall
6\. Keary
7\. Cronk
8\. JWH
9\. Friend
10\. Taupau
11\. Cordner
12\. Chrighton
13\. Liu
14\. Matterson
15\. Radley
16\. Napa
17\. SST
18\. Aubusson
19\. Tetevono
 
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Roosters 2019 team if Taupau goes
1\. Tedesco
2\. Tupou
3\. Mitchell
4\. Manu
5\. Morris/Hall
6\. Keary
7\. Cronk
8\. JWH
9\. Friend
10\. Taupau
11\. Cordner
12\. Chrighton
13\. Liu
14\. Matterson
15\. Radley
16\. Napa
17\. SST
18\. Aubusson
19\. Tetevono

and some on here are saying we should never hope to get 2-3 players the quality of mbye, and then u look at that side go give ur selfs a good upper cut and wake up.
 
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What a sad and sorry thread this has become in the last few days.

Why aren't we being kept informed? Why aren't we making plays for big-name players?

For starters, nobody here knows exactly who we are and arent making a play for.

Secondly, any expectations that we might be signing good players within days of the end of our season are high to unrealistic. We already signed Mbye early and I just don't get how many Mbye-type players people expect to sign every year.

The team is 1 place off the finals. It's very realistic that the exact same roster can continue to improve (since 2017) and make the finals. Sure a quality footballer or two would help, but I get the impression some folks are too absorbed with the last-round hammering, completely ignoring we comprehensively defeated the same side about 6 weeks earlier - i.e. it can be done.

But the comments about "being informed" - do you not remember years gone by where we were linked to every footballer off contract, and then you got disappointed because most of those didn't pan out?

Who cares if Tevita Pangai toured Newcastle and were werent mentioned. That doesn't mean anything. Those same journos had Pangai verbally committing to Broncos just a few weeks back - i.e. journos are regularly wrong and thing change rapidly in footy.

Just such an alarm from some people and the offseason is 3 days old. I'm not saying "be patient", because you obv arent patient, just be realistic about how long the offseason is and what us possible wrt recruitment.

i cant believe ur comments, HOW MANY MBYE TYPE PLAYERS DO U EXPECT TO SIGN EVERY YEAR. well considering we have let heaps of player go, i would have thought 2-3 and a couple more just below his range. no wonder the clubs got no ambition if they think like u.

Yeah mate, because in one season we can go from a club that perenially signs no one to instantly recruiting 3-4 Origin level players. And you can't believe his comments :crazy

It is not that the club don't have ambition, as you put it, it's just that real ambitions take time to realise. If the club cried everytime they didn't get what they wanted, as you're doing, then we'd definitely get no players.
 
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Roosters 2019 team if Taupau goes
1\. Tedesco
2\. Tupou
3\. Mitchell
4\. Manu
5\. Morris/Hall
6\. Keary
7\. Cronk
8\. JWH
9\. Friend
10\. Taupau
11\. Cordner
12\. Chrighton
13\. Liu
14\. Matterson
15\. Radley
16\. Napa
17\. SST
18\. Aubusson
19\. Tetevono

That team is literally better than us in every position on the field.
 
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gee some people on here come up with crap, trying to cover the clubs failure to sign players, the best been players still in the finals, WELL it didnt stop these players been named,

Ferguson to eels
ramien to knights
glasby to knights
sims to dragons
lee to knights
crithen to roooters

not to mention every other player who has changed clubs the name i dont see is the TIGERS signing anyone.

If that's the best list you can come up with of signings the Tigers have missed out on I'm not remotely bothered.

Ferguson has had a good season but he's hardly a game changer.
Ramien looks promising, would have been good to see him at the Tigers. But he's had one season in first grade - everyone on here is always moaning about signing "promise".
Glasby is absolutely bog average.
Sims is a decent bench prop.
Lee is a fringe first grader/backup winger.
Crichton was done a year ago - the Tigers have made a marquee signing more recently.

Ferguson has something like 25 line breaks for this year. That is more than our entire backline combined for the season. He also is bigger and faster than everyone of our backs. IT is dissapointing we didn't make a play for him. If he was willing to go to Parra, then he would of probably heard offers from us.

As a whole, everyone of those players would have at least improved our squad in some capacity.
 
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Roosters 2019 team if Taupau goes
1\. Tedesco
2\. Tupou
3\. Mitchell
4\. Manu
5\. Morris/Hall
6\. Keary
7\. Cronk
8\. JWH
9\. Friend
10\. Taupau
11\. Cordner
12\. Chrighton
13\. Liu
14\. Matterson
15\. Radley
16\. Napa
17\. SST
18\. Aubusson
19\. Tetevono

That team is literally better than us in every position on the field.

That team is quite obviously rorting the cap. There is no 'management' of the salary cap that fits 8 current/very recent SOO players inside of it.
 
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Knights are signing big names but none apart from ponga have done anything since going over there.

Guerra has been good, and Ramien is coming, he is a huge buy, and Pearce has been in near career best form for a large chunk of the season, Connor Watson was good until he got hurt as well

Compared to our signing power they've done terrible.

At least they havent shot their cap tho.
 
Wouldn't mind us making a play for Raymond Faitala-Mariner of the Bulldogs. Was having a good season until injury cut it short.
 
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Roosters 2019 team if Taupau goes
1\. Tedesco
2\. Tupou
3\. Mitchell
4\. Manu
5\. Morris/Hall
6\. Keary
7\. Cronk
8\. JWH
9\. Friend
10\. Taupau
11\. Cordner
12\. Chrighton
13\. Liu
14\. Matterson
15\. Radley
16\. Napa
17\. SST
18\. Aubusson
19\. Tetevono

That team is literally better than us in every position on the field.

That team is quite obviously rorting the cap. There is no 'management' of the salary cap that fits 8 current/very recent SOO players inside of it.
 
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