Stefano Utoikamanu #241

Need to offer Pole a good extension!!!
Exactly, cannot afford to lose him, especially of Stef leaves.

If he does leave, I don’t think it’s the end of the world. Our cap would be in all sorts going to a mill a year for him. I know props like him are hard to come by but hard nosed toilers with strong mental fortitude seem to work alright for the Dolphins 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Anyone who's worried should go back over this year and look at each game he's played.
Inconsistent , mainly rubbish, with a couple of good performances.
That's not worth crying about.
The best props like Collins, JWH, Haas tc. put in every week.
We just need an average big body who will do a job every week.
 
Guler and Sofa rotating with Pole and later in the year Herman is blooded and it's Stef who.
Get negotiating Richo.

Who knows Baby Huey Miller might even prove me wrong and add to the mix.
 
I think WTs are playing this well. His contract has stupid clauses in it thanks to our previous incompetent management that are out of our control. If Stef wants to go, then we can't do much about and we can't wait around like desperate sloppy seconds either. Stef will probably go by the sound of it but I'm certainly not going to loose sleep over it.
 
I think with the juniors we have coming through and the players we have now I don't think we need to panic to sign a player to replace Stef I think we can wait out for the right player to come available like I think we should only be going for representative level players
 
Paying Stefano close to 1 mil/yr would be a suicide mission. He’s not even close to that worth. I could name a whole list of front rowers and he wouldn’t be in the Top 20. We need forwards that make over 180m consistently not be a one hit wonder every 5 games. You could get better English Forwards with higher workrate and endurance for a quarter of the price. Here’s a list of front rowers that rank higher than Stefano:

1. Payne Haas
2. Tino F
3. AFB
4. Lindsay Collins
5. Joseph Tapine
6. JFH
7. Reuben Cotter
8. Terrell May
9. Spencer Leniu
10. Mo Fotuiaka
11. Moses Leota
12. Tui Kami


List goes on… (Note: no particular order)

Fleggler as well . I would put Stef 💯 at around 15 . Form dependant he could move up to 10 ish , but no higher at least not at the moment .
Like I said before , he just isn’t work that much . But some teams are desperate for middles .
Terrell May becoming something this year , after years of toiling in reserve grade , is more like bargain bin shopping than big spending . He was here a few years ago , and wasn’t exactly stellar in his performances .
Whilst that was astute , it’s not exactly modus operende for the roosters .
They have a million edge back rowers though .
They will pay him what he wants . But for us , that would not be wise .
 
These key figures and data, from articles dated February 2024 and April 2022, show significant changes in player salaries and positional values in rugby league. It's also highlighted that teams allocate a third of their cap toward middle forwards.

PROPS
Top 5
Average salary = $845,860
Median salary = $818,800
A decade ago Wayne Bennett declared a front-rower should never be paid more than $300,000 a year. A lot can change in 10 years.


The front row position is now considered the third most valuable of all roles in the game, well ahead of spine positions like hooker and five-eighth.

Tevita Pangai Jr is enjoying two salaries from the Bulldogs ($750,000) and Brisbane ($175,000).


Momentum is more critical than ever before under rules that can swing yardage battles and possession dramatically.

The common rugby league consensus is that, like halfbacks, props take longer than most to mature and grow into their game.

Data analysis by The Rugby League Eye Test a few years ago pegged a middle forward’s statistical peak toward the age of 27, with less drop off in output between 27 and 30 than other positions.

Roster analysis, provided to this masthead by one of the game’s premiership heavyweights, estimates that roughly one third of a club’s salary cap is spent on middle forwards – amounting to almost $3.4 million of an $11.25 million base salary cap.

For props though, the top five clocked an average wage of $841,316. Front-rowers ranked 16-20 came in at $472,606, a significantly smaller slide of 44 per cent.

NRL clubs need more front-rowers to function, and those front-rowers need more time to develop to the highest level. But right now, there’s a gap in the supply.

 
The comments he has made about wanting to play in a winning side, ring plenty of alarm bells with me. Sounds like he wants to win by relying on his teammates doing it for him. Not comments made by a leader. Entitled attitude which shows no loyalty to the club or his mates. He’s as good as gone.
 

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