Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[sleeve]

Quick ques what does everyone think about player surnames on jwrsey backs, abdo took idea into consideration and said its defo possible in near future

I'm not a fan.

Players don't own numbers in rugby league. In NBA, NHL, EPL etc players select a number and where that all season. In rugby league numbers define positions that a player plays. In the current format i don't like it.

If we scrapped the numbers 1-17 and went to a system like the aforementioned sports of 00-99 then yes players could have their name on the back of a jersey. There are good merchandising opportunities with the latter, but it does change a 100 year old system of jersey numbers the code has had. Is it worth it?


I am sure the number would still be on the players back(1-17).When it has been used in the past the players name is a few inches above the number and it just identifies the player to a larger audience.Not everybody knows the player names to all the teams starters let alone the people on the bench.

I don't think you understand. Say if little Timmy wanted to get an Mbye jersey. What number would you put on the back of his? It would rotate on a weekly basis. You can't offer the name on the back to some but not all players.

The whole point of name and number on the back of the jersey is sales. It's devalued if you are selling a jersey with a certain name and number on the back, only for that number to be worn by half a dozen other players if the first choice gets a serious injury.

The only option if they want to have names on jerseys is to scrap the current numbering system and go to 0-99.


I disagree a players name can go on the back of the position they are playing as it has always done in the past.Players dont own a number just as they dont own a FG position

You're really confused.

Players names have never gone on the back of club jerseys.

Players don't own a number currently, but this would need to be introduced if the NRL wanted to cash in on this global sport trend.


It has been used in representative football

It has been used in rep games,but they are annual games such as SOO,Australian teams...the players could have their names on it as next year someone completely different may be picked in a certain position...
Club level,numbers only as it would be impossible to keep up with the costs of producing jerseys to put names on different positions week to week when the squad can change week to week with injuries,suspensions etc....just my opinion ...

Why not have most of the team with named jerseys and any issues mean a simple numbered jersey needs to be worn. For example if someone were to get injured or suspended their replacement simply puts on an unnamed numbered jersey. Cuts the cost problem down.

Brilliant idea.

 

[Plato]

Quick ques what does everyone think about player surnames on jwrsey backs, abdo took idea into consideration and said its defo possible in near future

I'm not a fan.

Players don't own numbers in rugby league. In NBA, NHL, EPL etc players select a number and where that all season. In rugby league numbers define positions that a player plays. In the current format i don't like it.

If we scrapped the numbers 1-17 and went to a system like the aforementioned sports of 00-99 then yes players could have their name on the back of a jersey. There are good merchandising opportunities with the latter, but it does change a 100 year old system of jersey numbers the code has had. Is it worth it?


I am sure the number would still be on the players back(1-17).When it has been used in the past the players name is a few inches above the number and it just identifies the player to a larger audience.Not everybody knows the player names to all the teams starters let alone the people on the bench.

I don't think you understand. Say if little Timmy wanted to get an Mbye jersey. What number would you put on the back of his? It would rotate on a weekly basis. You can't offer the name on the back to some but not all players.

The whole point of name and number on the back of the jersey is sales. It's devalued if you are selling a jersey with a certain name and number on the back, only for that number to be worn by half a dozen other players if the first choice gets a serious injury.

The only option if they want to have names on jerseys is to scrap the current numbering system and go to 0-99.


I disagree a players name can go on the back of the position they are playing as it has always done in the past.Players dont own a number just as they dont own a FG position

You're really confused.

Players names have never gone on the back of club jerseys.

Players don't own a number currently, but this would need to be introduced if the NRL wanted to cash in on this global sport trend.


It has been used in representative football

It has been used in rep games,but they are annual games such as SOO,Australian teams...the players could have their names on it as next year someone completely different may be picked in a certain position...
Club level,numbers only as it would be impossible to keep up with the costs of producing jerseys to put names on different positions week to week when the squad can change week to week with injuries,suspensions etc....just my opinion ...

