Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110170) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110168) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110165) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110163) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110153) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110123) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110117) said:
If Reynolds sacked or stood down will be more


How can we get cap relief if his court case is this year? If he gets off, he gets paid.

If the NRL stands him down should be able to get cap relief to replace him in the top 30. If he is sacked tigers aren’t obliged to pay him a thing even if found not guilty.


if the NRL stands him down on "no fault" and he is cleared he will get paid in full. how can we get cap relief, spend it on someone else and then double pay it when we pay Reynolds. I cant see how this can work and I cant see us getting cap relief for him if he is "Stood down".

I also cant see how we could sack him with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

Just the fact he’s been charged by police is enough. And then the video. Conduct detriment to the profitability of the club is in every contract. Guilt or innocence isn’t a factor.

I thought the crime had to have a sentence of 12 years plus ....

And if we sack him we wear the cost unless we can prove he has breached his contract

I can’t be bothered with this. Honestly.

Just asking the question Woke ....they said the other night that assaulting an officer wasn't a 12 year plus sentence so the NRL can't invoke the no fault policy against Curtis Scott

Greenburg has discretion for crimes that fall under the 11 year limit, especially in cases involving women. That is why Dylan Walker was stood down under the policy!
 
@NT_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110014) said:
Its funny how the mood of this forum has changed from DOOM and GLOOM to SUNSHINE and RAINBOWS after a few signings.

Temporary dopamine rush... it will clear after we rack up a few losses this season.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110153) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110123) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110117) said:
If Reynolds sacked or stood down will be more


How can we get cap relief if his court case is this year? If he gets off, he gets paid.

If the NRL stands him down should be able to get cap relief to replace him in the top 30. If he is sacked tigers aren’t obliged to pay him a thing even if found not guilty.


if the NRL stands him down on "no fault" and he is cleared he will get paid in full. how can we get cap relief, spend it on someone else and then double pay it when we pay Reynolds. I cant see how this can work and I cant see us getting cap relief for him if he is "Stood down".

I also cant see how we could sack him with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

I'm pretty sure the Club is sticking by Reynolds and his version of events which were self reported to the NRL..I doubt they will sack him.

As per cap relief as pointed out by @Ponyo it is not a simple matter...the replacement must be like for like and the payment if approved comes from the Club not the salary cap allotment or NRL grant...

Not to many 5/8th's out there...could promote I guess..
 
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110200) said:
I had a dream last night we signed John Bateman from the raiders
Wouldn’t that rap up the week nicely

Can he kick goals ?
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110233) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110153) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110123) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110117) said:
If Reynolds sacked or stood down will be more


How can we get cap relief if his court case is this year? If he gets off, he gets paid.

If the NRL stands him down should be able to get cap relief to replace him in the top 30. If he is sacked tigers aren’t obliged to pay him a thing even if found not guilty.


if the NRL stands him down on "no fault" and he is cleared he will get paid in full. how can we get cap relief, spend it on someone else and then double pay it when we pay Reynolds. I cant see how this can work and I cant see us getting cap relief for him if he is "Stood down".

I also cant see how we could sack him with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

I'm pretty sure the Club is sticking by Reynolds and his version of events which were self reported to the NRL..I doubt they will sack him.

As per cap relief as pointed out by @Ponyo it is not a simple matter...the replacement must be like for like and the payment if approved comes from the Club not the salary cap allotment or NRL grant...

Not to many 5/8th's out there...could promote I guess..

So since Reynolds may have played hooker, promoting young Simpkins into the 30 as a replacement from his development contract could occur allowing the club to identify a replacement development player?
 
@Geo the log jam at the local courts
don't really help in this situation either.
I'm sure we'll have better clarity soon.

"Embattled NRL star Josh Reynolds’ solicitor has unleashed an extraordinary complaint about being on “trial by media” after the Wests Tigers player was charged with a domestic violence offence.

Reynolds faces a hearing in July after he pleaded not guilty to assault causing actual bodily harm against his former partner Arabella Del Busso at his Caringbah home.

However, his solicitor will attempt to reschedule the hearing to an earlier date at another court as the former NSW Origin player stands to miss most of the season if the NRL applies their no fault stand down rule to him.

Reynolds is one of countless defendants who will now be forced to attend Sutherland Local Court on February 7 for an unprecedented “super-callover”, where court staff will press prosecutors and defence lawyers to assess whether their matters can be expedited.

The court is suffering from a significant backlog, forcing defendants like Reynolds to wait several months to face a hearing.

Mr McGirr then complained about media interest in Reynolds’ criminal charge and blamed news reports for harming his career.

“Our client is a professional NRL footballer and is under heavy media scrutiny even with reports today which seem to try to conduct a ‘trial by media’ approach to these matters,” Mr McGirr wrote.

“Our client has suffered significant reputational damage through the media and has been dropped from his ambassador role with White Ribbon, a charity championing the cause of domestic violence sufferers, based on these media reports.”

Reynolds’ solicitor also said “lucrative sponsorships” and “future television presenting roles” were on the line for as long as the matter “drags on”.

