Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

batboy said:
You really believe that shit?

You reckon he went past all the Roosters training gear in his closet
(That he's been wearing every day for the last 4 years)

To find a Souths kit - that he hasn't used for 4 years.
Assuming of course, That he actually kept it (Which most players don't)
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It’s all rumour so I was reluctant to discuss. However if you’ve seen permanent psychosis affects of drug use and adding to the affects of ongoing head knocks from NRL then I guess anything’s possible? I certainly wouldn’t be surprised. Of course it could be completely made up. I hope it’s not that bad for his sake.
 
teddy23 said:
Hahaha no I’m not saying I believe that bit just stating that’s what is being said

However - from a very close source I do know the topic and the situation itself is real idk the specifics nor do I want to know tbh

Very sad situation all around and hope he can find himself again

We were targeting him pretty heavily as well so kinda glad we avoided that
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If the gist of what is being posted here about Chrichton is correct I'm very concerned and would be deeply saddened should things turn out badly for him.

I posted previously that it would be pretty unlikely the sole reason for his leave was "having been diagnosed as bipolar". I can't say about the concussion causation, but it's not something that just happens, e.g., you get a check up and your doctor says you have a terminal illness.

Type 1 bipolar would be the only classification that I'd think would be debilitating to the extent he never plays again. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is possible to suddenly be affected by.

It sounds to me like he has probably always been type 2 bp or Cylclothymia, but just never realised it; It's impossible to know if your highs are any higher than anyone else's, lows likewise because it's always just been how you are.

*come to think of it, isn't Andrew Johns bipolar? Will check... Seems to ring a bell.

Yep:
www.foxsports.com.au

Andrew Johns speaks openly about his struggles and diagnosis with bipolar disorder

‘I was out of control, my life was chaos’: The cry for help that led to Joey’s bipolar diagnosis
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

Where this does come into effect, *I think*, is his not knowing he was predisposed to extremely adverse effects of certain drugs most others aren't.

Some people can smoke weed their whole lives and be fine. A small percentage could do it a bit and it can mess them up.

He's a young guy who may or may not have taken something everyone else was taking no worries, but it's fkd with his mind.

Whether bipolar or CTE (concussions) is a catalyst, who knows? Either way I doubt it would help.

This truly saddens me and I really hope he is okay. I'm sure he is getting the best care possible, but the thing is broken bones mend; the mind is far more precious and infinitely less understood.
 
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Hbom said:
Surely if the tanker wants 5 years, and parra won't provide, he will be on the phone to us.
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I know people don't like this deadline stuff BUT clearly, we are just there as a backup otherwise he would have signed with us. I hate to say it, but I would give a deadline.
Sorry it's like buying a house where you commit to buy it but ask if they can hold off on the paperwork so you can look around for a better one. If you pull the offer and he comes back later, you might get it cheaper if other options have dried up like Eels etc..
 
Tiger-ferret said:
Wouldnt it just become a medical retirement?
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Could get into a whole new area of litigation/causation...

I'm not sure, but think a medical retirement would have to be proven to be due to the effects of the game/his profession.

The murky water could come from intangibles, or chicken and egg. For argument's sake, let's call the Roosters the defence...

Defence: Chrichton has succumbed to debilitating mental health issues due to countless head knocks during his career (CTE)

Prosecution: it's been publicly stated by his own father the reason for his leave is bipolar disorder. You have to provide proof his situation has been caused by head knocks or other by-products of rugby league, and solely by rugby league.

A pre-existing disorder, diagnosed or not, can likely not be considered in this case as I can't see the nrl having any means of insurance against what could be considered an undisclosed, heightened susceptibility to mental health issues.

Furthermore, if it is actually proven that he took an illicit substance and suffered extreme effects, the nrl is in no way responsible and couldn't justify a medical retirement.

Not trying to be cynical, but this is the Roosters, and in this day and age where large entities can't afford to "offend" anyone and image is so important, I wouldn't be surprised if (should Chrichton need it) the nrl was advised to approve the medical retirement to show they take mental health seriously.

Would be a seriously low act if this was used as a get out for them to save cap money.
 
TurnStyle said:
Could get into a whole new area of litigation/causation...

I'm not sure, but think a medical retirement would have to be proven to be due to the effects of the game/his profession.

The murky water could come from intangibles, or chicken and egg. For argument's sake, let's call the Roosters the defence...

Defence: Chrichton has succumbed to debilitating mental health issues due to countless head knocks during his career (CTE)

Prosecution: it's been publicly stated by his own father the reason for his leave is bipolar disorder. You have to provide proof his situation has been caused by head knocks or other by-products of rugby league, and solely by rugby league.

