Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

If you only take into account our position on the table, we may have been better in the short term but he was a major part of the long term pain to follow. His, and the club's letting him, over-spending put us in financial difficulties and the long years of suffering that have followed. Sheens was directly resonsible for the stupid decisions that followed but he played a huge part in the initial stuff ups.

I wish I had your blind faith but God is not real, neither is the messiah Sheens. He was a bad boy and may still be so.
I don't get this hate for Sheens. He presided over the only decent era of WT footy. We were crap before he came and crap after he left. When he was here we won the comp, probably should have won it twice!
 
I don't get this hate for Sheens. He presided over the only decent era of WT footy. We were crap before he came and crap after he left. When he was here we won the comp, probably should have won it twice!
I don’t have any hate for Sheens, but I do remember the state we were in after he left, the back ended contracts, the poor recruitment/retention decisions, and at the end of the day 3 finals series in 10 years.

In hindsight 3 finals in 10 years is better than we’ve had since, but I can’t help but wonder if that’s part of the problem. You’ll never hit the stars if you don’t shoot for them.

Let’s hope he and the club have learned something since last time and we don’t end up regretting the decision to go back to the future.
 
I thought you were saying that it was Cleary
Nah…just saying the issue exists…not pointing fingers.

Looks like we are pushing for a reduced contract and with the long serving player allowance, it will be minimal impact on the cap.

If he stays, at least it’s on minimal coin. If he goes, I’m ok with that too.
 
One thing to note is we have stopped the back-ended contracts that got us into cap trouble all those years ago.

Yes…we have made dud purchases, but they haven’t been compounded by big yearly salary increases.

Overall, I think the club is more astute in managing the cap. Player selection has been the issue of late…

Cleary picked 4 duds on big salaries which killed us for 3-4 years. Add Brooks who is being paid well above his worth and you have the 2022 Wests Tigers in a nutshell.

Finally, we are 1 year away from clearing the mess that was created by Ivan (mainly the Brooks contract) and we have some decent money to hit the market with.

Api and Papi are good value signings for what they will bring. The club did exceptionally well there.

I can’t believe the death riding that is going on!
11 failed years and people expect more failure from the same leaders. Go figure !
 
Need to offer overs for both Leniu and Martin. Staines I am neither here nosmall forwards that r there.

If Penrith are baulking at 550k for Martin, we need to come in 20-25% more at about $750-800k for him to consider us. (He is not coming for slightly more people)

Lenui
Korisau
Stefano
Papaali
Blore
Martin

Actually looks like a half decent pack.
Don't think Martin is the rite fit,good player that he is
We need size and power..like he currently has at Panthers who do all the heavy lifting
We've got almost a whole team of smaller forwards,particularly young blokes coming thru
 
Taylor was the handbrake on the "big 4" signing contracts. The club continued to back him and of course those players were going to attract interest from other clubs they were the talk of the town. Moses may have wanted out anyway but given the state of the club at the time and since hard to argue that it wasn't the right decision for his career. If we are still filthy at him for the joke we were and some say still are we havnt learned anything.
He can never be forgiven for that match he threw against the Bunnies before he was let go.

I have never before or since believed a player was legitimately trying to lose a football game for the Tigers, even if they were lazy or stupid or ineffective, I never had another occasion to believe they were intentionally losing.

Moses threw that match 100%, never to be forgiven, I don't care where the club was at or the question marks over the coach.
 
I don't begrudge any player for leaving I blame the club for poor management. Yes the club turned their finances around but football management has been disgusting and negligent since sheens left.
Who do you support man? I begrudge all of them.

If the good players never stay at the lower / struggling sides, then the comp never changes and half the fans never get a chance to support a winner.
 
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