“However, what is more pressing is that the NRL governing body has implemented a no fault stand down policy relating to matters such as these,” Mr McGirr wrote.

“What this effectively means is that our client could be stood down from partaking in his employment – playing for his team – until this matter is determined by the court.”

The registrar directed Reynolds’ solicitor to the Chief Magistrate’s Office to make a formal application for his hearing date to be reviewed if the “super-callover” outcome is not favourable.

The Chief Magistrate’s Office has ordered all defendants and their solicitors to attend Sutherland Local Court to establish whether their matters can be expedited.

“It is customary that between listing and hearing, a review is undertaken by the prosecution concerning the prospects of success in a matter,” the office wrote.

“Furthermore, negotiations occur between the defence and the prosecution which sometimes result in a shortening of procedures or even a withdrawal of matters.”

The court was already scheduling hearings for July last December due to their jam-packed calendar causing significant delays" -

Eliza Barr (St George Shire Standard)
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110239) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110233) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110153) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110123) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110117) said:
If Reynolds sacked or stood down will be more


How can we get cap relief if his court case is this year? If he gets off, he gets paid.

If the NRL stands him down should be able to get cap relief to replace him in the top 30. If he is sacked tigers aren’t obliged to pay him a thing even if found not guilty.


if the NRL stands him down on "no fault" and he is cleared he will get paid in full. how can we get cap relief, spend it on someone else and then double pay it when we pay Reynolds. I cant see how this can work and I cant see us getting cap relief for him if he is "Stood down".

I also cant see how we could sack him with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

I'm pretty sure the Club is sticking by Reynolds and his version of events which were self reported to the NRL..I doubt they will sack him.

As per cap relief as pointed out by @Ponyo it is not a simple matter...the replacement must be like for like and the payment if approved comes from the Club not the salary cap allotment or NRL grant...

Not to many 5/8th's out there...could promote I guess..

So since Reynolds may have played hooker, promoting young Simpkins into the 30 as a replacement from his development contract could occur allowing the club to identify a replacement development player?

Possibly...Young Simpkin can play NRL after June 30 without promotion tho..

I don't think they want to rush him at this stage..
 
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110108) said:
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1109827) said:
@Tweed_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1109825) said:
Wonder how much cash we have left for the final spot.

Curly Tiger has it around $350k

Still around 600k

Would be good if it's true, esp in the hunt for JAC

Can you have a look at my post by player and let me know where you think it might be off? Appreciate any light you might be able to shed on this

Thanks
 
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110244) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110239) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110233) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110153) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110127) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110123) said:
@wokesmoke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110117) said:
If Reynolds sacked or stood down will be more


How can we get cap relief if his court case is this year? If he gets off, he gets paid.

If the NRL stands him down should be able to get cap relief to replace him in the top 30. If he is sacked tigers aren’t obliged to pay him a thing even if found not guilty.


if the NRL stands him down on "no fault" and he is cleared he will get paid in full. how can we get cap relief, spend it on someone else and then double pay it when we pay Reynolds. I cant see how this can work and I cant see us getting cap relief for him if he is "Stood down".

I also cant see how we could sack him with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing.

I'm pretty sure the Club is sticking by Reynolds and his version of events which were self reported to the NRL..I doubt they will sack him.

As per cap relief as pointed out by @Ponyo it is not a simple matter...the replacement must be like for like and the payment if approved comes from the Club not the salary cap allotment or NRL grant...

Not to many 5/8th's out there...could promote I guess..

So since Reynolds may have played hooker, promoting young Simpkins into the 30 as a replacement from his development contract could occur allowing the club to identify a replacement development player?

Possibly...Young Simpkin can play NRL after June 30 without promotion tho..

I don't think they want to rush him at this stage..

Thanks.
 
@Ponyo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110242) said:
@Geo the log jam at the local courts
don’t really help in this situation either.
I’m sure we’ll have better clarity soon.

Agreed....

At this stage though Reynolds has not been stood down by the NRL...

So it's all speculation ATM
 
How astute by the club, we could’ve ended up with a lazy, egomaniac for $1m with little left over in our cap, instead we get a top notch centre and a real up and comer with plenty of $$ space left over for a third good signing...our recruiting this year had been excellent
 
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110253) said:
How astute by the club, we could’ve ended up with a lazy, egomaniac for $1m with little left over in our cap, instead we get a top notch centre and a real up and comer with plenty of $$ space left over for a third good signing...our recruiting this year had been excellent

Things are looking up. I didn't have a lot of expectation for 2020 but really buzzing now. If we could somehow lock down JAC the backline would be firing:

Doueihi
Nofo
Leilua
Mbye/ Talau
JAC
 
@Roar_Power said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110257) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1110253) said:
How astute by the club, we could’ve ended up with a lazy, egomaniac for $1m with little left over in our cap, instead we get a top notch centre and a real up and comer with plenty of $$ space left over for a third good signing...our recruiting this year had been excellent

Things are looking up. I didn't have a lot of expectation for 2020 but really buzzing now. If we could somehow lock down JAC the backline would be firing:

Doueihi
Nofo
Leilua
Mbye/ Talau
JAC

Benji would finally have options
 

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