Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[lathami]

I love the “Roosters buy premierships” line….

They run out less ‘bought’ players than we did on the weekend…
Some of their best players have come through the grades there - our best players we bought in from somewhere else… they target spend, we spend for the sake of spending and make it look like we’re doing something…

What a load of crap their best players are all bought. Their halves, chrighton, JWH, smith, pommie winger, may, turdesco, etc, etc. yes they do it better than us but don’t tell me they’re home grown, please!
Even their ‘juniors’ are kids they pay off early at footy carnivals. They have no juniors.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What a load of crap their best players are all bought. Their halves, chrighton, JWH, smith, pommie winger, may, turdesco, etc, etc. yes they do it better than us but don’t tell me they’re home grown, please!
Even their ‘juniors’ are kids they pay off early at footy carnivals. They have no juniors.

JWH? 15 years ago? 😅

 

[Tom Shines]

What a load of crap their best players are all bought. Their halves, chrighton, JWH, smith, pommie winger, may, turdesco, etc, etc. yes they do it better than us but don’t tell me they’re home grown, please!
Even their ‘juniors’ are kids they pay off early at footy carnivals. They have no juniors.

They make much better decisions than us… The Tigers pay aging players Klemmer and Bateman $1.5m a year between them … probably more than what they pay Crighton and JWH…

it’s no point crying about them being smarter … this difference in the two sides we saw last night is a result of years of incompetence from the Tigers .., and it will take years to correct it ..

 

[Tucker]

how do you feel about them paying Klemmer $800k a year for 4 years ?

If that’s accurate, it’s disastrous.

 

[Tom Shines]

If that’s accurate, it’s disastrous.

sheens/pascoe special … two of the truly great minds at work

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Penrith seem very quiet that they are losing genuine stars every year whilst the Roosters are clearly cheating.

I'll put it in simple terms. Over the past 5 years, the value of the Panthers squad has increased significantly, so they've to shed players to stay within the cap. At the end of 2019, they moved on two of their highest paid players in RCG and Maloney to upgrade others. And each year since, as they've upgraded Edwards, Luai, Yep, Leota, To'o etc from modest contracts, they've offloaded established players and recruited middle of the road guys like Sorensen, Eissenhuth and Garner to fill their squad.

The Roosters, on the other hand, almost never lose players of the calibre of Kikau, Koroisau, Luai or Crichton due to cap pressure. RTS, Mitchell, Manu and Suaalii all left/are leaving for personal reasons. Far from losing players to manage the cap, the Roosters recruit established stars like Cronk, Tedesco, Crichton, Smith and Leinu.

 

[Tom Shines]

I'll put it in simple terms. Over the past 5 years, the value of the Panthers squad has increased significantly, so they've to shed players to stay within the cap. At the end of 2019, they moved on two of their highest paid players in RCG and Maloney to upgrade others. And each year since, as they've upgraded Edwards, Luai, Yep, Leota, To'o etc from modest contracts, they've offloaded established players and recruited middle of the road guys like Sorensen, Eissenhuth and Garner to fill their squad.

The Roosters, on the other hand, almost never lose players of the calibre of Kikau, Koroisau, Luai or Crichton due to cap pressure. RTS, Mitchell, Manu and Suaalii all left/are leaving for personal reasons. Far from losing players to manage the cap, the Roosters recruit established stars like Cronk, Tedesco, Crichton, Smith and Leinu.

so are they cheating then or not? You see to be implying they are …And the rest of the teams like their bitter rivals Souths just cop it sweet ?

 

[bptiger 0]

so are they cheating then or not? You see to be implying they are …And the rest of the teams like their bitter rivals Souths just cop it sweet ?

