Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Leilua would be solid - just worry about his brain explosions. Madge might be able to keep it in check.

I really hope we're still doing all we can on JAC.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103370) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103363) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103345) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103326) said:
Joey can get exposed defensively ...can get very lazy defending a blind side

Just watch the winning try from the grand final last season it’s a prime example

Yeah but they probably wouldn’t have been in the GF without him. He was a big part of there success last year.

It’s easy to focus on the negatives - but BJ has far more upside than downside. He puts in every game and is streaks infront of anything we have had in the backline for a long long time.

Imagine him and Noffa 1-2 combo - will give a few team nightmares and start us off very well each set. Plenty of tries will come that side for us as well.

JL was successful at the Raiders because he had Jordan Rapana outside of him. If it is intended to buy JL, we will need to buy or promote from the lower grads a top quality finisher who is also strong defensively. Finishing means length of the field not only from 10 metres out and it does not include being pulled down form behind when in the clear.


He scored plenty of tries, broke lots of tackles and made plenty of offloads all by himself. They made each other better by their combination. Rapana looked much less dangerous when playing for NZ than when he had Leilua at centre.
I’d prefer we get a strike fullback but that’s not happening so I’m fine with them going after Leilua. He definitely provides a big headache for defences.
 
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103345) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103326) said:
Joey can get exposed defensively ...can get very lazy defending a blind side

Just watch the winning try from the grand final last season it’s a prime example


Dont just follow along because Andrew Johns says so. The reason BJ was slow to get back in the line is he saved a try the tackle before with a great legs tackle which unfortunately means a fast ptb. I blame Rapana & Sezer for taht last try.
 
No one to blame for that try ,both teams were gassed.
Roosters are a ridiculously dangerous team with the ball and seized the opportunity
 
@Moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103390) said:
Leilua would be solid - just worry about his brain explosions. Madge might be able to keep it in check.

I really hope we're still doing all we can on JAC.

We are better off with him than without him.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?
 
@bbobb said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103344) said:
What do you mean when you say St. Pats has a high opinion of itself?

I mean that St Pats tries to position itself as one of the fancy schools in the area, but it's just a regular Christian Bros with average sporting and academic achievements. And everyone likes beating them in any endeavour possible.

Shame they don't play League anymore; there's so much energy wasted in schoolboy rugby, that has no long term purpose within the 4th-ranked dying football code. You've got all these kids in ISA / CAS / GPS schools, the latter with their faux exclusivity and horrendous school fees, plying away at rugby to then play Shute Shield or maybe jag some pointless Super Rugby spot, until the powers close a franchise down.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103403) said:
@bbobb said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103344) said:
What do you mean when you say St. Pats has a high opinion of itself?

I mean that St Pats tries to position itself as one of the fancy schools in the area, but it's just a regular Christian Bros with average sporting and academic achievements. And everyone likes beating them in any endeavour possible.

Shame they don't play League anymore; there's so much energy wasted in schoolboy rugby, that has no long term purpose within the 4th-ranked dying football code. You've got all these kids in ISA / CAS / GPS schools, the latter with their faux exclusivity and horrendous school fees, plying away at rugby to then play Shute Shield or maybe jag some pointless Super Rugby spot, until the powers close a franchise down.

Very, very sad, don’t you think?
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103403) said:
@bbobb said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103344) said:
What do you mean when you say St. Pats has a high opinion of itself?

I mean that St Pats tries to position itself as one of the fancy schools in the area, but it's just a regular Christian Bros with average sporting and academic achievements. And everyone likes beating them in any endeavour possible.

Shame they don't play League anymore; there's so much energy wasted in schoolboy rugby, that has no long term purpose within the 4th-ranked dying football code. You've got all these kids in ISA / CAS / GPS schools, the latter with their faux exclusivity and horrendous school fees, plying away at rugby to then play Shute Shield or maybe jag some pointless Super Rugby spot, until the powers close a franchise down.


For these schools, Rugby is not the end game, the business networks and contacts are the real game, Rugby is the ticket for entry.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103394) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103345) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103326) said:
Joey can get exposed defensively ...can get very lazy defending a blind side

Just watch the winning try from the grand final last season it’s a prime example


Dont just follow along because Andrew Johns says so. The reason BJ was slow to get back in the line is he saved a try the tackle before with a great legs tackle which unfortunately means a fast ptb. I blame Rapana & Sezer for taht last try.

I blame the ref
The 6 again call killed the game IMO
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103402) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?

We are an NRL club and have cash/opportunities available. I do not think it is necessary to expand on this fact. However, if you need to ask that question, the situation at WTs must be dire indeed. Is this so?

