Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jrtiger]

Maybe its both Hetherington and Horsburgh, but one moving to the front row.

certainly wouldn't be against it, but we'd have to clear the decks and move some pretty tough contracts, Klemmer being one of them. Matamua I'd say would probably have to be sold as well.

I get the feeling it's likely one or the other.

 

[jrtiger]

I like the look of Hetherington. He’s well suited to the modern game and gives us something we don’t currently have - leg speed, line speed and attitude.

I'd say Hetherington would be my first pick if it wasn't for a pretty poor season this year at Brisbane.

that said, there's many a quality player there that are playing well below standard and are in need of change.

 

[jrtiger]

I hope Morgan Knowles was one Richo was talking to in the UK too but is an injury risk. At his best is better than those 3 IMO.

Another consideration is whether Benji sees Bird as a lock with Latu Fainu being transitioned into that role.

Knowles has dropped off these past few years imo. I think you're right, on his day he's a great player but I get the feeling Richardson doesn't want to mess around with players transitioning between leagues and acclimatising.

Bird I think will be Bateman's replacement, but that's just me. I understand the Latu school of thought but the bloke has made it thru 80 minutes once this season, and that was playing in the halves. he's 18 months away from moving to the middle at minimum, and that's only if Marshall sees a future for him there.

 

[mtd#2]

I think he’ll be disappointed at the state of our wrestling room. If we even have one

Arent our training facilities the best in the whole NRL?

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Its getting more realistic now .. Kobe Hetherington from the Donkeys his manager .. has said that he is free to talk to other teams and the WestsTigers are one they are talking with.

Don’t be surprised if Benji & Richo fly to Brisbane sometime and plan a contract for Kobe.

 

[liltiger]

And when ciraldo pushed hard the bulldogs were accused of bullying because a player couldn’t keep up…the players need to have the right psyche to achieve.

Never forget what Tallis said about the dogs player who filed the lawsuit. Agree 100 percent with it and it should be the mentality towards training. Tallis said its ok if rugby league isn't for you. Great response, if you can't keep up you can't keep your spot.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

We do have a wrestling room just at the moment its being utilized as a storage room for unsold merchandise.

 

[liltiger]

I hope Morgan Knowles was one Richo was talking to in the UK too but is an injury risk. At his best is better than those 3 IMO.

Another consideration is whether Benji sees Bird as a lock with Latu Fainu being transitioned into that role.

We are in a tricky spot with Latu atm. Think he is in a bit of a holding pattern atm. We can get him in as a fill in 9 or build him into a 13. Problem is if Galvin leaves he's our future 6. I'd be pushing to find out where Galvin is at, if it feels like he's just using us as a stepping stone then I would throw Latu in at 6 and let Galvin fill in at 9 or 13 till he leaves. Why should we potentially stunt Latus growth if Galvin is leaving.

 

[Tom Shines]

In due respect, we'll only have 3 players next season from our 2021 squad under Madge (Seyfarth, Twal & Doueihi) and I doubt they were the ones whinging.

Has the training changed though ?

You wouldn’t have though so considering how much they wilt at the back end of games …even the last two that they won …

 

[AdelaideTiger]

three 13s on the market, all with their respective pros and cons: Adam Elliott, Corey Horsburgh, Kobe Hetherington. I think it simply comes down to what WT want at 13. all three are players with different skillsets and at different points in their career.

Hetherington is the least developed of all three, but would come cheap and is unshakeable in defence. also has a great passing game given he was a 9 before he transitioned.

Elliott is in his peak years and is having a great season, but would be looking for a decent deal in what will likely be his last NRL deal and isn't as good defensively as the other two.

Horsburgh lacks the ballplaying skillset as a lock but is a rock defensively and can turn a game on it's head on either side of the ball.

interesting times ahead and very interested to see what we decide to do.

Think we have space for both Hetherington and Horsburgh if Bateman goes.
I don't think Elliot fits what we need regardless of player movement.

 

[boonboon]

We need a second rower if bateman goes at this stage even with those we have been talking too all we have at 2nd row for next year is Fainu, Seyfarth and Sukkar

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Has the training changed though ?

You wouldn’t have though so considering how much they wilt at the back end of games …even the last two that they won …

It will be interesting to see what changes take place in the footy dept over the next month especially if the S&C guys change. I am sure Richo, Benji & Betsey will have post-season reviews next week & tap some staff on the shoulder. Then we need the new staff in asap to plan for pre-season Nov-1.

 

[jrtiger]

We are in a tricky spot with Latu atm. Think he is in a bit of a holding pattern atm. We can get him in as a fill in 9 or build him into a 13. Problem is if Galvin leaves he's our future 6. I'd be pushing to find out where Galvin is at, if it feels like he's just using us as a stepping stone then I would throw Latu in at 6 and let Galvin fill in at 9 or 13 till he leaves. Why should we potentially stunt Latus growth if Galvin is leaving.

first thing that needs to be done with Latu is build his motor and strengthen his hamstrings. after that he needs to just put together 80 minute performances in Cup for the first few months of next year, then we can talk about a transition to the middle.

