carltonleach
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Anyone watch young latu today?
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Mate it just means the guy who steers the ship, tells forward where to go and be. Kicks mostly and especially on the 5th but with no weight to his persona!Unless you actually know what the plans & strategy are- how do you know the 7 is implementing them?
Most coaches talk about the voice of the fullback leading & organising.
I'm going to assume that 'good organisational halfbacks' in the NRL are players like Cleary, Reynolds, Moses, Hunt etc.
Bad organisational halfbacks are players like Brooks, Sullivan or anyone else the Tigers are linked with.
I'd bet Chad Townsend is considered an 'organising halfback'.
These virtual assistant coaches, implementing the coaches gameplan, move for move....aren't they just the guys that also do the kicking? Looks to me that to be an 'organising halfback' what you really need to be is....a good field kicker. Can't we just say the Tigers need a half (7 or 6) that can kick the opposition into corners & strangle the game out of them? Why is Sezar an 'organising half' but not Fainu? Fainu, at the levels he plays, kicks.
Are we suggesting that Munster, Walker, Foran etc don't organise anything & simply run & pass with magic in their hands?
Or are they running at pre-destined positions, on specific tackles, targeting specific players while ALSO passing, running etc?
Everyone is caught up on the #7 being an extra assistant coach. These guys are really 1 of 4 organisational options in a team. Jerome Hughes is a running halfback. Cameron Smith ran the Storm from dummy half. I'd hazard a guess that Harry Grant does most of it alongside Munster now.
What we need are smart players that can implement a gameplan & bring the other meat heads into the action. Brooks is a below average kicker. He's inconsistent. That's his downfall. That's what puts him in the 'running half' group instead of the illustrious '#7' club.
If Munster was the Tigers 6, we'd all be calling him our play caller, or leader etc. And he would be. Because that's what he does. It wouldn't matter one spit if he wore 6, 7 or 1.
Tigers need consistency in the halves, a kicking game & guys that can introduce the meat axe's out wide to gaps instead of defenders shoulders. I don't care if we put #13 on the back. That is what we miss. We do not have THAT guy in the club, playing 1st grade, right now.
At his playing level, Fainu is THAT guy. Just like he will be, hopefully, for the Tigers. With a 'running 7' beside him to the horror of those that believe #7 is akin to a rugby league chess master with an assistant coach badge under his jumper.
Watched highlights and he had 2 tries and solid in defence.Anyone watch young latu today?
1st try ,set before -forward,next 2 scored of forward pass-happy days when that luck runs our wayAm I that one eyed.
I thought that pass Wighton threw was well and truly forward and the guy that batted it on knocked it on, because if it was,
We might be getting our third or fourth apology this season from Annessly,
( wrongly spelt I think. )
I thought the linesman who was looking straight at both things might have at least seen one of them.
But why worry, its only West Tigers.
If I am wrong with what I saw, that gave them 6 points & we lost by 4 points please let me know your thoughts.
Not wrong in that being forward but Brooks was off side in his try so if we complain about the bad calls against we have to be honest about the ones that go our way.Am I that one eyed.
I thought that pass Wighton threw was well and truly forward and the guy that batted it on knocked it on, because if it was,
We might be getting our third or fourth apology this season from Annessly,
( wrongly spelt I think. )
I thought the linesman who was looking straight at both things might have at least seen one of them.
But why worry, its only West Tigers.
If I am wrong with what I saw, that gave them 6 points & we lost by 4 points please let me know your thoughts.
Ahh legend, do u know if they have the full game highlights on the nrl app throughout the week?Watched highlights and he had 2 tries and solid in defence.
I was just saying in the Fainu thread that Manly are going to regret letting these guys go.
Guess that’s why the forward passes weren’t called too right. Some see it that way and some don’t.Speculation at best
There's no no angle shown that showed that clearly....
Not sure mate but if so, it would be good to watch.Ahh legend, do u know if they have the full game highlights on the nrl app throughout the week?
I think there is far more to being an organising half than just being the field kicker.Unless you actually know what the plans & strategy are- how do you know the 7 is implementing them?
Most coaches talk about the voice of the fullback leading & organising.
I'm going to assume that 'good organisational halfbacks' in the NRL are players like Cleary, Reynolds, Moses, Hunt etc.
Bad organisational halfbacks are players like Brooks, Sullivan or anyone else the Tigers are linked with.
I'd bet Chad Townsend is considered an 'organising halfback'.
These virtual assistant coaches, implementing the coaches gameplan, move for move....aren't they just the guys that also do the kicking? Looks to me that to be an 'organising halfback' what you really need to be is....a good field kicker. Can't we just say the Tigers need a half (7 or 6) that can kick the opposition into corners & strangle the game out of them? Why is Sezar an 'organising half' but not Fainu? Fainu, at the levels he plays, kicks.
Are we suggesting that Munster, Walker, Foran etc don't organise anything & simply run & pass with magic in their hands?
Or are they running at pre-destined positions, on specific tackles, targeting specific players while ALSO passing, running etc?
Everyone is caught up on the #7 being an extra assistant coach. These guys are really 1 of 4 organisational options in a team. Jerome Hughes is a running halfback. Cameron Smith ran the Storm from dummy half. I'd hazard a guess that Harry Grant does most of it alongside Munster now.
What we need are smart players that can implement a gameplan & bring the other meat heads into the action. Brooks is a below average kicker. He's inconsistent. That's his downfall. That's what puts him in the 'running half' group instead of the illustrious '#7' club.
If Munster was the Tigers 6, we'd all be calling him our play caller, or leader etc. And he would be. Because that's what he does. It wouldn't matter one spit if he wore 6, 7 or 1.
Tigers need consistency in the halves, a kicking game & guys that can introduce the meat axe's out wide to gaps instead of defenders shoulders. I don't care if we put #13 on the back. That is what we miss. We do not have THAT guy in the club, playing 1st grade, right now.
At his playing level, Fainu is THAT guy. Just like he will be, hopefully, for the Tigers. With a 'running 7' beside him to the horror of those that believe #7 is akin to a rugby league chess master with an assistant coach badge under his jumper.
Be happy to give our 1 back if we could get the three back.Guess that’s why the forward passes weren’t called too right. Some see it that way and some don’t.
Bloody oath brother if I find it I’ll let uknowNot sure mate but if so, it would be good to watch.
One other thing on todays game, NOFO I am a fan of his, but when he took that intercept today,
the instant he took it, I thought he would run the length of the field to score, but by halfway about 4 or 5 players managed to round him up, cannot beleive how fast he isnt anymore.
Yep it was pretty good, but where has his pace gone, he is not big enough to play any position other than wing but with no speed,That pass tho. Ow my.
No issues with this in every club.I Respect this,
The Dogs are weeding out players that are not Hard Trainers. That's how you build a culture of excellence.
There wasn’t 3.Be happy to give our 1 back if we could get the three back.
One other thing on todays game, NOFO I am a fan of his, but when he took that intercept today,
the instant he took it, I thought he would run the length of the field to score, but by halfway about 4 or 5 players managed to round him up, cannot beleive how fast he isnt anymore.
Sadly Nofa has lost both acceleration and top end speedHe’s never been rapid but he has lost a lot of the pace he once had off the back of that. They rounded him up like it was nothing, he all round game not just his pace seems to have nose dived. It was a nice pass though I’ll give him that.