Why not have most of the team with named jerseys and any issues mean a simple numbered jersey needs to be worn. For example if someone were to get injured or suspended their replacement simply puts on an unnamed numbered jersey. Cuts the cost problem down.

Brilliant idea.

Or Moses Mbye could just change his name to Moses Fourteen?

 

[balmain boy]

Quick ques what does everyone think about player surnames on jwrsey backs, abdo took idea into consideration and said its defo possible in near future

I'm not a fan.

Players don't own numbers in rugby league. In NBA, NHL, EPL etc players select a number and where that all season. In rugby league numbers define positions that a player plays. In the current format i don't like it.

If we scrapped the numbers 1-17 and went to a system like the aforementioned sports of 00-99 then yes players could have their name on the back of a jersey. There are good merchandising opportunities with the latter, but it does change a 100 year old system of jersey numbers the code has had. Is it worth it?


I am sure the number would still be on the players back(1-17).When it has been used in the past the players name is a few inches above the number and it just identifies the player to a larger audience.Not everybody knows the player names to all the teams starters let alone the people on the bench.

I don't think you understand. Say if little Timmy wanted to get an Mbye jersey. What number would you put on the back of his? It would rotate on a weekly basis. You can't offer the name on the back to some but not all players.

The whole point of name and number on the back of the jersey is sales. It's devalued if you are selling a jersey with a certain name and number on the back, only for that number to be worn by half a dozen other players if the first choice gets a serious injury.

The only option if they want to have names on jerseys is to scrap the current numbering system and go to 0-99.


I disagree a players name can go on the back of the position they are playing as it has always done in the past.Players dont own a number just as they dont own a FG position

You're really confused.

Players names have never gone on the back of club jerseys.

Players don't own a number currently, but this would need to be introduced if the NRL wanted to cash in on this global sport trend.


It has been used in representative football

It has been used in rep games,but they are annual games such as SOO,Australian teams...the players could have their names on it as next year someone completely different may be picked in a certain position...
Club level,numbers only as it would be impossible to keep up with the costs of producing jerseys to put names on different positions week to week when the squad can change week to week with injuries,suspensions etc....just my opinion ...

Why not have most of the team with named jerseys and any issues mean a simple numbered jersey needs to be worn. For example if someone were to get injured or suspended their replacement simply puts on an unnamed numbered jersey. Cuts the cost problem down.

Because that creates inequality in a playing group. "Why aren't i considered good enough to have my name on a jersey". There is only two options - give it to everyone or give it to no-one.

 

[Tiger5150]

At the risk of sending this thread further off track (please feel free to move mods), I cant believe people cant see through what is behind this "push" for names on jerseys.

Everyone is thinking "oh that might be nice, kids can get their favourite players name etc etc."

It was raised (most recently) in the media (supposedly) by Kailin Ponga, no doubt with a push from his agent or the RLPA.

At present, all the intellectual property in a jersey is owned jointly by the NRL & the Clubs. As a result they get all the sales royalties. As soon as you put Ponga, Suaaili, or Utoikamanu across the back of the jersey, then that is the players IP and they would be entitled to a cut.

 

[Geo]

I remember a Tim Sheens Team list once that went something like this..

4
2
3
12
16

9
7

13
15
10
11
17
8

It was so the opposition didn't know who was playing where..Sheenius..

 

[AJ1]

At the risk of sending this thread further off track (please feel free to move mods), I cant believe people cant see through what is behind this "push" for names on jerseys.

Everyone is thinking "oh that might be nice, kids can get their favourite players name etc etc."

It was raised (most recently) in the media (supposedly) by Kailin Ponga, no doubt with a push from his agent or the RLPA.

At present, all the intellectual property in a jersey is owned jointly by the NRL & the Clubs. As a result they get all the sales royalties. As soon as you put Ponga, Suaaili, or Utoikamanu across the back of the jersey, then that is the players IP and they would be entitled to a cut.