A pre-existing disorder, diagnosed or not, can likely not be considered in this case as I can't see the nrl having any means of insurance against what could be considered an undisclosed, heightened susceptibility to mental health issues.

Furthermore, if it is actually proven that he took an illicit substance and suffered extreme effects, the nrl is in no way responsible and couldn't justify a medical retirement.

Not trying to be cynical, but this is the Roosters, and in this day and age where large entities can't afford to "offend" anyone and image is so important, I wouldn't be surprised if (should Chrichton need it) the nrl was advised to approve the medical retirement to show they take mental health seriously.

Would be a seriously low act if this was used as a get out for them to save cap money.
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The only way they could prove that would result in the NRL becoming the NFL.

Which, if the AFL class action gets any traction, could also see the end of most physical contact in the NRL. It surprises me there isn't more talk about this given the potential repercussions for rugby league
 
hsvjones said:
I know people don't like this deadline stuff BUT clearly, we are just there as a backup otherwise he would have signed with us. I hate to say it, but I would give a deadline.
Sorry it's like buying a house where you commit to buy it but ask if they can hold off on the paperwork so you can look around for a better one. If you pull the offer and he comes back later, you might get it cheaper if other options have dried up like Eels etc..
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I prefer not having an answer. The speculation will totally derail parras season not ours.
 
Bob said:
I prefer not having an answer. The speculation will totally derail parras season not ours.
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Agreed,the longer it takes the more the poison will spread at Pawwa.Hopefully he is as big a prima donna as i believe he is and he destroys their season and then signs a 4 year contract with the idiots there
 
balmain boy said:
The only way they could prove that would result in the NRL becoming the NFL.

Which, if the AFL class action gets any traction, could also see the end of most physical contact in the NRL. It surprises me there isn't more talk about this given the potential repercussions for rugby league
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I haven't heard about it. I do tend to be 'league myopic' though!

It's hard to describe to a woman (or guy who just doesn't get it I guess?), but I think there is a somewhat primal instinct that makes running as hard as you can into some huge dude as he does his best to put a good hit on you just so fun!

Then you get to try to tackle someone as hard as you can! What's not to love about that?!

*okay, so I was never the huge dude, and I'm 50 and tomorrow is my anniversary; Of my total hip replacement!
...probably wasn't the wisest decision in hindsight! 🤣

Apologies for blabbing, but I have similar conversations about mma and boxing.

My point is, no one is holding a gun to players' heads. It may be muddied by young kids' glamourised dreams of growing up and playing nrl/w, but I think as long as people know there are risks, are adults and have no cognitive deficiencies (yet?!), they should be able to do what they want.

Parents letting their kids play could be an issue though - especially at ages where there can be big size differences (I've seen young girls just terrorise boys the same age!).

I don't know where the nrl or afl are heading in this area (pardon the pun!), but very physical, and even violent, sport has been around for centuries, and using the ufc as an example, are extremely popular and profitable. You only need to go back to Zuffa selling the ufc a few years back for 4 billion dollars.

Rugby league is a tough sport. It's a huge reason people both play and watch.

But no one wants people's lives destroyed by it. It's pretty heartbreaking seeing Mario Fenech, Ian Roberts. Things are immeasurably better handled these days (I was once knocked out during a game and allowed to drive myself home despite forgetting my own name and knowing I lived with my mate "somewhere that way". Scary.).

It's interesting to see where things go. There are plenty of points for and against.

Hopefully things work out and are decided by open minded people who can listen and genuinely consider views different to their own.
 
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Odessa said:
Why have a salary cap ? If you have third party deals, doesn't that make a mockery of the cap ?

About time they publish the salaries with TPA's at least that way you know when a 15 million dollar team spanks a 11 million dollar team it's not a big deal

It's a bit like a middle of the road first grade team winning the reserve grade premiership who would care
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What about boots and clothing sponsors? they are 3rd party deals....what about drinks deals, watches, cars, Lowes...all 3rd party deals.

How can you stop someone from receiving sponsorship if a company is willing to pay?
 
The-moP said:
that is 100% correct .. he's brain is a little fried .. i think they call it cooked .. so i believe the NRL should not compensate the Rorters a single cent .. a bad result for Crichton for making a stupid choice .. !!
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I can confirm that story , from a current NRL player , him and another player went overseas
 
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Yeah I heard ecstasy not shrooms. Funnily enough I saw him walking down the street before all this news broke and thought he looked off with the fairies and wondered why.
 
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