I say they are rotting the system, and one day NIC will piss someone off and they will spill the beans , just like what happened with the storm

 

[Tom Shines]

I say they are rotting the system, and one day NIC will piss someone off and they will spill the beans , just like what happened with the storm

For all the wankery over the Roosters… they have won the comp three times in 22 years

they aren’t exactly Manchester City…

 

[Vicious]

Exactly..you pay a player out 400g and replace him with a 400g player and you have 800g comes off your cap. I guess if it is to create a roster spot to promote a kid on a low tier contract it might be a solution. Shopping the contracts is a way better solution even if you have to pay half the frieght

No that’s what everyone is missing.
Once you pay a player out it is only a portion that comes out of your cap, nowhere near the full amount.
Yes the club has to cons up with the money, but the cap space is nowhere near dollar for dollar.

 

[Buttface]

Nope.
I just steadfastly refuse to play the victim, nor buy into conspiracy theories of cheating.
Sulking about how another team forms their roster is the work of losers.

I totally agree with that attitude.
Don’t play victim, play better.
But you are sticking your head in the sand if you don’t think everyone is cheating the cap or at least trying to.
But there’s no point sooking about that either. Just get better at cheating the cap. Employ an analyst, a lawyer and an accountant as ground staff and start being the best cap cheaters in the league.
HashishTag, Win more games at any cost.

 

[Tucker]

The Roosters, on the other hand, almost never lose players of the calibre of Kikau, Koroisau, Luai or Crichton due to cap pressure. RTS, Mitchell, Manu and Suaalii all left/are leaving for personal reasons. Far from losing players to manage the cap, the Roosters recruit established stars like Cronk, Tedesco, Crichton, Smith and Leinu.

They are lost to the cap.
They have been paid far more money elsewhere and the Roosters had to let them walk.

 

[Tom Shines]

No that’s what everyone is missing.
Once you pay a player out it is only a portion that comes out of your cap, nowhere near the full amount.
Yes the club has to cons up with the money, but the cap space is nowhere near dollar for dollar.

Mate .. you keep saying this… but sounds dodgy as f…

When has this happened previously ?

 

[weststigerman]

No that’s what everyone is missing.
Once you pay a player out it is only a portion that comes out of your cap, nowhere near the full amount.
Yes the club has to cons up with the money, but the cap space is nowhere near dollar for dollar.

I'm with @supercoach on this one. I don't think this is true.

Our version of this was the Nofa situation where we chose to pay him out most of his salary upfront which was included in this years cap. Nofa had to agree to it as well.

 

[Vicious]

Mate .. you keep saying this… but sounds dodgy as f…

When has this happened previously ?

The Bulldogs over the last few seasons have offloaded plenty while still under contract, they are not paying the full salary cap wages for all those players I can assure you.

 

[Tom Shines]

I totally agree with that attitude.
Don’t play victim, play better.
But you are sticking your head in the sand if you don’t think everyone is cheating the cap or at least trying to.
But there’s no point sooking about that either. Just get better at cheating the cap. Employ an analyst, a lawyer and an accountant as ground staff and start being the best cap cheaters in the league

this is the point I think … they are either all doing it or they are playing by the rules … if only one was doing it ..the other 16 would be screaming blue murder about it ..

 

[Tucker]

this is the point I think … they are either all doing it or they are playing by the rules … if only one was doing it ..the other 16 would be screaming blue murder about it ..

Especially as it seems so obvious to Tigers supporters

 

[Tom Shines]

The Bulldogs over the last few seasons have offloaded plenty while still under contract, they are not paying the full salary cap wages for all those players I can assure you.

I would suggest you have no idea what was charged to their salary cap … and are just guessing

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

I say they are rotting the system, and one day NIC will piss someone off and they will spill the beans , just like what happened with the storm

If anyone spills the beans on the roosters, they better watch out, the Greek mafia will get them and their family….everyone knows it too

 

[Vicious]

I would suggest you have no idea what was charged to their salary cap … and are just guessing

I suggest you find the episode of 💯 Footy from early this season where Gould himself stated the Salary Cap rules have changed where you can now pay a player out who is under contract but no longer wanted by the club and only a portion of the payout comes off the clubs Salary Cap.