Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Demps]

People should listen to @GNR4LIFE more often. We were always a bottom 4 team this year and we needed a miracle to perform above that. The bookies had us dead last.

We also have injuries to a large number of players.

Next year is looking a little better but to improve a lot we needed to retain Luc and Tuilagi. Next year is not looking better so far.

We will improve though. I still don't see this as being anywhere near as bad as other years. We don't have top quality juniors to lose. We have already lost our quality edge backrow pairing. The only way to go from here is up.

No thanks.

 

[clontarfkid]

Laurie’s game v Warriors was better than Dufty’s yesterday believe it or not.

Dont waste a gram of oxygen on either of them.
Dufty is a proven shocker,wheras Laurie isnt fully proven at that level just yet..only needs a few more games to confirm the obvious.Plus his heart isnt in the joint
We also need better centres and wingers..Kenny and Nofa are both slow and lazy....Gildart looks like a fair reserve grader,JTJ washed up..Talua and AJ is all weve got ..both a little flawed but young.
But for mine,a decent no1 who can organise the defence,back up line breaks,and demostrate some leadership and is the very highest highest priority
Ive written Brooks off btw

 

[stryker 69]

Pascoe brought him in along with Roberts Madge wasn’t present when negotiations were happening same as when he went to training and Daine was there first day he didn’t even know who he was and why he was there Pascoe making those moves without his knowledge

Not defending Madge btw but Pascoe shouldn’t be doing these decisions

Where did you hear this?

 

[Batmans Parents]

Yes. A horrible losing culture that doesn’t change with coaches. Rotten administration.

Don’t bother with the clown. He thinks we have “many good players”.

 

[Glenji95]

Where did you hear this?

Very good friend of mine who’s got inside knowledge of the club he’s actually met Pascoe a few times (hates his guts btw) and his sources too all saw Pascoe talking with Tamou and Roberts without Madge’s knowledge Madge only found out after they signed but I think he knew Roberts a bit earlier as he was spotted in the cafe with him

 

[stryker 69]

Those who suggested the coach needed to put To'a in as a better option than Laurie have been silenced. A serious lack of options in all positions.

I was one.
We now have our answer.
He was shit.

 

[Needaname]

Pascoe brought him in along with Roberts Madge wasn’t present when negotiations were happening same as when he went to training and Daine was there first day he didn’t even know who he was and why he was there Pascoe making those moves without his knowledge

Not defending Madge btw but Pascoe shouldn’t be doing these decisions

You pulling our leg?

 

[Glenji95]

You pulling our leg?

Nah mate I wouldn’t pull your leg on this kind of stuff

 

[KH1988]

Penrith released Daine Laurie 3 months after we signed him. If Maguire couldn't recognise a player we had signed 3 months earlier things are worse than I thought

 

[Glenji95]

Penrith released Daine Laurie 3 months after we signed him. If Maguire couldn't recognise a player we had signed 3 months earlier things are worse than I thought

He knew we signed him but originally Daine wasn’t supposed to come until this year he was surprised when he saw him at the club training as he had no idea that they swapped him and Momo around early to get him last year perhaps I should have been more clear but Madge was shocked still when he was at training when he wasn’t expecting him until this year

 

[stryker 69]

Penrith released Daine Laurie 3 months after we signed him. If Maguire couldn't recognise a player we had signed 3 months earlier things are worse than I thought

Yeah I thought that was a pretty public negotiation

 

[Glenji95]

Yeah I thought that was a pretty public negotiation

Wasn’t supposed to come until this year we originally did sign him for this year not last year

 

[clontarfkid]

I was one.
We now have our answer.
He was shit.

Being handed the custodian role against a rampaging Sharks was a poisoned chalice to say the least...and regardless ,he wasnt great under the high ball.
..and btw...Laurie wld have been a disaster under those bombs that every other team can produce but apprently not WTs
But havent written him off at all...think we shld be considering him as a centre only..which we desperately need

 

[stryker 69]

He knew we signed him but originally Daine wasn’t supposed to come until this year he was surprised when he saw him at the club training as he had no idea that they swapped him and Momo around early to get him last year perhaps I should have been more clear but Madge was shocked still when he was at training when he wasn’t expecting him until this year

Well if fully accurate, that’s embarrassing and a terrible lack of corporate communication. Don’t they have meetings?

