Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102270) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102255) said:
@Tigerstar said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102254) said:
Storm are struggling with salary cap, I'd love Munster here if they want to clear some space

We could do with a hooker too?

We need a Hooker and Speed
Are we talking football
Hobbo1 where is a good place to find these 2 things we desperately need
Where do you go ?

Vegas
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen

Wrong
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen


mate....I can tell you .....now

It 100% has happened a number of times, ironically at least once with Chris Lawrence
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102280) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

Didn’t Mitchell just do exactly that?

no
 
@Glenn5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102287) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen


mate....I can tell you .....now

It 100% has happened a number of times, ironically at least once with Chris Lawrence

ill take an NRL salary cap auditors word over yours
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102288) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102280) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

Didn’t Mitchell just do exactly that?

no

So tell us how it went down with Lawrence then!
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

Pretty sure it's Separate deals...Souff's would have to stump up the difference should it be less...

It's happened before At one stage Todd Payten was being paid by the Raiders Rorters and Us...sweet deal..
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen

Really?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-look-to-extend-chris-lawrence-with-revised-deal-20160413-go5m8x.html

Farah is on the best part of $1 million next year, while Lawrence is on $600,000. Those commitments alone make it difficult to retain several off-contract players they want to keep, let alone go into the open market.
While Lawrence is entitled to every cent of his current contract money, the Tigers are hoping he may consider a new deal that guarantees him $450,000 per season for 2017 and 2018.


That deal went through by the way!
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102289) said:
@Glenn5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102287) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen


mate....I can tell you .....now

It 100% has happened a number of times, ironically at least once with Chris Lawrence

ill take an NRL salary cap auditors word over yours


Really? Which salary cap auditor? Name? When? What happened to the Tigers re Lawrences last contract?
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102294) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen

Really?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-look-to-extend-chris-lawrence-with-revised-deal-20160413-go5m8x.html

Farah is on the best part of $1 million next year, while Lawrence is on $600,000. Those commitments alone make it difficult to retain several off-contract players they want to keep, let alone go into the open market.
While Lawrence is entitled to every cent of his current contract money, the Tigers are hoping he may consider a new deal that guarantees him $450,000 per season for 2017 and 2018.


That deal went through by the way!

you're talking 4 years ago

you've also conveniently left out the part that says the NRL rarely allow it

now they don't, at all
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102293) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

Pretty sure it's Separate deals...Souff's would have to stump up the difference should it be less...

It's happened before At one stage Todd Payten was being paid by the Raiders Rorters and Us...sweet deal..

You’ve been around a while mate (with all due respect) but didn’t Lawrence have the last year of his contract renegotiated with a new contract for a longer period and a less amount?
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Dont you remember? Chris Lawrence had a deal for $400k plus for two more years, he gave up on that, renegotiated, and accepted a 3 year deal for $300k a year. That was about 3 years ago.

Maybe its different if youre switching clubs, or maybe theyve changed the rules, but I haven't heard that they have.
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102296) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102294) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102285) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102282) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Your namesake did?

mate I can tell you now, it 100% cant happen

Really?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-look-to-extend-chris-lawrence-with-revised-deal-20160413-go5m8x.html

Farah is on the best part of $1 million next year, while Lawrence is on $600,000. Those commitments alone make it difficult to retain several off-contract players they want to keep, let alone go into the open market.
While Lawrence is entitled to every cent of his current contract money, the Tigers are hoping he may consider a new deal that guarantees him $450,000 per season for 2017 and 2018.


That deal went through by the way!

you're talking 4 years ago

you've also conveniently left out the part that says the NRL rarely allow it

now they don't, at all

You said they don't allow it, not that the used to allow it? the NRL may rarely allow it but they did with Lawrence so you saying they never allow it is wrong!
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He can get a release from Souths under whatever conditions that they two parties negotiate, and then sign a new contract for whatever amounts are agreed to.

A player can renegotiate a contract, they just cannot push salary back into later years of the (backend) contract (ala Robbie)
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102298) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Dont you remember? Chris Lawrence had a deal for $400k plus for two more years, he gave up on that, renegotiated, and accepted a 3 year deal for $300k a year. That was about 3 years ago.

Maybe its different if youre switching clubs, or maybe theyve changed the rules, but I haven't heard that they have.

Lawrence was on $600k for 2017 which he renegotiated for $450k for seasons 2017 and 2018.
 
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102297) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102293) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

Pretty sure it's Separate deals...Souff's would have to stump up the difference should it be less...

It's happened before At one stage Todd Payten was being paid by the Raiders Rorters and Us...sweet deal..

You’ve been around a while mate (with all due respect) but didn’t Lawrence have the last year of his contract renegotiated with a new contract for a longer period and a less amount?

Technically Not less.... restructured in the cap allotment ....was signed to a back ended deal so instead of carrying 600K it was spread over 2 years and he got an extra year added on..
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102302) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102298) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102279) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102278) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102276) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102275) said:
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102274) said:
@beachtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102273) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102266) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102260) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102232) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1102222) said:
If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.

You'd be getting him for under 400k for 2020 as Souths have already paid him 3 months. Assuming the 500k figure is accurate.


Let him train with Souths till March then sign him..will only cost us $330k for 2020....

You’re talking as though they need to let him go. They probably don’t. We’re not doing them a favour taking Doueihi.

You’re right but maybe Doueihi needs to be realistic as well. Either he stays at Souths playing backup and collect $500k for two years stalling his development in the process or he accepts a reduced deal to join the Tigers.

Why should the Tigers be the ones that are wearing everything, by all reports Souths don’t “need” to move him on and would be happy to see him bide his time as backup so maybe it’s Doueihi that needs to give a bit as well.


a player cant reduce their deal, NRL wont allow it

He wouldn’t be reducing it he would be negotiating a new contract and if it were for three seasons that worked out at say $400k per year then no problems with that at all for the NRL.


yes there would, the NRL don't allow it. a player who is already signed for 2020 on $500k can not sign a new contract anywhere for a lesser amount

I would think with your user name that you’d know better, he can absolutely agree to a longer contract at a different yearly rate.

ok mate:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Dont you remember? Chris Lawrence had a deal for $400k plus for two more years, he gave up on that, renegotiated, and accepted a 3 year deal for $300k a year. That was about 3 years ago.

Maybe its different if youre switching clubs, or maybe theyve changed the rules, but I haven't heard that they have.

Lawrence was on $600k for 2017 which he renegotiated for $450k for seasons 2017 and 2018.

I stand corrected
 

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