Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Needaname]

Ethan Bullemor,
Looks like a very good Backrower prospect, sign him up on a development contract Tigers!
Currently plays juniors with Norths Devils and Rugby for his school. Queenslander, but they can't have them all,
This kid has a lot of Angus Crihten In him.

Ethan is a boarder from Rockhampton, Queensland, and started at Nudgee College in Year 11\. Like many boarders, he takes advantage of the Reach for the Stars academic tutoring program, which runs four evenings a week and provides staff and tutors to help boarders with their homework, assignments and study.

Ethan is a talented rugby player and this year is vice-captain of the college 1st XV.

“My ultimate goal is to have a career in the NRL or be a professional sportsman,” Ethan said. “But it’s also really important to get through to university and come out with a degree. I am interested in the law pathway.

“I don’t like to set just one goal. I would like to be the best I can be in all things, school, sport and as a person.”

You seen him play mate?

Lol you know the answer to that.

 

[Needaname]

Oh wait, not in person, there was a YouTube clip on the roar.

 

[Needaname]

In all fairness I feel the club had rested on its laurels in the past and relied on the talent supplied to them via local clubs or keebra park. Correct me if I'm wrong but benji was the first and last player that was actually sounded out by us then provided a scholarship to Keebra park. It seems since then we've just picked up whoever the broncos or other clubs haven't wanted and recuited them to the Tigers 20s team.
It's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation but when was the last time you heard the tigers actually searching and recruited future players that weren't in there own development system?

I'll expand on the others:

Mitch Moses
Seumanufangai
Twal
Aloiai
Chee-Kam
Eisenhuth
Liddle
Those two fellows from Newcastle and the Sharks fullback for 2018
JAC
Tyson Gamble
Matt Lodge

Surely you just haven't given this much thought.

Also obviously we have a fairly big recruitment area and don't need to drive into other territories as much as folks like Easts.

The key word in my point was future.
I'll give you Liddle, but even then he was recuited for 20s. I get what you were saying in regards to the players you've listed. I'm talking about recruiting a couple of kids into our system from really early on. This kid probably doesn't even fit the bill but his out there just like others and you know when we are going to hear about him next, when the Broncos, Cowboys or Storm have added him into their extended nrl squad.
All I'm saying is I'd be intrigued to know how wide we cast a net in regards to identifying potential talent?
If someone has the answer to that I'd be happy to talk to them about it.

 

[everett8]

Angus Crichton would be one of the best purchases in WT history. Would have to pay well overs to get him. Thought he was the only good thing about South's season.

Nathan Brown was huge for Parramatta this year. maybe change of clubs is what some players need.

 

[westy81]

Arrgghh… I have to jump in again. Can't handle it.

I can't believe we are even thinking even remotely this way for next year.

No matter how the team goes next year, if we boot Cleary or do anything but support him, what quality coach in their right mind is going to want to come here?? Not only that, but what players are going to want to come here??

In 2 years, we've lost Farah, Tedesco, Moses, Woods & Halatau. 2 Captains, a VC and 3/4rs of our spine!

It boggles my mind that everyone would even entertain the prospect of drama again. The thing that has driven us mad the past 5 years and resulted in us ending down the bottom of the table every god damn season!

Set goals, create motivation, start to build to where we need to be. But don't set damn ultimatums because Cleary would have to go Barrett on a player to want go down that path or instability again so soon!

I think people on here just love drama. Must love the telegraph.... Just sit still for at least 1 year and give all the support you can muster!

Can't speak for Col (who is actually Mike IIRC), but I wasn't suggesting change, just that Cleary has a much better opportunity to quickly create his own team than most, if not any recent incoming NRL coach. Particularly when compared to the last two coaches at WT, who had very little.

Too make clear I think Cleary will work out and I reckon he has enough of the right stuff to make it work here. In fact it's like we recruited the Panthers structure into our fold, now we got their coach and everyone who's sick of Gus! (ok not everyone, that's a very long list).

But there will be mistakes. Like the original comment, Cleary only has Cleary to blame if there is No success in 2018\. Now I expect us to hit 9-12\. If were hitting 15/16th then Cleary hasn't solved our problems and would only have himself to blame, but that wont be happening.

