Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Modman]

None of those back rowers are first grade quality yet.

Will they be? Hopefully.

So a few things about some actual Wests players.
Luke Jack has put on about 7kg's over the off season and he's a 100% better player for it. He was getting dominated last year. Charlie Murray also seems bigger . Well done to our conditioning team.

We now have an abundance of backrowers who can fill in and do a job for the team when you add Saukuru, Godinet, Tapau-Moors, Geyer and Roberts to our starters. It's a huge improvement from the dark days of starting Seyfarth and Sukkar.

Makasini has to start. He's physically ready and mentally very confident. He's already the best centre at the club.

Finally Attard is a star in the making. Before offering Bula silly money they need to keep in mind that Attard is an Nrl starter in 2027.

out of curiosity how much are we taking off Bula s contract after just one trial. He looks like hes got a future but hes not at Bula level or close imo.

 

[hank37w]

lomax left now he wants to come back
if parramatta can't fit him in, no way they can restrict him from playing nrl elsewhere.
Lomax will probably win court case, restriction of trade

As far as I am concerned the only restriction of trade was created when Lomax requested a release from Parramatta and agreed to sign a contract that put restrictions on how and when he could next play in the NRL.

All this is his own doing and if a court rules otherwise it will be a travesty of justice and will only further emphasise why the public has little confidence in the judiciary who regularly appear to be out of touch with the standards and expectations of the community in general.

 

[Viva_Zapata]

Zzzzzzzzzzz

 

[HUNT 101]

Plenty to do with it, Parramatta would not have afforded to register Pezet’s contract had they left room for Lomax to return.
And the Storm certainly would not have agreed to release Pezet while still contracted tn them if they knew the Eels were going to handle it this way in return.
As someone mentioned, the common sense court ruling will be it is restraint of trade to not have any room for Lomax themselves, but want him to sit out and not play for anybody rather than releasing him to play for Melbourne Storm.

##"## him He can play rugby union for anyone he likes...see ya in a few years

 

[Dr_Ice]

Plenty to do with it, Parramatta would not have afforded to register Pezet’s contract had they left room for Lomax to return.
And the Storm certainly would not have agreed to release Pezet while still contracted tn them if they knew the Eels were going to handle it this way in return.
As someone mentioned, the common sense court ruling will be it is restraint of trade to not have any room for Lomax themselves, but want him to sit out and not play for anybody rather than releasing him to play for Melbourne Storm.

You have a weird take on things and claim others lack common sense.

Why would Parra leave room for Lomax to return?

Pezet leaving Melbourne was a completely different deal, not related to Lomax’s deal with rugby falling over.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

As far as I am concerned the only restriction of trade was created when Lomax requested a release from Parramatta and agreed to sign a contract that put restrictions on how and when he could next play in the NRL.

All this is his own doing and if a court rules otherwise it will be a travesty of justice and will only further emphasise why the public has little confidence in the judiciary who regularly appear to be out of touch with the standards and expectations of the community in general.

no if a court rules otherwise it will be a restriction of trade.
At present parramatta can't say we dont want you to play for us and by the way you can't play for anyone else either
Parramatta need to find a place for him if he wants to come back to nrl.

Parramatta should say fine we can take you for 300k then if Lomax doesnt accept that then potentially no restriction of trade.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

You have a weird take on things and claim others lack common sense.

Why would Parra leave room for Lomax to return?

Pezet leaving Melbourne was a completely different deal, not related to Lomax’s deal with rugby falling over.

Parramatta didnt think he would be coming back, he now wants to and unfortunately they need to make room for him or let him play elsewhere and be compensated for it.
most players would have gone to rugby but he is a moron afterall

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

I couldn't give a rats arse where Lorax plays, unless he's coming here whats infatuation with him?

 

[Leck]

I couldn't give a rats arse where Lorax plays, unless he's coming here whats infatuation with him?

The business of sport is changing quickly. Coin over contract is prevalent.

The LIV League has changed golf forever, and it’s taken a chunk out of the PGA. The same could happen to the NRL with raids from union or even an international rugby league competition that might lead to a serious local talent drain.

PVL’s 20 team NRL mantra could be his downfall.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

I couldn't give a rats arse where Lorax plays, unless he's coming here whats infatuation with him?

