Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Jolls said:
There is two sides to that coin unfortunately. He was strong with the ball and was making,ost of pour plays and scoring most of our points off the back of some very effective defence, across the board. On the other side of the coin his running game and "I can do it" attitude meant that those outside him had limited opportunities.

While there were many singing AD's priases there was also a core that were concerned based on what he was producing. It did not take long for the rest of the NRL to wake up to AD; he is a one trick pony. His strength gets him by some of the time but a committed defence , and his injury, put that to bed pretty quickly.
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Adam was an elite athelete with good foott before the injury
 
Leck said:
Agreed, but our juniors aren't. There's plenty of talent there - Heamasi, Attard, Logan, Archie and Blake Van Drie all look like they'll make it in first grade.
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We said this 3 years ago tho and they all fell out with the club or coach and left, they had attitude issues like miller or simply aren’t good enough like mason. So not saying the young lads are doomed but we can’t pin all the hopes of the club on young talent
 
Leck said:
Agreed, but our juniors aren't. There's plenty of talent there - Heamasi, Attard, Logan, Archie and Blake Van Drie all look like they'll make it in first grade.
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Be jnteresting to see how many make it to the NRL and are successful ( more than the average amount of games played by someone at NRL level ....I think someone said 43 games )

If we get 2 to that level I'll be surprised
 
achilles said:
Adam was an elite athelete with good foott before the injury
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I wouldn't say elite, but yes he is a very good athlete but as a 7 he has a poor passing game and a below standard kicking game. He can be a good athlete and playing well for the team and still not be the player we need. He was the best player we had in attack, but that was primarly because those out side him rarely saw the pill.
 
Adam Doueihi if playing 5/8 will not be our problem, but he will need to be playing extremely well to keep Javon Andrews out of the team.
Our halves are fine, we just need added depth in other positions to ensure our halves have decent quality around them, even when we get a few injuries.
 
So far this is what our NRL and Cup(depth) squad is looking like for next season based on confirmed signings. The starting 13-17 looks strong enough and did the job early this season, but when injuries hit and the back end of the roster had to stand up is when we fell apart.

We are definite need in a couple more middles and overall depth in the forwards. Frizell would be a good addition on the bench/depth. Retaining Skelton on a cheap deal would also be ideal, but hopefully we can add a NRL calibre forward to the squad and reliable depth players to round out the top 30 for next season


* - Most likely re-signed/retained
** - Train and trial likely
1. Jahream Bula1. Jack Attard
2. Sunia Turuva2. Tino Tavana
3. Jake Averillo3. Solo Saukuru
4. Taylan May4. Patrick Herbert
5. Heamasi Makisini5. Junior Tupou
6. Latu Fainu6. Javon Andrews
7. Adam Doueihi7. Jock Madden
8. Terrell May8. Vaka Aho*
9. Api Koroisau 9. Jared Haywood
10. Fonua Pole 10. Christian Taupau-Moors
11. Samuela Fainu11. Tony Sukkar*
12. Kai Pearce-Paul12. Ethan Roberts
13. Alex Twal13. Josh Schuster**
14. Jayden Brailey14. Pheonix Godinet
15. Sione Fainu15. Max Taotua
16. Royce Hunt16. Archie Duncombe
17. Alex Seyfarth17. Mitchell Taotua
 
Canadian Club said:
So far this is what our NRL and Cup(depth) squad is looking like for next season based on confirmed signings. The starting 13-17 looks strong enough and did the job early this season, but when injuries hit and the back end of the roster had to stand up is when we fell apart.

We are definite need in a couple more middles and overall depth in the forwards. Frizell would be a good addition on the bench/depth. Retaining Skelton on a cheap deal would also be ideal, but hopefully we can add a NRL calibre forward to the squad and reliable depth players to round out the top 30 for next season


* - Most likely re-signed/retained
** - Train and trial likely
1. Jahream Bula1. Jack Attard
2. Sunia Turuva2. Tino Tavana
3. Jake Averillo3. Solo Saukuru
4. Taylan May4. Patrick Herbert
5. Heamasi Makisini5. Junior Tupou
6. Latu Fainu6. Javon Andrews
7. Adam Doueihi7. Jock Madden
8. Terrell May8. Vaka Aho*
9. Api Koroisau9. Jared Haywood
10. Fonua Pole10. Christian Taupau-Moors
11. Samuela Fainu11. Tony Sukkar*
12. Kai Pearce-Paul12. Ethan Roberts
13. Alex Twal13. Josh Schuster**
14. Jayden Brailey14. Pheonix Godinet
15. Sione Fainu15. Max Taotua
16. Royce Hunt16. Archie Duncombe
17. Alex Seyfarth17. Mitchell Taotua
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The top 17 looks decent and capable of challenging almost any rival team if they are all playing close to the best of their abilities.
I would hope it’s Latu at 7 and Doueihi at 6, even though Latu is probably better suited at 6 himself.
The problem is still our depth.
Halves depth looks decent.
We need better depth with at least one good quality outside back, we need at least one good quality middle and ideally another edge back row option.
That NSW Cup forward pack looks too young and inexperienced, they need one, maybe two tough experienced forward leaders to help with their development.
 
The next man up theory doesn't always work it's just another catch phrase that people over use to back a narrative.
Everyone is always wiser after the fact when they see who finishes at the top of the competition but it is ridiculous to assume that all things are equal at every club - especially when it comes down to the ability of squads.
There will always be teams that are weaker than others.
Newcastle definitely the surprise packet this season and not surprisingly probably Ponghas best season in an age. Also they brought Peter OSullivan to the club 2024 one of the best recruitment managers in the business also responsible for putting the Dolphins squad together - both teams there at the pointy end and the talent is evident in both squads.
Melbourne is a great example of the next man up not always being enough - hit by injuries and just didn't have the quality of players that they are accustom to - to maintain the position they have held in the top eight consistently for years with the best coach/resources in the business.
 
happy_tiger said:
I look at it slightly differently

How many players who show suspect defence early in their careers , don't become adequate defenders
Take Ewan McGrady ....won a Rothmans but ultimately couldn't improve their defence to an acceptable level
Ben Barba , the McGuinness brothers the list goes on and on
It doesn't matter how good your attack is , if you can't defend you won't make it
People just brush it off .....give him the off season , he will improve with time
Look at Bellamy's and Clearys sides how many players are poor defenders ??
And if they are ....what happens ....ask Talagi
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Gee, Happy, shouldn't your post come with a Health Warning for having mentioned the R***Man's Medal?

I think I remember Ewan McGrady - wasn't he the Middle Brother in the TV sitcom The McGrady Bunch? I'm getting old and that was back in the days when we had two types of Telly - Black and White - the TV Studios must have been based at Lidcombe. 😂 🤣 🐯
 
Jolls said:
I wouldn't say elite, but yes he is a very good athlete but as a 7 he has a poor passing game and a below standard kicking game. He can be a good athlete and playing well for the team and still not be the player we need. He was the best player we had in attack, but that was primarly because those out side him rarely saw the pill.
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He had that spectacular form at 6. Just needed to pass more.

7 terrible
 
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