Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Geo]

Megan Markle is a Bogan..

 

[hank37w]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Can you point me in the direction to where you find those stats, I’d be keen to see what the others were ty


Cheers.
I thought we'd had Klemmer contained quite good and struggled more with Saifiti - as he tends to offload and we were clearly trying more to stop that when tackling him.
Surprised with Twal's stats and must say I've noticed a bit of onfield leadership from him of late.
Good metres from Luciano but have been worried a little about him, as besides the defensive issues (which I believe can be sorted going off Gardner's turnaround) notice he's being heavily targeted in games and not sure if his confidence is a bit down. Can't wait to see him back to his best, as I love the energy he brings to the team.

Warriors I notice have a few players leading with [PCM](https://www.nrl.com/stats/players/?competition=111&season=2021&stat=1000112) with Twal in the Top 50. We're coming 13th and 15th however with PCM and run metres collectively as a team, which is a little disappointing considering we've now got some [size](https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/11/super-sized-warriors-revive-2002-strategy-with-nrls-heaviest-squad/).

Crazy meters for knights

Newcastle errors largely kept us in the game. Those stats show we still have alot to work on in the forwards. LL copped a fair bit of criticism but he works harder than anyone else.

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Can you point me in the direction to where you find those stats, I’d be keen to see what the others were ty


Cheers.
I thought we'd had Klemmer contained quite good and struggled more with Saifiti - as he tends to offload and we were clearly trying more to stop that when tackling him.
Surprised with Twal's stats and must say I've noticed a bit of onfield leadership from him of late.
Good metres from Luciano but have been worried a little about him, as besides the defensive issues (which I believe can be sorted going off Gardner's turnaround) notice he's being heavily targeted in games and not sure if his confidence is a bit down. Can't wait to see him back to his best, as I love the energy he brings to the team.

Warriors I notice have a few players leading with [PCM](https://www.nrl.com/stats/players/?competition=111&season=2021&stat=1000112) with Twal in the Top 50. We're coming 13th and 15th however with PCM and run metres collectively as a team, which is a little disappointing considering we've now got some [size](https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/01/11/super-sized-warriors-revive-2002-strategy-with-nrls-heaviest-squad/).

Crazy meters for knights

Newcastle errors largely kept us in the game. Those stats show we still have alot to work on in the forwards. LL copped a fair bit of criticism but he works harder than anyone else.

[Abc](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-28/nrl-scorecentre-titans-defeat-cowboys-wests-tigers-beat-knight/100029114) stats tell a different story.
Just went to check on foxsports nrl site for the team stats which still has Aloiai in the Wests Tigers player list ?

How many post contact metres did they have him making for us against Newcastle?

 

[Cairnstigers]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

I did think about the time on the field but this chart doesn't show it
By the way
Why don't you add up all the minutes played by our guys and compare against the two Newcastle boys
Surely the 4 Tigers mentioned in total played as many minutes
Yet our meters are still way down
Maybe we had better field position?
Our guys had fresh legs yet we couldn't inflict the damage we should have
And if our forwards did more work for the time they are on then our backs would be fresher ?




So 2 guys from Newcastle killed our 4 main guys in meters and tackles combined but you and 10 others are happy with that

 

[rihannafan1]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

I did think about the time on the field but this chart doesn't show it
By the way
Why don't you add up all the minutes played by our guys and compare against the two Newcastle boys
Surely the 4 Tigers mentioned in total played as many minutes
Yet our meters are still way down
Maybe we had better field position?
Our guys had fresh legs yet we couldn't inflict the damage we should have
And if our forwards did more work for the time they are on then our backs would be fresher ?




So 2 guys from Newcastle killed our 4 main guys in meters and tackles combined but you and 10 others are happy with that

I thought so too but as @Strongee said many of our sets were on their line so you're not going to make many metres because of that. Compared to them normally coming out of their own end, their tries being from a Barnet and Frizell break and the long minutes those players played.

On that point, props to Barnett for playing with what looked like a painful injury and being a handful.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Megan Markle is a Bogan..

The fact you know enough about her to make that sort of judgement says more about you than her.

 

[Telltails]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

I did think about the time on the field but this chart doesn't show it
By the way
Why don't you add up all the minutes played by our guys and compare against the two Newcastle boys
Surely the 4 Tigers mentioned in total played as many minutes
Yet our meters are still way down
Maybe we had better field position?
Our guys had fresh legs yet we couldn't inflict the damage we should have
And if our forwards did more work for the time they are on then our backs would be fresher ?




So 2 guys from Newcastle killed our 4 main guys in meters and tackles combined but you and 10 others are happy with that

I thought so too but as @Strongee said many of our sets were on their line so you're not going to make many metres because of that. Compared to them normally coming out of their own end, their tries being from a Barnet and Frizell break and the long minutes those players played.

On that point, props to Barnett for playing with what looked like a painful injury and being a handful.

The team stats will show territory and possession was even - the biggest difference was in errors 18 Newcastle - WTs 8. They had more run metres and less missed tackles.
We took advantage of there errors and won but our boys will need to do alot better than that to win most games.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/match-centre/NRL20210307/stats

 

[fibrodreaming]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

If you really want to look at the whole stats, we had 52% possession, completed 6 more sets than Knights yet still ran 200 metres less than them. Definitely an area that needs some improvement.

Compiling NRL stats must be difficult - so much depends on interpretation.

