Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
Correct.
Local juniors need to be given a little bit more gratitude.
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Yep, right up to the point, when they demand to play a certain position or play reggies, or stand under the post with hands on hips watching others have a go.
Next Jr please.
 
weststigers said:
No...no it isn't. Just stating what is fact.

Players and coach are in early. It's not my opinion.

Unless I'm to assume Benji has gone away from family first in favour of team first?

Better yet, why don't you explain it. Then we'll all know.
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Try and keep up. I'm very specific about the words I use, so don't represent them with broad brush strokes.

I said this (your quote) -

Family first doesn't mean you don't turn up early or stay late. It just means setting some boundaries around it so it doesn't consume you and your family isn't always the last thought.

- was opinion. Not the fact 'players and coach are in early'.

In italics above is a subjective (your) opinion of what 'family first' means.

It can mean any number of things to different people, but it is more than simply arrival and departure times. And your subjective description of what that approach includes is the literal definition of the opposite of a fact.

Besides, what is the point of you arguing this point?

Don't love your family enough eh? Don't think they should come first? Don't think someone can do a great job whilst simultaneously prioritising their family?

Sounds a bit antiquated to me.

Also 'we'll all know...'

- mate, everyone else has moved on from that discussion. So don't try to subconsciously make your side of the argument out to be a large swathe of people eagerly awaiting my rebuttal, when, in reality, it's you who's sitting there aggressively pounding your keyboard because you're struggling to comprehend that different opinions exist in the world.

Don't bother replying, I believe the attacks on Benji's family priorities are ridiculous, you don't.

Let's move on.
 
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Benji is taking a modern approach to working and life which has helped him recruit players in this generation. He is acknowledging the multiple roles in modern life and the importance of balancing those roles. I don't think it's a hot take.

At the end of the day, what Benji believes about family or puts out in the press is really just noise and will have little to no bearing on actual results, for better or worse.
 
Kelce68 said:
Try and keep up. I'm very specific about the words I use, so don't represent them with broad brush strokes.

I said this (your quote) -

Family first doesn't mean you don't turn up early or stay late. It just means setting some boundaries around it so it doesn't consume you and your family isn't always the last thought.

- was opinion. Not the fact 'players and coach are in early'.

In italics above is a subjective (your) opinion of what 'family first' means.

It can mean any number of things to different people, but it is more than simply arrival and departure times. And your subjective description of what that approach includes is the literal definition of the opposite of a fact.

Besides, what is the point of you arguing this point?

Don't love your family enough eh? Don't think they should come first? Don't think someone can do a great job whilst simultaneously prioritising their family?

Sounds a bit antiquated to me.

Also 'we'll all know...'

- mate, everyone else has moved on from that discussion. So don't try to subconsciously make your side of the argument out to be a large swathe of people eagerly awaiting my rebuttal, when, in reality, it's you who's sitting there aggressively pounding your keyboard because you're struggling to comprehend that different opinions exist in the world.

Don't bother replying, I believe the attacks on Benji's family priorities are ridiculous, you don't.

Let's move on.
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Now I understand you. You haven't actually read my posts. I actually agree with YOU. I'm not arguing against you.

I couldn't work out what your problem was. Now I know.

I'm not against Benji and his mentality for the record. I just think he means balance in life and football, whereas others have taken it to mean all family and football is second. That's all.

He is on the record talking about that balance so I just take what he has said and repeated it. I can also see the actions of him and the team. If that makes it subjective, then you win. So be it.
 
Buttface said:
Speed helps that too.
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But speed isn't the be all and end all.

Take Klemmer, he is a big unit and actually can build some pace to him.
What he can't do is change direction as easily. He lacks the quick stepping of say Samuela Fainu.

Big guys can run, small guys run around them.
 
tigertragic said:
Did Weekes catch him, thought he gave up. Not saying douhi is faster.
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What happened in a one off event is largely irrelevant. Too many variables. Maybe Weekes felt a twinge and felt it wasn't worth it.

In the same way you can't judge Toa's talents from that one game v the cowboys. You judge a player's ability on the accumulation of their performances. That provides a meaningful sample size to remove any outliers.

Doueihi has proven many times that he's injury prone, very slow, lazy and lacks agility and acceleration. Toa has proven many times that he's highly injury prone, a lazy defender and lazy in attack.
 
I don't really give a rats about Benji's family first approach, i think its obvious that almost everyone in the entire world puts family first majority of the time.
I don't really see the need to constantly emphasize something so apparent, I will say though taking a holiday to Fiji mid season when your coming last isn't family first its taking the piss.
Think Benji has a lot to get up to speed with and this year is sink or swim imo, so less talking about the same dribble and more doing would be my 2 cents.
 
AmericanHistoryX said:
We can piss on Douhei as much as we want. The thing is he bleeds for the club. Doesn't mean he can't be traded. Doesn't mean he is the best of smartest. Just - he's with us. If we could put his brain in Batemams body. Or any other body. The will to win.
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I know one way we can put Doueihi’s brain in Batemans body… Result, a 3.5m tall, 192kg behemoth that crushes anyone in its path. We can call it DouBat.
 
Kelce68 said:
Try and keep up. I'm very specific about the words I use, so don't represent them with broad brush strokes.

I said this (your quote) -

Family first doesn't mean you don't turn up early or stay late. It just means setting some boundaries around it so it doesn't consume you and your family isn't always the last thought.

- was opinion. Not the fact 'players and coach are in early'.

In italics above is a subjective (your) opinion of what 'family first' means.

It can mean any number of things to different people, but it is more than simply arrival and departure times. And your subjective description of what that approach includes is the literal definition of the opposite of a fact.

Besides, what is the point of you arguing this point?

Don't love your family enough eh? Don't think they should come first? Don't think someone can do a great job whilst simultaneously prioritising their family?

Sounds a bit antiquated to me.

Also 'we'll all know...'

- mate, everyone else has moved on from that discussion. So don't try to subconsciously make your side of the argument out to be a large swathe of people eagerly awaiting my rebuttal, when, in reality, it's you who's sitting there aggressively pounding your keyboard because you're struggling to comprehend that different opinions exist in the world.

Don't bother replying, I believe the attacks on Benji's family priorities are ridiculous, you don't.

Let's move on.
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lol it can literally mean instead of watching the 100th video of turbo hitting a hole close to the line , he’s in his sons bedrooom reading him a bedtime story . Or sitting in on the 3rd marketing strategy meeting for the week , or going to see his something on at his son’s school .
It’s that simple , and honestly he’s just articulated probably what everyone does all the time .
Lack of effort will not be Benjis downfall . It will 💯 come down to whether he can interpret the ways in which the team needs to improve , and then more importantly imprint that gameplan into the players brains .
It will have nothing to do with hours worked .
 
cochise said:
I think his will to win is overblown and he infact has a very poor attitude.
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It’s a will to win … if winning is he puts in the plays , and doesn’t have to do the dirty work .
People with a real will to win , playing right now ? cotter , Watson , even Api. Diving head first into spots where most people wouldn’t put their feet . Chasing down line breaks , when they just got off making the tackle just before on the other side of the field . Needing an oxygen mask , because they played when they had a flu and their body almost shut down on them .
That’s a will to win .
Talking shit and abusing your team mates , doesn’t mean anything .
 
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