Also, JL is being let go by the Raiders. With Scott aboard, the Raiders are a much stronger outfit. Why didn't we go after Scott? I know he has issues but with maturity comes improved off field behaviour.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103403) said:
@bbobb said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103344) said:
What do you mean when you say St. Pats has a high opinion of itself?

I mean that St Pats tries to position itself as one of the fancy schools in the area, but it's just a regular Christian Bros with average sporting and academic achievements. And everyone likes beating them in any endeavour possible.

Shame they don't play League anymore; there's so much energy wasted in schoolboy rugby, that has no long term purpose within the 4th-ranked dying football code. You've got all these kids in ISA / CAS / GPS schools, the latter with their faux exclusivity and horrendous school fees, plying away at rugby to then play Shute Shield or maybe jag some pointless Super Rugby spot, until the powers close a franchise down.

Just to add to your story. In the 1960s my older brother went to St Pats but my parents sent to DLS Ashfield because my brother got expelled and they thought his reputation might make things awkward for me. We played league against Pats in the MCC competition. They were a pretty good league school on par with the other MCC heavies Lewisham, Kogarah and Randwick. Pats lefts the MCC and switched to rugby because they decided they wanted to join the GPS schools competition. They didn't make it because the GPS schools froze them out. Since then they've moved between competitions such as ISA but have never really found a home.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103402) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?

Well we hadn't wasted 3 weeks waiting like lap dogs for the scraps off Latrells plate we could have done a lot of things
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103407) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103402) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?

We are an NRL club and have ***cash/opportunities available***. I do not think it is necessary to expand on this fact. However, if you need to ask that question, the situation at WTs must be dire indeed. Is this so?

I dont think things are dire at the Tigers but I think we need to take opportunities available. My question was in response to Happy saying we can do better with the money available.. You say we have cash and ***opportunities*** available.

We are 8 weeks out from the start of the season, other teams squads are set, Ill repeat and expand my question, now to you and Happy.

8 weeks out from the start of the season, with other teams squads set for 2020, who is better to spen
d our cash on for 2020 than BJ?

Also, JL is being let go by the Raiders. With Scott aboard, the Raiders are a much stronger outfit. Why didn't we go after Scott? I know he has issues but with maturity comes improved off field behaviour.

Yet to be seen if Raiders are stronger with SCott than BJ. They havent played a game yet.
Who is to say if WT did or didnt go after Scott? We may have but his $$$ may have been too high. If it ends up a bidding war and we get BJ for a few $100K cheaper than Scott who does have issues...that would be a massive win for Tigers.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103414) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103402) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?

Well we hadn't wasted 3 weeks waiting like lap dogs for the scraps off Latrells plate we could have done a lot of things


Again.....like what? Who did we miss out on that we wanted?

IF...(massive if) we ended up with Doueihi and BJ that would be a nice result out of the LM circus.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103416) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103414) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103402) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?

Well we hadn't wasted 3 weeks waiting like lap dogs for the scraps off Latrells plate we could have done a lot of things


Again.....like what? Who did we miss out on that we wanted?

IF...(massive if) we ended up with Doueihi and BJ that would be a nice result out of the LM circus.

Cover two spots we are direly short on with with serviceable talent. The only hole after that is hooker which I don't see us racing out to cover.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103416) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103414) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103402) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103401) said:
Yeah he is an upgrade but could we do better with the money we have spare ...


Really? Who?

Well we hadn't wasted 3 weeks waiting like lap dogs for the scraps off Latrells plate we could have done a lot of things


Again.....like what? Who did we miss out on that we wanted?

Well as we have learnt in the last few years everyone is on the market

Joseph Manu Billy Smith
..any centre really

My problem with Joey is he needs to be in the right head space to play well
...he is not the sort of player you know will show up every week and perform well
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103237) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103234) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103232) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103215) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1103203) said:
This is the last time I get my hopes up from a rumoured signing. If Doueihi isn't signed tomorrow I'll lose it.


For Doueihi?

Ill be more annoyed if signing Doueihi prevents signing BJ

Signing BJ does not address the issue of a chronic lack of pace.


Agreed but the reason we want pace is to enable line breaks/score tries. BJ clearly addresses the issue of breaking the line/scoring tries.

Particularly if our pack improves as we hope. Sometimes to me when we are in the oppositions 20 is when we look least likely to score. IMO BJ will certainly help there.

We can break the line ok, but it is worthless because Nofoaluma and Jennings do not have the pace to finish. If we don't sign pacey players this off season, our recruitment has been a disaster.

Disagree. I think our recruitment so far has been astute. No panic buying and making sure those that have been recruited want to be here. I think they have done an outstanding job so far. We still have money and places that can be filled and the season hasn’t started yet.
 

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