Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[JC99]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

 

[avocadoontoast]

Chammas reporting Isaac Liu to Titans


what money TPJ to the roosters?

Isaac Liu let go...Corder retired...TPJ at the SBW fight, in Sonny's camp (with Cooper and Mundine)...Sonny is his mentor...

TPJ is an absolute certainty IMO to end up there. His manager will have used us purely to establish market value...i.e. Tigers value you at 650 mate, let's see what the Roosters come up with...and they now have the money.

Hoping I am wrong, but this is basically groundhog day whenever we are close to getting a big name.

We are the biggest doormat in any professional sport.. Something needs to change urgently at the club.

I haven’t seen anything to even suggest the Roosters are after him though. Let’s wait and see what happens.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

 

[jrtiger]

Chammas reporting Isaac Liu to Titans


what money TPJ to the roosters?

Isaac Liu let go...Corder retired...TPJ at the SBW fight, in Sonny's camp (with Cooper and Mundine)...Sonny is his mentor...

TPJ is an absolute certainty IMO to end up there. His manager will have used us purely to establish market value...i.e. Tigers value you at 650 mate, let's see what the Roosters come up with...and they now have the money.

Hoping I am wrong, but this is basically groundhog day whenever we are close to getting a big name.

We are the biggest doormat in any professional sport.. Something needs to change urgently at the club.

simple. turn up each week and throw yourself into everything. currently we have a group of centres and wingers that couldn't tackle a scarecrow. nothing will change until our squad rolls up their sleeves. thankfully Madge won't quit and will see this through, because many a coach would give up.

the minute that our first grade side starts having a crack and our youngsters fully establish themselves in first grade, that is when the elite talent will take notice. until then nothing changes.

 

[jrtiger]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

I'd have Twal over Lodge any day of the week. as a bloke and a footballer.

 

[hsvjones]

Chammas reporting Isaac Liu to Titans


what money TPJ to the roosters?

Isaac Liu let go...Corder retired...TPJ at the SBW fight, in Sonny's camp (with Cooper and Mundine)...Sonny is his mentor...

TPJ is an absolute certainty IMO to end up there. His manager will have used us purely to establish market value...i.e. Tigers value you at 650 mate, let's see what the Roosters come up with...and they now have the money.

Hoping I am wrong, but this is basically groundhog day whenever we are close to getting a big name.

We are the biggest doormat in any professional sport.. Something needs to change urgently at the club.

I haven’t seen anything to even suggest the Roosters are after him though. Let’s wait and see what happens.

Unfortunately we have watched this show far too many times and know the ending..
Our Last big name player was Josh Reynolds and we know how that went. Until we get someone of quality I am not convinced.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

I'd have Twal over Lodge any day of the week. as a bloke and a footballer.

As a bloke Twal no question but as a player I’d take Lodge every day of the week. Twal’s a bit of a plodder imo… we look better when him and Tamou come off.

 

[happy_tiger]

Chammas reporting Isaac Liu to Titans


what money TPJ to the roosters?

Isaac Liu let go...Corder retired...TPJ at the SBW fight, in Sonny's camp (with Cooper and Mundine)...Sonny is his mentor...

TPJ is an absolute certainty IMO to end up there. His manager will have used us purely to establish market value...i.e. Tigers value you at 650 mate, let's see what the Roosters come up with...and they now have the money.

Hoping I am wrong, but this is basically groundhog day whenever we are close to getting a big name.

We are the biggest doormat in any professional sport.. Something needs to change urgently at the club.

It won't Jonesy ....

 

[JC99]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

Again he's a solid player but when you've got a heap of big, one dimensional forwards it doesn't make a heap of sense to sign another one on $500k a year. He'll go fine just think they need a more mobile bloke in the middle

 

[the_third]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

Again he's a solid player but when you've got a heap of big, one dimensional forwards it doesn't make a heap of sense to sign another one on $500k a year. He'll go fine just think they need a more mobile bloke in the middle

spot on

 

[jrtiger]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

I'd have Twal over Lodge any day of the week. as a bloke and a footballer.

