Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

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That's the official NRL transfer tracker. I left out the re-signings, must have missed the Souths one.

This is the issue (not saying you're doing it, incidentally - but the people who think the Tigers are somehow off the back of the pack recruitment-wise definitely are). We all know what the Tigers have done but generally only have a vague idea of what's going on elsewhere other than that we know there are players signing for other clubs. If you look at the actual transfers on a club-by-club basis it becomes clear that the Tigers are at least holding their own and in fact probably doing more than most.

But who likes facts nowadays?

Sorry 2041 but the only valid analysis of recruitment and retention is to compare our top 30 to every other teams top 30\. And that is not pretty reading. If (and it’s a huge if) numbers 29 and 30 are top shelf experienced first graders, maybe, just maybe, we can agree we are improving in this area where we have failed for a long, long time.

I wholeheartedly agree that the club has been a basket case off the field. However, it can't go from basket case to model performer overnight, ie from a roster that legitimately couldn't be expected to finish outside the bottom four to a contender. The only fair question to ask is "are we improving?" I think recruitment over the past few months is at least a positive sign.

Actually if we think about it rationally the biggest problem is pretty clearly production of our own talent not recruitment. Other than one club that pretty much everyone assumes cheats the cap, nobody gets good purely by signing other teams' established first graders. It's bad cap strategy and all it means is you'll always be paying fair-to-high value. You need a mixture of home-grown talent on cheap contracts - and at the moment we have very little of that.

The people who say "we don't need more development players, we need established first grade talent" are completely missing the point. We are actually doing ok to well at recruiting the latter, at least in recent times. But we need both.

Agreed. After getting sick of being a development club we over compensated imo and stopped altogether.

The real tragedy was there was a window where the Tigers should have had the pieces in place. They produced, within a couple of years, a generational talent at fullback, a legitimately top-end halfback (albeit one who developed slower than might have been hoped) and a rep-calibre prop. Also Mitchell Moses.

Unfortunately, they made two fatal errors. One was loading the salary cap with back-ended deals that stopped them being able to recruit decent talent around that core. The second was being indecisive and not locking up those players well before they hit the open market. Oh, and a third: they put hopeless coaches in charge for several years.

At this point the club is trying to come back from rock bottom with basically nothing in the squad other than Brooks and possibly Liddle that represents both genuine top-end talent and doesn't take up at least a fair chunk of cap space. Blaming recruitment for not being able to bring in a dozen top-end first graders in the space of 12 months is like saying the windows are the reason your house is falling down when you chose to build it on a swamp.
 
We have since day one of the JV struggled to attract quality players in their prime. In the past we have had some success developing juniors, but we have lacked the class to surround them with. Our roster now is top heavy with guys playing their last year or two.

The two signings we have made this year is a step in the right direction. If we can jag two more of that quality or better we could jag a place in the eight. Once again we have to look at the season beyond the next season to be really hopeful of some success as that is when Maguire will get his chance to shape a roster
 
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100% the Dogs want Reynolds back and it’s been discussed at Dogs leadership level as has Foran being released to Manly. I know this as a fact from Dogs people.

Where that leaves us with SJ is interesting as Zorba is close to Des and he may know this information as the Dogs would have told Forans manager he can go at anytime. Des loves him.

Issue is Manly can’t afford him and would have to release players. API, Walker, Taupau are all players Des may release but I’d take all 3 over SJ.

If thats the case i'd take Taupau to play lock and Walker to play centre (cause he might want to play under Madge again), then the team would be lookin the goods

1\. Mbye
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Marsters
4\. Walker
5\. Thompson
6\. Reynolds
7\. Brooks
8\. Twal
9\. Farah
10\. Mataulino
11\. Matterson
12\. Lawrence
13\. Taupau

14\. Packer
15\. Aloiai
16\. MCK
17\. Mikaele / Benji
 
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I'm no Broncos lover but when another club can pull crowds of 30K consistently every week, as well as strong TV audiences, then the NRL and broadcasters will favour them.

Tigers IMO get far more FTA coverage than their form warrants, but we also rate well.

It has nothing to do with favouritism and everything to do with viewership. It's the same type of deal that sees Cowboys play most of their home games on Saturday evening, because that suits the club and the broadcasters.

Yes I see your point Jirskyr, but it's still an unfair leg up that most of the other teams just never get. I mean 8 home games at night in the first 10 weeks when the weather is still hot, 7 day turn arounds, no travelling Come on! That's unprecedented! Split it up a bit, they can still get their precious tv ratings when they play there at other times throughout the year.

All it will do is give the Donkeys a huge advantage for the first 2 months of the comp, not to mention it will probably be coupled with their on field leg ups from the refs also, if last season is anything to go by. No doubt all geared to help Wayne get his parting Premiership - sorry, but it stinks!

I’ve been saying this for ages and have copped heaps for my belief - the Broncos continue to get a leg up right across the NRL because it pays to have them succeed. They only made the top 8 in the last 2 seasons due to refereeing calls. Three games this last season and similar the year before. When was the last time the Broncos lost because of a dud decision? When was the last game you watched the Broncos and felt they didn’t get the 50/50 calls?
Now we have a footy feast at Suncorp and it’s an away game for the Broncos!!!! That’s unbelievable. How can that be argued as fair? Add to that the argument you mentioned regarding the first 2 months of the season and you’d think that’ll be enough to get them into September football.

Agreed. We all know the reasons why it happens but if the NRL is meant to be a fair competition then it shouldn't happen regardless. If it's all about money then why bother with play footy at all. The fact is the Broncs get an advantage and benefit from that year in year out. Seems like $ beats fair go in the NRL.