My original thought when Ivan was signed was , relief, that we had a real coach at last,
And confusion as to why He would take on what has been a nightmare for the last four of five years.
After thinking about it, it may not be the mission impossible that most RL supporters would think.
When you are starting at the bottom or dangerously near it , Its not that hard to lift a team a few places if you are a good Coach and can pick up a few workers to bolster the team. Defence can be improved( I'm not talking about Taylor Ball) with the right attitude in the team. .( something that will be a lot better than under Taylor)
His biggest problem is finding someone who can put some points on the board to replace Teddy. And whether the forwards can take on more workload to replace Woods.if Cleary can lift us a couple of spots in 18 and another couple in 2019.
that would be looked at as oK by a lot, and not unachievable.
Our problem then is keeping him as he will have at least dragged us out of the cellar
And couldn't be looked at as a complete failure, and wouldn't have damaged His standing as a Coach.( because expectancy wouldn't be that heavy on him)
if he's a reasonable Coach , and most seem to think he definitely is,he could come out of this Coaching gig with his reputation enhanced with out having to get us to the finals
It'd be nice if he could though
This isn't a critism of Cleary, it's just a observation about not having to get us into the finals to come out with his reputation intact.
Remember we are favourite to come last next season acccording to the bookies.
A few successes and no hidings could be looked at by some , as an definate improvement

Yes it will be hard to replace Teddy but I think Ivan is a very good coach and it’s not that we have to replace Teddy with a clone or some one of his caliber, I’m pretty sure Cleary will be changing the structure of how we attack/defend next year i think we will see a different Tigers style next year, then what we have seen the last couple of years, which we have been relying on Teddy getting his hands on the ball at least once a set now we will proabably be relying on the whole team not just the one player to make the magic happen

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We won't be signing Angus. Not saying we shouldn't be interested, but it won't happen.

 

[AL The Tiger]

We won't be signing Angus. Not saying we shouldn't be interested, but it won't happen.

As usual.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Arrgghh… I have to jump in again. Can't handle it.

I can't believe we are even thinking even remotely this way for next year.

No matter how the team goes next year, if we boot Cleary or do anything but support him, what quality coach in their right mind is going to want to come here?? Not only that, but what players are going to want to come here??

In 2 years, we've lost Farah, Tedesco, Moses, Woods & Halatau. 2 Captains, a VC and 3/4rs of our spine!

It boggles my mind that everyone would even entertain the prospect of drama again. The thing that has driven us mad the past 5 years and resulted in us ending down the bottom of the table every god damn season!

Set goals, create motivation, start to build to where we need to be. But don't set damn ultimatums because Cleary would have to go Barrett on a player to want go down that path or instability again so soon!

I think people on here just love drama. Must love the telegraph.... Just sit still for at least 1 year and give all the support you can muster!

Can't speak for Col (who is actually Mike IIRC), but I wasn't suggesting change, just that Cleary has a much better opportunity to quickly create his own team than most, if not any recent incoming NRL coach. Particularly when compared to the last two coaches at WT, who had very little.

Too make clear I think Cleary will work out and I reckon he has enough of the right stuff to make it work here. In fact it's like we recruited the Panthers structure into our fold, now we got their coach and everyone who's sick of Gus! (ok not everyone, that's a very long list).

But there will be mistakes. Like the original comment, Cleary only has Cleary to blame if there is No success in 2018\. Now I expect us to hit 9-12\. If were hitting 15/16th then Cleary hasn't solved our problems and would only have himself to blame, but that wont be happening.

My original thought when Ivan was signed was , relief, that we had a real coach at last,
And confusion as to why He would take on what has been a nightmare for the last four of five years.
After thinking about it, it may not be the mission impossible that most RL supporters would think.
When you are starting at the bottom or dangerously near it , Its not that hard to lift a team a few places if you are a good Coach and can pick up a few workers to bolster the team. Defence can be improved( I'm not talking about Taylor Ball) with the right attitude in the team. .( something that will be a lot better than under Taylor)
His biggest problem is finding someone who can put some points on the board to replace Teddy. And whether the forwards can take on more workload to replace Woods.if Cleary can lift us a couple of spots in 18 and another couple in 2019.
that would be looked at as oK by a lot, and not unachievable.
Our problem then is keeping him as he will have at least dragged us out of the cellar
And couldn't be looked at as a complete failure, and wouldn't have damaged His standing as a Coach.( because expectancy wouldn't be that heavy on him)
if he's a reasonable Coach , and most seem to think he definitely is,he could come out of this Coaching gig with his reputation enhanced with out having to get us to the finals
It'd be nice if he could though
This isn't a critism of Cleary, it's just a observation about not having to get us into the finals to come out with his reputation intact.
Remember we are favourite to come last next season acccording to the bookies.
A few successes and no hidings could be looked at by some , as an definate improvement

I'm confused, part of that post seemed hopeful mate, are you feeling ok?