As a bloke Twal no question but as a player I’d take Lodge every day of the week. Twal’s a bit of a plodder imo… we look better when him and Tamou come off.

honestly I think it says more about Tamou than it does Twal. you can't pair two workhorses in the front row to start the game. unfortunately though, Madge won't budge. I'd happily have Stef, Joffa or Mikaele next to Twal, but apparently Tamou's leadership is 'invaluable'

 

[happy_tiger]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

Again he's a solid player but when you've got a heap of big, one dimensional forwards it doesn't make a heap of sense to sign another one on $500k a year. He'll go fine just think they need a more mobile bloke in the middle

They must bang their heads every time they think and see Isiaiah Papalii at the eels

 

[JC99]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

Again he's a solid player but when you've got a heap of big, one dimensional forwards it doesn't make a heap of sense to sign another one on $500k a year. He'll go fine just think they need a more mobile bloke in the middle

They must bang their heads every time they think and see Isiaiah Papalii at the eels

What a blunder that was! I wish we got him I really wanted him here lol

 

[TheDaBoss]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

Again he's a solid player but when you've got a heap of big, one dimensional forwards it doesn't make a heap of sense to sign another one on $500k a year. He'll go fine just think they need a more mobile bloke in the middle

They must bang their heads every time they think and see Isiaiah Papalii at the eels

What a blunder that was! I wish we got him I really wanted him here lol

His offloads ahhhhhhhhhhh, he must disloczte his arm or something cause they kill us and any team

 

[JC99]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

I think lodge is really underrated (as a player not a person) he always gains momentum with his carries and gets on the front foot with a Quik play the ball

He's certainly not a bad player I just don't think they need another prop like him, they've got plenty of tough hard working props they need some more flair around the middle of the field

AFB and Lodge is a pretty good starting middle. Absolutely craps on ours.

Again he's a solid player but when you've got a heap of big, one dimensional forwards it doesn't make a heap of sense to sign another one on $500k a year. He'll go fine just think they need a more mobile bloke in the middle

They must bang their heads every time they think and see Isiaiah Papalii at the eels

What a blunder that was! I wish we got him I really wanted him here lol

His offloads ahhhhhhhhhhh, he must disloczte his arm or something cause they kill us and any team

He's got curly wurly arms

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So Kurt Capewell has signed for Broncos for 3 years and add Reynolds and thats 2 Top line players for a team is disarray ..
Meanwhile at Tigers headquarters .... Crickets rubbing there legs together.

On a serious note I hope this mean they release TPJ

So Kurt Capewell has signed for Broncos for 3 years and add Reynolds and thats 2 Top line players for a team is disarray ..
Meanwhile at Tigers headquarters .... Crickets rubbing there legs together.

On a serious note I hope this mean they release TPJ

I would say it’s a good sign. Kev can save face by saying he’s releasing TPJ as they got capewell.

Capewell is for next year
They still have a season to finish
If they release him now they will want someone in return for this year

Nepotism still on the table?

Best thing Iken cld do to stamp his authority is to say nup...Kevvies son hasnt been a 1st grader for 27 years...and as current cellar dwellars were not going to give him a 5th chance to confirm that...!
Think his contract with WTs finishes this year so its all over

Kevvie thinks they are the Cleary’s.

 

[tigerballs]

https://youtu.be/PFhQsgNdOFE

Not sure if it’s deemed relevant for this thread but I will share it as I have before.

If you skip to the 1 hour and 3 minute mark of this video, labelled balls deep (in depth dive into rugby league stats over the last few years) you’ll find the info there pretty interesting.

If you can’t be bothered to watch basically to cut a long story short it’s about roster management. Split into 2 groups, teams that make 5 or less changes to the top 20 and teams that make 6 or more. In the last decade, out of teams that have made 5 or less each year, only 12 haven’t made the top 8. Compare the 2 best teams of the decade (storm and roosters), Storm haven’t made 6 roster changes for the whole decade and the roosters have twice and in those years they finished 15th and 13th or whatever they did in those 2 down years. Compared to a team like us, knights and the Titans (top 3 worst teams of the decade) we have made 6 or more changes 7 times with the best finish of those years being 10th and in the 3 years we haven’t we’ve finished 5th,9th, and 9th. Good listen that I encourage anyone to hear.

Point I’m making is I hope we do clear out some deadwood at seasons end but maybe it is beneficial to stick strong in the long run


Chicken or egg?

Did those teams make the 8 because they didnt make many changes, or did they not need to make many changes because they had a top 8 quality team?

Exactly right.

