Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377890) said:
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377881) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377802) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377797) said:
Good buy.
Talented but surrounded by rubbish at the Bulldogs who have dragged him down to their level.
People on here are so quick to write players off.

He’s crap ..
So we remain a dumping ground while the Dogs sign Addo-Carr
Makes sense ?

Hey was Dallin Watene-Zelezniak the good one when at the Pamfers..or was that Malakai..?

Neither of them

Funny I remember everyone on here wishing to God we had signed DWZ when we signed Malakai.
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

No team can carry 3 or 4 rookies making 4 errors a game just so they can get get experience. There are a lot of basic skills that need to be mastered before first grade. Effort, ball security, reading an attack, tackling technique and many other skills should all be learnt in under 21's and reserve grade, and developing players should be our main focus in those grades. Some players will become impatient and leave and some will be ready for first grade at 17.

It is a difficult balancing act but we have promoted some players in too early in the last few years because we did not have enough depth in our roster.
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year
 
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

Doesn’t make sense, isn’t Oates meant to be touring the facilities this week? & I am still hearing discussions with Manu are continuing are you saying these deals are off the table?
 
@iofthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378130) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

Doesn’t make sense, isn’t Oates meant to be touring the facilities this week? & I am still hearing discussions with Manu are continuing are you saying these deals are off the table?

Manu?
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378131) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378130) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

Doesn’t make sense, isn’t Oates meant to be touring the facilities this week? & I am still hearing discussions with Manu are continuing are you saying these deals are off the table?

Manu?

Maybe Willie Manu
 
@jrdee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378133) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378131) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378130) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

Doesn’t make sense, isn’t Oates meant to be touring the facilities this week? & I am still hearing discussions with Manu are continuing are you saying these deals are off the table?

Manu?

Maybe Willie Manu

Maybe sika manu lol
 
@iofthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378130) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

Doesn’t make sense, isn’t Oates meant to be touring the facilities this week? & I am still hearing discussions with Manu are continuing are you saying these deals are off the table?

1st I hear of Manu and Oates touring the pull up tents.. Care to share anymore info ??
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

Spot on Thaiger. What a shambles we have become signing rejects from Canterbury.
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377998) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377991) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377934) said:
On 350k a year he's a fine signing. The talented youngsters in the backline we have are a few years yet (Saukuru, Compton) and guys like Hoffman and especially Kei, are not ready atm. Cini deserves another shot imo but hasn't achieved 1/20 of what DWZ has.

By '23 DWZ has either recaptured good form or a benchie and our young blokes have kicked on.

He's not a bad player and 100 miles ahead of Jennings, Nick Meaney, Tuala, Toa who start for NRL teams on not that much less. He's Momorovski level atm and they'd be roughly the same price.

Just another good, solid player to have around the team. The rebuild continues well.

Agree ..... he’ll do a job for us on the wing .... something our occupants have struggled to do all season.
Also a cheap fullback backup ..... he’s a type of player that ... if signed by the Storm system would flourish his career ..... so I suppose it’s up to Tigers system. And on Madge to call it.
Nope I have no problem with this approach. I might also say that we would not have issues with our wing shortage if we didn’t let Go of Corey and Momo ...l that was plain stupid.

We didnt let go of momo...momo was neccessary for Laurie.....

You don’t let go of a good player when you know the the good player is 8 months away from being already signed and delivered.
That’s just rubbish logic.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

DWZ will be our experienced player dropping balls and playing the ball backwards.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading - employers don’t ever let the god ones go.

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading him. Employers never let the good ones go.

No thanks. I’d rather spend it on real quality.
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378147) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading - employers don’t ever let the god ones go.

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading him. Employers never let the good ones go.

No thanks. I’d rather spend it on real quality.

He's been at two clubs, was excellent at Penrith and got massively overpaid by Bulldogs.

Good players get let go all the time by clubs too.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378152) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378147) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading - employers don’t ever let the god ones go.

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading him. Employers never let the good ones go.

No thanks. I’d rather spend it on real quality.

He's been at two clubs, was excellent at Penrith and got massively overpaid by Bulldogs.

Good players get let go all the time by clubs too.

Not on my watch.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378146) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

DWZ will be our experienced player dropping balls and playing the ball backwards.