Could they fit Utoikamanu's name on the back of a jersey? At least you get your money's worth

 

[PJ_]

At the risk of sending this thread further off track (please feel free to move mods), I cant believe people cant see through what is behind this "push" for names on jerseys.

Everyone is thinking "oh that might be nice, kids can get their favourite players name etc etc."

It was raised (most recently) in the media (supposedly) by Kailin Ponga, no doubt with a push from his agent or the RLPA.

At present, all the intellectual property in a jersey is owned jointly by the NRL & the Clubs. As a result they get all the sales royalties. As soon as you put Ponga, Suaaili, or Utoikamanu across the back of the jersey, then that is the players IP and they would be entitled to a cut.

Could they fit Utoikamanu's name on the back of a jersey? At least you get your money's worth


 

[Cairnstigers]

I remember a Tim Sheens Team list once that went something like this..

4
2
3
12
16

9
7

13
15
10
11
17
8

It was so the opposition didn't know who was playing where..Sheenius..

I just heard Happy call out BINGO

 

[Spartan117]

Names on Jerseys doesn't work in NRL.

Simple. move on.

 

[Bula]

At the risk of sending this thread further off track (please feel free to move mods), I cant believe people cant see through what is behind this "push" for names on jerseys.

Everyone is thinking "oh that might be nice, kids can get their favourite players name etc etc."

It was raised (most recently) in the media (supposedly) by Kailin Ponga, no doubt with a push from his agent or the RLPA.

At present, all the intellectual property in a jersey is owned jointly by the NRL & the Clubs. As a result they get all the sales royalties. As soon as you put Ponga, Suaaili, or Utoikamanu across the back of the jersey, then that is the players IP and they would be entitled to a cut.

Could they fit Utoikamanu's name on the back of a jersey? At least you get your money's worth

Too many vowels. Need triple word score to be worth anything.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Names on Jerseys doesn't work in NRL.

Simple. move on.

What about a club say tigers allowing jerseys for sale that has a west tigers life members name on its back e.g. benji

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Don’t they have thier name on the back of thier warm up jersey with their WT number ? That seems sufficient to me

 

[Deleted member 3518]

At the risk of sending this thread further off track (please feel free to move mods), I cant believe people cant see through what is behind this "push" for names on jerseys.

Everyone is thinking "oh that might be nice, kids can get their favourite players name etc etc."

It was raised (most recently) in the media (supposedly) by Kailin Ponga, no doubt with a push from his agent or the RLPA.

At present, all the intellectual property in a jersey is owned jointly by the NRL & the Clubs. As a result they get all the sales royalties. As soon as you put Ponga, Suaaili, or Utoikamanu across the back of the jersey, then that is the players IP and they would be entitled to a cut.

Do they get a percentage of the cut in American sports ? I honestly am curious?

Edit; when they negotiate their collective bargaining agreement , the players get 50% of all revenue . I think in the NRL , they negotiated similar , as a salary cap in proportion to whatever the overall revenue was .

 

[TYGA]

At the risk of sending this thread further off track (please feel free to move mods), I cant believe people cant see through what is behind this "push" for names on jerseys.

Everyone is thinking "oh that might be nice, kids can get their favourite players name etc etc."

It was raised (most recently) in the media (supposedly) by Kailin Ponga, no doubt with a push from his agent or the RLPA.

At present, all the intellectual property in a jersey is owned jointly by the NRL & the Clubs. As a result they get all the sales royalties. As soon as you put Ponga, Suaaili, or Utoikamanu across the back of the jersey, then that is the players IP and they would be entitled to a cut.

Do they get a percentage of the cut in American sports ? I honestly am curious?

Edit; when they negotiate their collective bargaining agreement , the players get 50% of all revenue . I think in the NRL , they negotiated similar , as a salary cap in proportion to whatever the overall revenue was .

US Sports the league, players union gets a cut and the players get a pool of funds. It is definitely what is driving the move.