Could we pencil him in at right centre and do a player swap with Toa, I'm sure Parra would roll out the red carpet.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Could we pencil him in at right centre and do a player swap with Toa, I'm sure Parra would roll out the red carpet.

and they could even offer Junior and Moses to sweeten the deal🤔

 

[Oldman]

Honestly he wanted to play rugby union for the big pay packet with 360 , that fell on it's ass ,now if the agreement with Parra is we'll let you go but not for another club, that should be the outcome, go find a rugby union team in France or somewhere... definitely don't let him stroll into the Storms it's would be ass wipe on any contract moving forward...

💯

 

[Tito Santana]

The business of sport is changing quickly. Coin over contract is prevalent.

The LIV League has changed golf forever, and it’s taken a chunk out of the PGA. The same could happen to the NRL with raids from union or even an international rugby league competition that might lead to a serious local talent drain.

PVL’s 20 team NRL mantra could be his downfall.

I hope it is. Abdo is just a puppet

 

[gregjm87]

They got something in return, they got Pezet.
Now they are just being greedy and wanting him tn sit on the sideline and not play for anyone, it’s very petty.

Except they didn't get Pezet in return. The two deals are completely unrelated.
You could argue they are being petty but I would suggest they are doing the right thing for the club with regards to leveraging their clause for compensation they deem worthy.

lomax left now he wants to come back
if parramatta can't fit him in, no way they can restrict him from playing nrl elsewhere.
Lomax will probably win court case, restriction of trade

Restriction of trade is the grounds they will be arguing but non-compete clauses are legally binding but only when reasonable with regards to timeframe, geography and must genuinely protect the employers business interests.
Furthermore Lomax will allege that Eels have not been reasonable in considering compensation offers.
This will genuinely come down to the lawyers and the judge as there is strong arguments either way on pretty much all accounts.
I would suggest Lomax should be more likely to win the case. Whilst that is my (in no way qualified) legal perspective it is not what I think should be the case (as in what is morally right in my opinion) because Lomax has known what he has agreed to at every step.
I just don't see how they can uphold the length of the non-compete or the geography aspect. Similar it is not as though Lomax is taking IP with him that will disrupt the Eels as business.

 

[BeeCeen]

The business of sport is changing quickly. Coin over contract is prevalent.

The LIV League has changed golf forever, and it’s taken a chunk out of the PGA. The same could happen to the NRL with raids from union or even an international rugby league competition that might lead to a serious local talent drain.

PVL’s 20 team NRL mantra could be his downfall.

Just to clarify: all the evidence points to LIV failing massively and losing the players it took back to the PGA. For example:

Slate link

Not saying that R360, or another international rugby or league competition could not emerge, but the fate of LIV, and the delay of R360, actually suggest that it takes more than money to create a sport league that people will actually watch longer term. Developing tribal fandom takes time

 

[Leica_Tiger]

I just wish we had a similar to Parra mindset when “allowing” our former brats to break contract, still hate them and hope Lorax what he deserves - damaged goods.
Love that we are out of the headlines apart from Big Mak bursting into the scene, exciting times ahead Tigbros

 

[gregjm87]

As far as I am concerned the only restriction of trade was created when Lomax requested a release from Parramatta and agreed to sign a contract that put restrictions on how and when he could next play in the NRL.

All this is his own doing and if a court rules otherwise it will be a travesty of justice and will only further emphasise why the public has little confidence in the judiciary who regularly appear to be out of touch with the standards and expectations of the community in general.

I'll add I think the NRL are [This word has been automatically removed]ing spineless for letting this get to court and not saying they won't register a contract for Lomax if Eels don't sign their release.
I understand the argument of wanting the best talents playing the game but you also don't want to set a precedent of players breaking contracts as well (though arguably that horse has long bolted). I think Lomax playing for Storm without Eels getting fairly compensated does more damage to the game then him sitting out a year.

 

[TheEnz]

Interesting part of the *Lorax situation is the eels never said you cant come back to NRL. They did however say we would have to sign off on the club you go to. I wonder if the $ compensation or player swap would have been an issue if it was the Titans, knights, tigers etc..

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Just to clarify: all the evidence points to LIV failing massively and losing the players it took back to the PGA. For example:

Slate link

Not saying that R360, or another international rugby or league competition could not emerge, but the fate of LIV, and the delay of R360, actually suggest that it takes more than money to create a sport league that people will actually watch longer term. Developing tribal fandom takes time

that Liv event in Adelaide is well attended 115k attended over the four days.
issue with Liv is it is hard to find in tv to watch.
They need fox sports netflix stan etc to take up the coverage and improve it.
PGA are arrogant always have been

 

[old_man_tiger]

Lorax and Parra can both go and get stuffed