He’s already moved in with Nofo
 
@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378161) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378146) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

DWZ will be our experienced player dropping balls and playing the ball backwards.

He’s already moved in with Nofo

The Dogs get JAC
WTs get DWZ

?
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378154) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378152) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378147) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading - employers don’t ever let the god ones go.

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading him. Employers never let the good ones go.

No thanks. I’d rather spend it on real quality.

He's been at two clubs, was excellent at Penrith and got massively overpaid by Bulldogs.

Good players get let go all the time by clubs too.

Not on my watch.

I'll appoint you CEO right now then ? keep all our good players please
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378163) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378161) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378146) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

DWZ will be our experienced player dropping balls and playing the ball backwards.

He’s already moved in with Nofo

The Dogs get JAC
WTs get DWZ

?

I reckon JAC might be thinking DWZ got the better deal after a year with the dogs (if DWZ rumour is true)?
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378154) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378152) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378147) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading - employers don’t ever let the god ones go.

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading him. Employers never let the good ones go.

No thanks. I’d rather spend it on real quality.

He's been at two clubs, was excellent at Penrith and got massively overpaid by Bulldogs.

Good players get let go all the time by clubs too.

Not on my watch.

Joffa who just got picked for QLD says hello.
 
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378147) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading - employers don’t ever let the god ones go.

@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378120) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378097) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378061) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378058) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - surely we should be giving the likes of these priority and spending the dollars in other key positions?!

It’s like we just want to make the same mistakes over and over. Average, mid to late 20s players and forget everyone else.

Why do we even bother with a youth push?

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1378043) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377760) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377758) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377746) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377734) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1377732) said:
Talks between Bulldogs & Tigers with DWZ advanced quickly over the weekend, strong chance he's playing for us against Eels in round 14.
Money being the biggest issue for 2022, dogs expected to chip in around the $300-$350k mark, Tigers offering this season & 22/23

Thanks @THE_POM , are we looking at anyone else??

Brisbane have closed the door on Issako (For now), don't think they expected the backlash from the well documented trip, Every chance Walters will still be released to free up another roster spot.
James Roberts has all but sealed his option being activated for 2022. Leilua not looking likely he'll be here, was briefly discussed that they'll let the option expire & then re-negotiate terms with BJ on a lesser deal but have to see if he's keen on that.
Discussion with re-signing Luciano have begun & everyone involved is confident something will be confirmed prior to November 1st

Thanks Pom, hope we’re not paying JTJ any more money, apart from finishing a couple of tries on the weekend, what has he done?! Needs to prove he actually wants to be a footy player. I hope we hold off for another month.

His option for 2022 is only 50k more than this year.

But he's still done nothing to warrant an extension at this stage. Friday was his first decent game, and even then he wasn't targeted in defence once all game. Did he even make a tackle?

Even if he's cheap he takes up a squad position that isn't going to the likes of Ogden. We already have Hoffman and Kei next season taking up space next season, we can't fill out the squad with a whole heap of sub par players.

100% BB - why do we even bother with a youth strategy that seems to be working? Targets of average mid to late 20s that nobody else want.

There's been a massive focus on youth and junior development but you can't fill your whole squad with them, you need some experienced first graders.

Same mistakes over and over. We embarked on a proper youth strategy a couple of years ago which seems to be working and now we are bringing in average players who really aren’t worth the prices they are asking and being discarded by others for a reason, mind you. That’s not how youth get experience in first grade.

What duds have we signed and who's spot are they taking.... we desperately need a winger, what young winger is standing out?

Talau can barely catch a footy and we can't afford to have him in first grade. DWZ fixes that problem. Madge has clearly shown he's willing to give rookies a go regardless of who's in the top 30, stop worrying about things that haven't happened.

Your whole team can't just be rookies who are finding their feet, you won't win games then the best ones leave for the big clubs - it's all about balancing youth and experience.

Madge and hartigan have been massive in the youth department, they know what they're doing in that regard. No need to worry about it just because we are wanting to sign a 25 year old New Zealand international in a position we desperately need. We've still got plenty of spots in our 30 next year

He must be good if clubs keep offloading him. Employers never let the good ones go.

No thanks. **I’d rather spend it on real quality.**

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