 

[Pawsandclaws]

If Ivan can get the team to provide a more consistent standard of footy (middle ground between the highs and the lows), we're in with a chance. We've bought some good players, retained some very good juniors and also purchased 3 really good juniors from other clubs with room for 2 more. Strange to say, but Twal to me has demonstrated maturity and leadership beyond his years. A big signing for WTs.

 

[Demps]

If Ivan can get the team to provide a more consistent standard of footy (middle ground between the highs and the lows), we're in with a chance. We've bought some good players, retained some very good juniors and also purchased 3 really good juniors from other clubs with room for 2 more. Strange to say, but Twal to me has demonstrated maturity and leadership beyond his years. A big signing for WTs.

Yep.
Twal has a huge future.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Can't speak for Col (who is actually Mike IIRC), but I wasn't suggesting change, just that Cleary has a much better opportunity to quickly create his own team than most, if not any recent incoming NRL coach. Particularly when compared to the last two coaches at WT, who had very little.

Too make clear I think Cleary will work out and I reckon he has enough of the right stuff to make it work here. In fact it's like we recruited the Panthers structure into our fold, now we got their coach and everyone who's sick of Gus! (ok not everyone, that's a very long list).

But there will be mistakes. Like the original comment, Cleary only has Cleary to blame if there is No success in 2018\. Now I expect us to hit 9-12\. If were hitting 15/16th then Cleary hasn't solved our problems and would only have himself to blame, but that wont be happening.

My original thought when Ivan was signed was , relief, that we had a real coach at last,
And confusion as to why He would take on what has been a nightmare for the last four of five years.
After thinking about it, it may not be the mission impossible that most RL supporters would think.
When you are starting at the bottom or dangerously near it , Its not that hard to lift a team a few places if you are a good Coach and can pick up a few workers to bolster the team. Defence can be improved( I'm not talking about Taylor Ball) with the right attitude in the team. .( something that will be a lot better than under Taylor)
His biggest problem is finding someone who can put some points on the board to replace Teddy. And whether the forwards can take on more workload to replace Woods.if Cleary can lift us a couple of spots in 18 and another couple in 2019.
that would be looked at as oK by a lot, and not unachievable.
Our problem then is keeping him as he will have at least dragged us out of the cellar
And couldn't be looked at as a complete failure, and wouldn't have damaged His standing as a Coach.( because expectancy wouldn't be that heavy on him)
if he's a reasonable Coach , and most seem to think he definitely is,he could come out of this Coaching gig with his reputation enhanced with out having to get us to the finals
It'd be nice if he could though
This isn't a critism of Cleary, it's just a observation about not having to get us into the finals to come out with his reputation intact.
Remember we are favourite to come last next season acccording to the bookies.
A few successes and no hidings could be looked at by some , as an definate improvement

I'm confused, part of that post seemed hopeful mate, are you feeling ok?

Naaaahhh, just a bit of a temperature, I'll be back to my cheery self soon :smiley:

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If Ivan can get the team to provide a more consistent standard of footy (middle ground between the highs and the lows), we're in with a chance. We've bought some good players, retained some very good juniors and also purchased 3 really good juniors from other clubs with room for 2 more. Strange to say, but Twal to me has demonstrated maturity and leadership beyond his years. A big signing for WTs.

I didn't see much of Twal, but what I did see was enough to think he's a big chance of staying in first grade next season.

 

[Geo]

If Ivan can get the team to provide a more consistent standard of footy (middle ground between the highs and the lows), we're in with a chance. We've bought some good players, retained some very good juniors and also purchased 3 really good juniors from other clubs with room for 2 more. Strange to say, but Twal to me has demonstrated maturity and leadership beyond his years. A big signing for WTs.

I didn't see much of Twal, but what I did see was enough to think he's a big chance of staying in first grade next season.

Played 9 games straight a week after signing mid-season…switched of early eh...