Any such move here hurts clubs. Less revenue for them at the end of the day. Given players change positions and don’t keep numbers and player movement is ruthless in NRL it’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard in years.

Kids buy a Brooks 7 jersey and then he plays at 5/8. If there’s a name I’d assume the jerseys carry numbers.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Anybody who can play 1st grade on a regular basis must be a good player. Let alone 17 origins and 2 tests. He gets my respect.

Who was the coach when Ikin played for Brisbane , Qld and Australia and What is Ikins relationship with this coach

That coach of Australia in 1998 when Ikin played, didn't coach Australia in 1999
What a coincidence, neither did Ikin

Ikin was OK but I didn't think he was that good

Pretty sure it was Fatty when he debuted for Qld and maybe Peter Louis at Norths, before he went to Broncos

He played SOO during Super League war doubt he would have made it if Super League hadn't
happened.Only other claim to fame is he's the son in law of Wayne Bennett and apparently is a handy golfer

 

[Magpieger]

Anybody who can play 1st grade on a regular basis must be a good player. Let alone 17 origins and 2 tests. He gets my respect.

Who was the coach when Ikin played for Brisbane , Qld and Australia and What is Ikins relationship with this coach

That coach of Australia in 1998 when Ikin played, didn't coach Australia in 1999
What a coincidence, neither did Ikin

Ikin was OK but I didn't think he was that good

Pretty sure it was Fatty when he debuted for Qld and maybe Peter Louis at Norths, before he went to Broncos

He played SOO during Super League war doubt he would have made it if Super League hadn't
happened.Only other claim to fame is he's the son in law of Wayne Bennett and apparently is a handy golfer

Golfer... its close enough to be an anagram of Flogger.??

 

[Guest]

He played SOO during Super League war doubt he would have made it if Super League hadn’t
happened.Only other claim to fame is he’s the son in law of Wayne Bennett and apparently is a handy golfer

He played Origin from 1995-2003. So he was still being picked well after the Super League war. He also played for Australia.
I get that people are unhappy with his forecast, but the betting market says exactly the same thing.
Wests are bottom 4 in all premiership markets.
Personally I'm on at 60's and I'll keep piling on until round 4 as I expect them to have a slow start followed by a mid season surge when I'll lay off and take the profit.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

He played SOO during Super League war doubt he would have made it if Super League hadn’t
happened.Only other claim to fame is he’s the son in law of Wayne Bennett and apparently is a handy golfer

He played Origin from 1995-2003. So he was still being picked well after the Super League war. He also played for Australia.
I get that people are unhappy with his forecast, but the betting market says exactly the same thing.
Wests are bottom 4 in all premiership markets.
Personally I'm on at 60's and I'll keep piling on until round 4 as I expect them to have a slow start followed by a mid season surge when I'll lay off and take the profit.

60/1......was that to win the premiership?
I'll probably wait a few weeks (expecting us to lose at least the first 2 games) until I get on us for the 8. Think this is the year we finally break the drought.

 

[jadtiger]

He played SOO during Super League war doubt he would have made it if Super League hadn’t
happened.Only other claim to fame is he’s the son in law of Wayne Bennett and apparently is a handy golfer

He played Origin from 1995-2003. So he was still being picked well after the Super League war. He also played for Australia.
I get that people are unhappy with his forecast, but the betting market says exactly the same thing.
Wests are bottom 4 in all premiership markets.
Personally I'm on at 60's and I'll keep piling on until round 4 as I expect them to have a slow start followed by a mid season surge when I'll lay off and take the profit.

60/1......was that to win the premiership?
I'll probably wait a few weeks (expecting us to lose at least the first 2 games) until I get on us for the 8. Think this is the year we finally break the drought.

That would be my plan also,the first 4-5 games should see our price blow out that should be the ideal time to get on

 

[The-moP]

Edene Gebbie has arrived in Sydney and has started his 14 days quarantine .. !!