Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

coivtny said:
I can remember Canterbury fans from the old days i.e 60s and 70s. They were good people like fans of Wests, Balmain and Newtown at the same time. The demographic changes to that whole area out to Bankstown and beyond have led to the current situation where some of their fans behave atrociously. I have mates from the old days who only follow them on TV now because they feel uncomfortable at games.
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A guy I know was at the Canberra game this year when the Canberra fans got abused it was horrendous he said

He's a Roosters guy and won't wear a jersey at the Canterbury games
 
Nonotmeagain said:
They don't register it - simple - and you have to be registered to play. They are allowed to determine who plays in their competition and under what rules. They are not restraining his trade as there are other avenues to allow him to earn a living playing football ( Super League for instance) they are enforcing the rules of THEIR competition. Similar to the rules they enforce on how old you can be, who can play SoO, what the conditions are to represent a country etc.
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Then by that theory they could reimplement a draft. Terry Hill won the supreme court case for a restraint of trade, but perhaps if we revisit it the N.R.L could argue the players not willing to participate could ply their trade overseas.
 
weststigers said:
Imagine if you started a company and a court told you that you must hire people coming out of prison because they used to do the same thing your new company does?

The NRL is a private organisation. They do not have to register every contract just because it falls under the cap. They can reject anyone on any basis provided it's not based on unjust discriminatory grounds such as those protected in Australia (race etc.).

For example, they wouldn't register Folau for a simple insta post...different, but he also didn't go to prison either.
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But the company or employer in this instance would be Wests Tigers. If the N.R.L refused to register the contract as he was in prison, just wonder if he would have a legal avenue to challenge it. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't try to sign him, just curious how he could attempt it.
 
weststigers said:
The players have a duty to not bring the game into disrepute.

The fans have no such contract.

Seems unfair, but you really want the NRL to start controlling what fans can and can't say and do at games?
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They do. If you say a stupid racial remark, you could be banned for life. I don't agree with doing it, iv never done it. But seriously you say a few words, and it gets you banned for life.
 
liltiger said:
But the company or employer in this instance would be Wests Tigers. If the N.R.L refused to register the contract as he was in prison, just wonder if he would have a legal avenue to challenge it. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't try to sign him, just curious how he could attempt it.
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Sure. The Tigers can employ him, but not as a player. The NRL decides which contracts to register.

For example. If at work, your manager wanted to hire someone, they do a background check at HR and they find he has a criminal conviction and pull thenjob offer based on character, can that person pursue legal remedies?

The NRL are the governing body of the game. They are a private institution. They have every right to reject any contract they please so long as it doesn't fall under the legal definition of discrimination which does not extend to ex-criminals. There's nothing in our laws that says ex-crims cannot be discriminated against.

There's also nothing in our laws that guarantees you a job at a certain employer just because you've done the job before or have worked there before.

The thinking is too shallow on this. If people believe his rights are being infringed upon, why don't we extend the example to, say paedophilia? Are the NRL allowed to block that contract from being registered? Or can the nonce pursue legal action?

There are 2 parties with rights in this situation. The NRL has the right to refuse as well. He has the right to apply. The government has no place in this interaction.
 
liltiger said:
Then by that theory they could reimplement a draft. Terry Hill won the supreme court case for a restraint of trade, but perhaps if we revisit it the N.R.L could argue the players not willing to participate could ply their trade overseas.
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What is forgotten was that Terry Hill had already signed a playing contract with Wests prior to the draft and his initial appeal was overturned. He was not allowed to honour his existing contract with Wests and was made to play with Easts. This formed one basis of the appeal in that he already had an existing contract to play and the draft violated his rights under that contact ( his contract with Easts was supposedly at a lower rate).
 
hank37w said:
So, just playing devil's advocate here but, someone is released from jail and his prior occupation is professional football player, should the NRL have the right to refuse him to make an honest living as part of his release and rehabilitation.

Would it happen if he was a builder, plumber or electrician?

Would the Master Builder's Association or relevant industry association say that he could not work in that industry until the time that his full prison term has expired
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Nonotmeagain said:
What is forgotten was that Terry Hill had already signed a playing contract with Wests prior to the draft and his initial appeal was overturned. He was not allowed to honour his existing contract with Wests and was made to play with Easts. This formed one basis of the appeal in that he already had an existing contract to play and the draft violated his rights under that contact ( his contract with Easts was supposedly at a lower rate).
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So in theory there may be a way over time for the N.R.L to adopt an A.F.L style draft and player trading system. Without any legal issues.
 
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