Hate to be the Reality Police but it would be hard to watch NRL on telly if it was only about fairness and not about the almighty dollar.

The NRL has to stay afloat first and foremost, and it's constantly being challenged by the other sporting codes.

The good news is if there is a true and actual bias that impacts results, it turns off fans, and turning off fans is not good for the bottom line.

So it is in the NRL's interests to keep "fairness" in the top few considerations. Otherwise, what's the point of the salary cap?
 
I could definitely definitely see Dylan Walker at the Tigers - He has wanted to come back to Souths for some time now but we've either not had the cap or we've been flush for outside backs.

But I don't think that path will ever happen - I think the closest he could get is to realign with Madge.

Walks can play 1 or 6 also so he offers that element of versatility in an emergency.
 
2019 will be the make or break season for both Reynolds (getting on the field consistently) and McQueen (recovery of old form). If neither can do it, there is no way either can expect to be there at WT for 2020 despite contracts.
 
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Sorry 2041 but the only valid analysis of recruitment and retention is to compare our top 30 to every other teams top 30\. And that is not pretty reading. If (and it’s a huge if) numbers 29 and 30 are top shelf experienced first graders, maybe, just maybe, we can agree we are improving in this area where we have failed for a long, long time.

I wholeheartedly agree that the club has been a basket case off the field. However, it can't go from basket case to model performer overnight, ie from a roster that legitimately couldn't be expected to finish outside the bottom four to a contender. The only fair question to ask is "are we improving?" I think recruitment over the past few months is at least a positive sign.

Actually if we think about it rationally the biggest problem is pretty clearly production of our own talent not recruitment. Other than one club that pretty much everyone assumes cheats the cap, nobody gets good purely by signing other teams' established first graders. It's bad cap strategy and all it means is you'll always be paying fair-to-high value. You need a mixture of home-grown talent on cheap contracts - and at the moment we have very little of that.

The people who say "we don't need more development players, we need established first grade talent" are completely missing the point. We are actually doing ok to well at recruiting the latter, at least in recent times. But we need both.

Agreed. After getting sick of being a development club we over compensated imo and stopped altogether.

The real tragedy was there was a window where the Tigers should have had the pieces in place. They produced, within a couple of years, a generational talent at fullback, a legitimately top-end halfback (albeit one who developed slower than might have been hoped) and a rep-calibre prop. Also Mitchell Moses.

Unfortunately, they made two fatal errors. One was loading the salary cap with back-ended deals that stopped them being able to recruit decent talent around that core. The second was being indecisive and not locking up those players well before they hit the open market. Oh, and a third: they put hopeless coaches in charge for several years.

At this point the club is trying to come back from rock bottom with basically nothing in the squad other than Brooks and possibly Liddle that represents both genuine top-end talent and doesn't take up at least a fair chunk of cap space. Blaming recruitment for not being able to bring in a dozen top-end first graders in the space of 12 months is like saying the windows are the reason your house is falling down when you chose to build it on a swamp.

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Also told Mitchell Moses to Warriors because of his uncle and Kearneys relationship.

Yeah I read that two days ago

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/warriors-mitchell-moses-corey-norman-set-to-replace-shaun-johnson/68fc2fcd-48f4-4d28-8742-807ffaf1d764
 
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Also told Mitchell Moses to Warriors because of his uncle and Kearneys relationship.

Yeah I read that two days ago

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/warriors-mitchell-moses-corey-norman-set-to-replace-shaun-johnson/68fc2fcd-48f4-4d28-8742-807ffaf1d764

So from SJ to Moses.. Yikes
 
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Also told Mitchell Moses to Warriors because of his uncle and Kearneys relationship.

Yeah I read that two days ago

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/warriors-mitchell-moses-corey-norman-set-to-replace-shaun-johnson/68fc2fcd-48f4-4d28-8742-807ffaf1d764

That’s a strang one tbh
 
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100% the Dogs want Reynolds back and it’s been discussed at Dogs leadership level as has Foran being released to Manly. I know this as a fact from Dogs people.

Where that leaves us with SJ is interesting as Zorba is close to Des and he may know this information as the Dogs would have told Forans manager he can go at anytime. Des loves him.

Issue is Manly can’t afford him and would have to release players. API, Walker, Taupau are all players Des may release but I’d take all 3 over SJ.

Warriors are now looking Mitchell Moses as a possible replacement for Shaun Johnson. Manly are .. sorry Des is looking at getting Keiran Foran back to Manly .. then the Dogs are interested in getting Josh Reynolds back .. so does that leave Shaun Johnson to us .. ?? .. wow now that the coaches circus is over .. let's now have a 5/8 circus .. lol
 
NRL Rumours & Updates
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➡️Jarryd Hayne has accepted he will NOT be a Parrmatta Eel in 2019\. Hayne stated the following,

"I've obviously waited a while to get something on paper but I think the long story short is Parra just can't."

"They've already done their roster. It was done before I actually got there (from the Gold Coast at the start of 2018)."

"You hear speculation that some of those players might be leaving and what not. I think that's what they're waiting for."

"But no one has left yet and pre-season starts in a couple of days so it's not looking good."

➡️**Jarryd Hayne confirmed he is not retiring and looking at his options**.

"**I'm going to have to (look around) because I don't have a job. In four days my contract is over**."

"It's a bit of a lottery (where I will be in 2019)."

"I'm on the market looking for a job. I've got to pay the bills."

➡️Hayne also confirmed he will not rule out a code switch as an option.

"I think I'm open to anything so I'll just have to wait and see."

✏Would you have Hayne at your club in 2019?

#nrl #parramattaeels #hayne #jarrydhayne
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Been saying this for a couple of months now. I can only hope.
 

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