I usually look at the Fox stats and they tell a slightly different story to yours. According to Fox we didn't have 52% possession, we didn't complete 6 more sets and we didn't run 200 metres less than Newcastle.

According to Fox:
Possession and Territory was 50% / 50%;
Newcastle had 39 sets to our 38;
Newcastle completed 27 sets (69%) to our 31 completions (81%);
Newcastle made 324 tackles to our 316 tackles;
Even though we completed more sets Newcastle had more runs - 171 runs to 159 runs.
Newcastle ran 1553 metres (average 9.08 metres per run);
We ran 1425 metres (average 9 metres per run).

Based on these stats the differences between the sides was not as great as the stats you quote. Who to believe ?

 

[Merlot]

its not often we win a game based on conversions,any stat's on that,brains trust

 

[Speed2burn]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

 

[Russell]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

And quite a few were forced errors.

 

[Speed2burn]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

And quite a few were forced errors.

Even when we win, we don’t win according to some people, it’s the other team losing it

 

[NT_Tiger]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

And quite a few were forced errors.

Even when we win, we don’t win according to some people, it’s the other team losing it

Welcome to the forum

 

[Speed2burn]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

And quite a few were forced errors.

Even when we win, we don’t win according to some people, it’s the other team losing it

Welcome to the forum

Thx

 

[Merlot]

same as the team we support,do's ya head in at times lol

 

[BAGNF05]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

And quite a few were forced errors.

Even when we win, we don’t win according to some people, it’s the other team losing it

Shibasaki to be fair to the rest of the Knights

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

If you really want to look at the whole stats, we had 52% possession, completed 6 more sets than Knights yet still ran 200 metres less than them. Definitely an area that needs some improvement.

Compiling NRL stats must be difficult - so much depends on interpretation.

I usually look at the Fox stats and they tell a slightly different story to yours. According to Fox we didn't have 52% possession, we didn't complete 6 more sets and we didn't run 200 metres less than Newcastle.

According to Fox:
Possession and Territory was 50% / 50%;
Newcastle had 39 sets to our 38;
Newcastle completed 27 sets (69%) to our 31 completions (81%);
Newcastle made 324 tackles to our 316 tackles;
Even though we completed more sets Newcastle had more runs - 171 runs to 159 runs.
Newcastle ran 1553 metres (average 9.08 metres per run);
We ran 1425 metres (average 9 metres per run).

Based on these stats the differences between the sides was not as great as the stats you quote. Who to believe ?

Shouldn't this stuff be in "The Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics" thread?

 

[Speed2burn]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

And quite a few were forced errors.

Even when we win, we don’t win according to some people, it’s the other team losing it

Shibasaki to be fair to the rest of the Knights

He made Rob Jennings look like an immortal ?

 

[JC99]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

If you really want to look at the whole stats, we had 52% possession, completed 6 more sets than Knights yet still ran 200 metres less than them. Definitely an area that needs some improvement.

Not really . Most of thier drop balls were on the halfway or near thier own try line . So if the maximum distance you can travel is 30-40m , and we didn’t take advantage of those drop balls , it stands to reason that our average metres will be affected doesn’t it ?

They were dropping balls everywhere. What killed us was the offloads

 

[JC99]

Surely tuki offers more on bench then any player on the current bench does baring Stefano

I would give tuki a go on the bench
If he can do what Stefano has done in his short time with us then our bench would be one of the strongest in the comp
I was a little disappointed with Musgrove on the weekend but 1st game back so will give a little leniency
Ofahengaue also needs to produce more meters
Musgrove needs more tackles
Our team needs to share the load of work to be more efficient and effective

On the weekend
D. Klemmer 197 meters 37 tackles
D. Saifiti 162 meters 27tackles

2 man Total 359 meters 64 tackles


J. Tamou 76meters 26 tackles
Z. Musgrove 97meters 8 tackles
J. Ofahengaue 59meters 20 tackles
T. Mikaele 32meters 14 tackles

Our 4 man total 264 meters 68 tackles
I would expect more from our big 4

I know I left Stefano out who was our best but he is also our most inexperienced

Either show complete stats or nothing.

Klemmer played 72 mins, most of our props played 30-40. So of course he made more total metres. Our backs also take 3/5 hitups per set so forwards only get two between them usually.

This is pretty basic stuff here people.

If you really want to look at the whole stats, we had 52% possession, completed 6 more sets than Knights yet still ran 200 metres less than them. Definitely an area that needs some improvement.

Compiling NRL stats must be difficult - so much depends on interpretation.

I usually look at the Fox stats and they tell a slightly different story to yours. According to Fox we didn't have 52% possession, we didn't complete 6 more sets and we didn't run 200 metres less than Newcastle.

According to Fox:
Possession and Territory was 50% / 50%;
Newcastle had 39 sets to our 38;
Newcastle completed 27 sets (69%) to our 31 completions (81%);
Newcastle made 324 tackles to our 316 tackles;
Even though we completed more sets Newcastle had more runs - 171 runs to 159 runs.
Newcastle ran 1553 metres (average 9.08 metres per run);
We ran 1425 metres (average 9 metres per run).

Based on these stats the differences between the sides was not as great as the stats you quote. Who to believe ?

The NRL are the official stats so that's what I go off.

 

[rihannafan1]

Saw the stats yday and scratched my head at how we won. The errors and surprisingly, our kicking game are what saved us.

Everyone keeps banging on about the knights errors yet forgets we bombed about 3-4 tries ourselves

I can only remember the Mbye one? Which was a sitter and should have shut the gate.