 

[KH1988]

Yeah I thought that was a pretty public negotiation

Yep - It was in the sport section for weeks we were negotiating a swap with Momers

 

[clontarfkid]

Yep - It was in the sport section for weeks we were negotiating a swap with Momers

Agree.Madge right on top of things as usual...and Sheens /Pascoe doing it by themselves
Little wonder were a mess

 

[balmain boy]

If only it was as just as simple as flicking the coach. Man for man our top 30 is the weakest in the competition and compared to some squads significantly. Our results reflect that and Who ever the next guy is, unless the club can recruit some talent into the FG squad any young players coming through will have no opportunity to transition to FG without getting slaughtered.
Newcastle Bulldogs St George Broncos all with coaches with a rep in their second year struggling for consistency because their squads lack the quality needed to match the better teams - and they all have more to select from than we do. The talent in the Broncos squad is mind blowing compared to ours.
The coach will be the fall guy, but the real problem remains and is a far bigger problem to resolve.

Our squad is very weak, but we should still be doing better and should have won half our matches so far.

If most of our players are playing at 80-90% of their best week in week out we'd win 7-8 games a season. The problem is our players are currently playing at 30-40% of their actual abilities, and you won't win a game while playing that poorly. It's absolutely apparent that Madge cannot bring the best, or even half of the best out of our players. And therefore a caretaker coach should be installed ASAP until the end of the season. If that person does wellWith a decision on the 2023 coach to be made at a later date.

I'm happy if Cayless takes over for the rest of the season, he's been around the NRL for a long time and been an assistant for a while. With Sheens to help oversee things and input from Gardiner and co too. Or if Morris is happy to take up the option of half a season with us, and the opportunity to showcase what he can do (and if he does well get to the front of the line for 2023) then i'd be happy with that too.

 

[Fainu Brothers]

Talent lost under Madge’s watch:
Ryan Matterson - not everyone’s cup of tea. But the one and only year he was here nearly made the 8 and he had his best season in NRL.

Luciano Leilua - arguably our best forward. Reckons he loves Madge and one of the few players who has improved. Massive offer from Cowboys but why wasn’t he locked away on a better deal earlier.

Kelma Tuilagi - Killed it in NSW cup last year and was only given a 1 year extension for 22. Manly swooped. If you watched cup games last year he was scoring a lot tries and a handful for opposition teams. Not sure why he wasn’t offered minimum 2 year deal.

Benji Marshall - Moved on from the club. Again we didn’t improve at all. If anything went backwards.

Josh Mow my lawn Aloai - he was a tough player, had an error in him but offers a lot more than what we have currently.

Not sure what we can do to turn this around. This ship has sunk to new lows.

 

[Telltails]

Our squad is very weak, but we should still be doing better and should have won half our matches so far.

If most of our players are playing at 80-90% of their best week in week out we'd win 7-8 games a season. The problem is our players are currently playing at 30-40% of their actual abilities, and you won't win a game while playing that poorly. It's absolutely apparent that Madge cannot bring the best, or even half of the best out of our players. And therefore a caretaker coach should be installed ASAP until the end of the season. If that person does wellWith a decision on the 2023 coach to be made at a later date.

I'm happy if Cayless takes over for the rest of the season, he's been around the NRL for a long time and been an assistant for a while. With Sheens to help oversee things and input from Gardiner and co too. Or if Morris is happy to take up the option of half a season with us, and the opportunity to showcase what he can do (and if he does well get to the front of the line for 2023) then i'd be happy with that too.

Wouldn't matter who the coach is if we have a team that as you suggest are playing 30%,- 40% of their ability. If that doesn't emphasise why good players don't want a bar of us I don't know what does.

 

[balmain boy]

We are going to be in a world of pain for the rest of this season and next , if we dont sign some good solid players over the next month we won’t get any , my reasons
1) we are running last , no one wants to go to last placed team
2) most of our squad is week so new player has all the pressure on him
3) our second grade team are also week , no real guns coming up as we would use them now
4) players who are or may be leaving , Kel , Lucy , Garner , Tamou , Brooks ? , Roberts , Simpkin , Lids , Madden , that’s approx 9 and we can’t sign any , got 2 coming that leaves 7 more , good luck I say

The Dogs were coming last last season and simply offering cash got them a number of big name players.

Whether it ultimately helps them or not is another question, but at least they were able to approach and sign players they wanted.