Not exactly, no.

What it indicates most is that those teams understand the dark arts of roster management. The key components. Recruitment, development retention, rotation and rebuilding.
Melbourne have been in 4 rebuilds since they started, And about 3 in the time under Bellamy. But you wouldn’t know about it.

That is the point they are trying to make.
That continuity is the key but the key is knowing which components need tweaking what is the expiration date of players and how they can be replaced whilst winning.
Roosters have been through the same process however, under robinsons rule they had a rebuild year. However since 2016 they’ve managed to rotate the roster, either or not by their choice. I honestly thought last year was going to be another 2016 for them but they still remained incredibly repetitive.

Doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me.

That's what I meant! I'm not saying it's easy to keep a strong roster but it's a lot easier if you've got a strong roster to start with. There aren't enough quality players available to swap out more than a couple of players at a time. Take SOO for example. NSW didn't make too many changes to the side that got beat last year and they didn't really pick too many debutants either but having Turbo and Latrell together with Teddy at the back made them unbeatable. They built on a very strong base though. Conversely, QLD were a bit short of their best due to injury and even though most had played SOO before, they were never really in it because they weren't that great a side to begin with.

Neither agree or disagree there. The NSW side this year was a lot closer to the Game 2 side of 2019 then the game 3 side of last year in my opinion.
More than ‘a couple of changes’ were made but most importantly players in form experiencing a winning feeling were picked. Really interesting how that team managed to play the same way a lot of the dominant teams have played this year despite the referees not getting involved much to effect the momentum of the game.
There was no evidence of the new rules contributing to that result but yet that game 1 score line makes you believe otherwise.
How did it come about in a game as tight as origin is supposed to be.
The only thing I can think of is the form and confidence of those key players must be that high that they were willing to take the risks that aren’t usually seen in origin. There was no second guessing in decision making and every movement or play was crisp and support was at an all time high.
NSW played the perfect game of the new style of play but yet not one of the new rule changes affected that result.

What it did prove is that if your cattle is way better than the other mob, all things being equal, you should win. That NSW backline is most likely the best backline ever seen in a rugby league team anywhere in the world, ever. Better than Lewis, Miles, Meninga etc. Having said that, TT, Latrell, Teddy, Addo-Carr and Cleary have all played SOO before, but this time they all had the opportunity to play together. One or two pieces has been missing in the past for a different result but put 'em all together and this is what you get.
My real point is, WT are only a couple of players short of a very good team. Two very good centres would make the world of difference.
Do you think the QLD SOO side is full of bums? The difference is NSW have the two best centres and fullback in the world against a second rower and an undersized, although willing, winger and a glorified winger at fullback.
WT would take any one of those QLD outside backs in a heartbeat but they still got beat by, what, 60 in two games?

 

[tigerballs]

Need to give Broncos some credit considering how bad they are going...
They said there would be some good news coming for the club in a few weeks and now they have added Ben Ikin, Picked up Capewell, Offloaded Lodge, Most likely offload TPJ to Roosters / Dogs and you can already see the joint turning around.

I surely cannot be the only one who is disheartened with the way our club is going as we have picked up nothing of substance. Our biggest excitement is waiting on the massive news on if we are taking up the club options for Joey and JTJ next year..
I don't want to hear that we need to remain patient anymore... We have waited for too long and we need something.. I sure hope Sheen can bring some attraction to the club because we are going to need it..

My rant over

Just wait until Harley Smith-Shields gets here.

Hastings
Brooks
Nofa
HSS
Gildart/Douehei
Maumolo
DL

Now we're talkin'

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Lodge to warriors is a weird one. They already have a heap of big, one dimensional forwards and he's just another one. He'll play alright but he's not exactly suited for the new style of footy

Although he had that brain explosion in the US, has since buckled down and gone on with redemption, he is one player from the games I’ve watched that had given 100 %.
He will be a good signing for the Warriors

 

[Tiger5150]

We were in the running for Capewell before he went to Penrith. Sadly another missed target.

Yes we were, another miss, but there were plenty on here who rated him as a plodder and nothing special

Oh my God, people here can make stuff up about nothing to stick the boot in. We were NEVER in the running for Capewell and Im glad we werent. Bog average player looking good in a good team.

I hope we never made him an offer. He seems like the kind of bloke who would take whatever he can get.