 

[weststigerman]

We are in a tricky spot with Latu atm. Think he is in a bit of a holding pattern atm. We can get him in as a fill in 9 or build him into a 13. Problem is if Galvin leaves he's our future 6. I'd be pushing to find out where Galvin is at, if it feels like he's just using us as a stepping stone then I would throw Latu in at 6 and let Galvin fill in at 9 or 13 till he leaves. Why should we potentially stunt Latus growth if Galvin is leaving.

It's not worth worrying about.

He's 19 and first drop behind Luai and Galvin. He'll get plenty of opportunities next year. Both Galvin and Latu a contracted for 2 and 3 years respectively and we can see how their bodies develop next year.

The Storm has 21yo star junior Pezet behind Hughes and Munster. Long term we need to find a position for them if they both stay but it's too early IMO.

 

[Tom Shines]

It will be interesting to see what changes take place in the footy dept over the next month especially if the S&C guys change. I am sure Richo, Benji & Betsey will have post-season reviews next week & tap some staff on the shoulder. Then we need the new staff in asap to plan for pre-season Nov-1.

As Richo often reminds us, this is not his first rodeo and he has overseen last to first revivals before ..hopefully he knows how to get us there next ..so I’m sure he has an idea on what kind of offseason training regime will be required to get it done.. I am expecting changes in the S & C this time around

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Arent our training facilities the best in the whole NRL?

When was the last time we dominated the ruck
If it’s there maybe they need to unlock the door

 

[Vicious]

three 13s on the market, all with their respective pros and cons: Adam Elliott, Corey Horsburgh, Kobe Hetherington. I think it simply comes down to what WT want at 13. all three are players with different skillsets and at different points in their career.

Hetherington is the least developed of all three, but would come cheap and is unshakeable in defence. also has a great passing game given he was a 9 before he transitioned.

Elliott is in his peak years and is having a great season, but would be looking for a decent deal in what will likely be his last NRL deal and isn't as good defensively as the other two.

Horsburgh lacks the ballplaying skillset as a lock but is a rock defensively and can turn a game on it's head on either side of the ball.

interesting times ahead and very interested to see what we decide to do.

Doesn’t Hethrington play front row?

Kobe is the younger of them and being a number 9 early in his career you would assume he could potentially play some 9 to give Api a break and potentially allow Latu Fainu to start as our 14 but come on and spend some time at 13.
I’m not so sure he would come cheap, my estimation says he’d be looking for around 400k if headiing to Sydney and be part of a team trying to rebuild.
The Titans also need a 13, so I’m thinking that’s where he ends up if leaving the Broncos.
Adam Elliott would bring toughness, hard running and decent ball playing ability, but at age 30 he could be on the decline, although he does keep himself in good physical condition.
Corey Horsburgh would be the bigger body with better go forward and would take pressure off our props in the yardage battle. He also has a good offload in his game, but lacks ball playing ability and his defensive line speed not as good at the other two.
I wouldn’t disregard Jack Williams either, he’s off contract, playing as well as ever and might want a regular starting spot at this stage of his career. The advantage with him is him being mobile enough to also play on an edge.

 

[jrtiger]

Kobe is the younger of them and being a number 9 early in his career you would assume he could potentially play some 9 to give Api a break and potentially allow Latu Fainu to start as our 14 but come on and spend some time at 13.
I’m not so sure he would come cheap, my estimation says he’d be looking for around 400k if headiing to Sydney and be part of a team trying to rebuild.
The Titans also need a 13, so I’m thinking that’s where he ends up if leaving the Broncos.
Adam Elliott would bring toughness, hard running and decent ball playing ability, but at age 30 he could be on the decline, although he does keep himself in good physical condition.
Corey Horsburgh would be the bigger body with better go forward and would take pressure off our props in the yardage battle. He also has a good offload in his game, but lacks ball playing ability and his defensive line speed not as good at the other two.
I wouldn’t disregard Jack Williams either, he’s off contract, playing as well as ever and might want a regular starting spot at this stage of his career. The advantage with him is him being mobile enough to also play on an edge.

good call on the Titans. with Liu and Clark leaving they'll definitely be in the mix and Hetherington is a player Hasler would love to coach. he'll certainly be difficult to prise away from Queensland and they may well be in the box seat. I think St George will have a seat at the negotiating table as well.

Horsburgh is probably my second pick if Hetherington isn't attainable. Williams will stay at Cronulla, especially with Hunt coming to us.

 

[Juice]

Judging from what the statement said Broncos are only going to let Hethrington go if they sign horsburgh?

 

[Tim Sheens]

Judging from what the statement said Broncos are only going to let Hethrington go if they sign horsburgh?

Cannot see that as being the case, as an ongoing relationship almost always becomes untenable once a club tells a player that they are free to negotiate elsewhere.