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If Ivan can get the team to provide a more consistent standard of footy (middle ground between the highs and the lows), we're in with a chance. We've bought some good players, retained some very good juniors and also purchased 3 really good juniors from other clubs with room for 2 more. Strange to say, but Twal to me has demonstrated maturity and leadership beyond his years. A big signing for WTs.

I didn't see much of Twal, but what I did see was enough to think he's a big chance of staying in first grade next season.

Played 9 games straight a week after signing mid-season…switched of early eh...

Missed more games , or parts of games than normal

 

[Tacky]

We won't be signing Angus. Not saying we shouldn't be interested, but it won't happen.

You gotta have faith…

 

[TigersDenNZ]

We won't be signing Angus. Not saying we shouldn't be interested, but it won't happen.

You gotta have faith…

Thats been the warriors motto for over 20 years ?

 

[Tim Sheens]

Can't speak for Col (who is actually Mike IIRC), but I wasn't suggesting change, just that Cleary has a much better opportunity to quickly create his own team than most, if not any recent incoming NRL coach. Particularly when compared to the last two coaches at WT, who had very little.

Too make clear I think Cleary will work out and I reckon he has enough of the right stuff to make it work here. In fact it's like we recruited the Panthers structure into our fold, now we got their coach and everyone who's sick of Gus! (ok not everyone, that's a very long list).

But there will be mistakes. Like the original comment, Cleary only has Cleary to blame if there is No success in 2018\. Now I expect us to hit 9-12\. If were hitting 15/16th then Cleary hasn't solved our problems and would only have himself to blame, but that wont be happening.

My original thought when Ivan was signed was , relief, that we had a real coach at last,
And confusion as to why He would take on what has been a nightmare for the last four of five years.
After thinking about it, it may not be the mission impossible that most RL supporters would think.
When you are starting at the bottom or dangerously near it , Its not that hard to lift a team a few places if you are a good Coach and can pick up a few workers to bolster the team. Defence can be improved( I'm not talking about Taylor Ball) with the right attitude in the team. .( something that will be a lot better than under Taylor)
His biggest problem is finding someone who can put some points on the board to replace Teddy. And whether the forwards can take on more workload to replace Woods.if Cleary can lift us a couple of spots in 18 and another couple in 2019.
that would be looked at as oK by a lot, and not unachievable.
Our problem then is keeping him as he will have at least dragged us out of the cellar
And couldn't be looked at as a complete failure, and wouldn't have damaged His standing as a Coach.( because expectancy wouldn't be that heavy on him)
if he's a reasonable Coach , and most seem to think he definitely is,he could come out of this Coaching gig with his reputation enhanced with out having to get us to the finals
It'd be nice if he could though
This isn't a critism of Cleary, it's just a observation about not having to get us into the finals to come out with his reputation intact.
Remember we are favourite to come last next season acccording to the bookies.
A few successes and no hidings could be looked at by some , as an definate improvement

I'm confused, part of that post seemed hopeful mate, are you feeling ok?

He goes on to say he was suffering from a bit of temperature, but to come out with something like that, well I'm worried he was struck by a large chunk of that hail that hit his area. There is hope.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I'm a bit mythed that he's already giving Cleary a pass for the next two years for not making the finals. Funny, the last coach never got that pass. Then again, it was personal with the last coach.

 

[earl]

I'm a bit mythed that he's already giving Cleary a pass for the next two years for not making the finals. Funny, the last coach never got that pass. Then again, it was personal with the last coach.

These comments keep coming up but Cleary compared to Taylor to me is chalk and cheese. Taylor really stuffed us. Cleary appears to be doing his best and his best is a lot lot better than Taylor.

I don't think Taylor is capable enough to be a first grade coach at this point and he has probably learnt a lot from his experience with us. It was a terrible decision to employ him.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I'm a bit mythed that he's already giving Cleary a pass for the next two years for not making the finals. Funny, the last coach never got that pass. Then again, it was personal with the last coach.

These comments keep coming up but Cleary compared to Taylor to me is chalk and cheese. Taylor really stuffed us. Cleary appears to be doing his best and his best is a lot lot better than Taylor.

I don't think Taylor is capable enough to be a first grade coach at this point and he has probably learnt a lot from his experience with us. It was a terrible decision to employ him.

Does Cleary get a pass if we fail to play finals in 18 and 19?