Taking a wrecking ball to the club! (Recent Media Reports)

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hammertime said:
But aimed at me?

I've mentioned numerous times that Balmain should be off the board. Including years ago when they made dumb decisions around Rozelle and went bankrupt.

What more do you want? My butt tattooed with a HBG logo?
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Yep, aimed squarely at you. No, just accept the pronouncements by Richo et al with grace and reserve judgement unless they fail to deliver and then, by all means, go for them.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Emotion and Context is the key.

The petition has over 1000 people within a week or so, that’s not a small amount of people. All are passionate about it no doubt just like many at the top.

The timing that has driven those 1000+ people to sign it is key.

It’s been 12mths or so since the last one, but the last few months have been brutal - we have our best signing period and have good news stories and then bang - the amount of media articles that has been dished up negatively mixed with our worst performance across the park in all grades, mixed with silence from the owners side was at some stage going to see something happen. Add to this we are still in a holding pattern until formal appointments and well some fans are just fed up with it all and reacted again.

I know appointments take time, are confidential, occur behind closed doors and alot of effort goes into the changes that are occurring better than most. It’s more than just recruiting. That’s how a true business operates.

The challenge our club has is because of the history and the media spinning revenue stream mixed with no information and staying quite mixed with how long activities are occurring - in today’s digital age eats away at people.

If the owners are viewing it as spiteful, then to me it indicates they’re not reading the room & need to take a step back breathe and then take control which is what Richo has done.
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I’ll take it a step further, if the owners didn’t expect a fan reaction in the midst of three wooden spoons and at a time when the ownership Board was turning on itself and creating more pain, they must be brain dead.
 
hammertime said:
Dude. Gallagher asked what evidence there was that someone wanted to undermine the initial review. That's the evidence. That's all. I also believe the majority all want to achieve the same goal and Richo was just deliberate in some words to ensure he set it up for conclusion.

But I'm happy with the statement the other day. Simon Cook was great. If it goes through, and WT becomes separated, we can stop all this.

However, I hope that HBG will take the initiative to fix its governance. Not under any petition or anything, but just because it's the right thing to do. It's not a good structure.

.. and you want to talk balmain again like everyone seems to? Go read my prior posts. I couldn't be clearer.
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Yeh, you could.
 
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coivtny said:
Yep, aimed squarely at you. No, just accept the pronouncements by Richo et al with grace and reserve judgement unless they fail to deliver and then, by all means, go for them.
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That means I'm pro-Balmain? Oh dear man. Thats some serious mental gymnastics from you.

I work in a very political organisation. If I don't read between the lines, I wouldn't do my job well. It's up to you to hear what you want. But don't attack the man, play the ball.
 
hammertime said:
That means I'm pro-Balmain? Oh dear man. Thats some serious mental gymnastics from you.

I work in a very political organisation. If I don't read between the lines, I wouldn't do my job well. It's up to you to hear what you want. But don't attack the man, play the ball.
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Seriously. I worked direct to very powerful politicians so don't play that card. I can't explain the anti-HBG hysteria without reference back to Balmain's failure. I might be wrong in your case but that sentiment exists on this forum. I went to a school where the 3 teams supported were Wests, Balmain and Canterbury. A lot of my mates are ex-Balmain and some are on this forum. They hate Wests Ashfield with a passion and reminded me plenty of times in the early years how Balmain carried Wests, and they did. When roles reversed they became very bitter indeed.
 
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Mighty_Tiger said:
It’s the impact of an experience leader and someone who has transformed organizations before.

HBG/Board have copped alot and rightly so but at the sametime they should also be recognized for the good decisions they have made - Richo at this stage looks like being one of those.

If we get the right structure and governance established I don’t see why we won’t be successful.

Richo just knows how to lead.
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Richo Im pretty sure was hired as a result of the recommendations of the review. The HBG board approached him, without being recommended in the review I'm not sure the boardroom would have had enough sense to approach him
 
coivtny said:
It's not aimed at you either. Why are you being defensive? My point is that even after Richo et al coming out and saying it's all going to happen the naysayers and anti-HBG group are saying they're lying, don't like their body language etc. They don't like HBG because they survived and thrived while Balmain died. Just get over it like you tell the Magpies to get over it. On the last point, I agree with you. Explain how it's hypocrisy or insane and I'll resign from the forum tonight.
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It’s hypocrisy because you cry and moan about the Magpies being disrespected then go on to take shots at Balmain.

It’s insane because there’s a few select people here who blow up about supposed favouritism shown by forum members to Balmain. Then when those forum members and petition signers actually bag Balmain, their words are dismissed, they’re called liars and the narrative is they want to destroy Wests Tigers to bring Balmain back.

I mean every argument or statement is turned into this anti-Magpies, pro-Balmain takeover conspiracy when we’re all saying we just want the Wests Tigers to succeed.

Do you know how batshit crazy that is?

Also just so you know I’m a Wests Tigers supporter not a Balmain supporter. Balmain played their last game when I was 7 so I barely remember them if I’m being honest.
 
Spartan117 said:
Do you honestly think anyone would start supporting the Magpies???

Honestly....

Time to drop this crap.

We are on the verge of success finally.

We are Wests Tigers.
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roll back over Magic's n my banter to get a true reflection on the sentence you replied to.I could be wrong he does a stick to truth,i do a dont give a toss,think we are both totally supportive of WT,yet when heads hurt with some of the rubbish posted about the subject,i certainly like to tease some
 
liltiger said:
Richo Im pretty sure was hired as a result of the recommendations of the review. The HBG board approached him, without being recommended in the review I'm not sure the boardroom would have had enough sense to approach him
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Yeah Julie Romero’s leaked email from December 2023 actually raised that Hagipantelis and Pascoe shouldn’t have been scrutinised.

From memory it was also critical of Richo being approached.

If anything this shows she was satisfied with leadership and performance under those two muppets.
 
coivtny said:
Seriously. I worked direct to very powerful politicians so don't play that card. I can't explain the anti-HBG hysteria without reference back to Balmain's failure. I might be wrong in your case but that sentiment exists on this forum. I went to a school where the 3 teams supported were Wests, Balmain and Canterbury. A lot of my mates are ex-Balmain and some are on this forum. They hate Wests Ashfield with a passion and reminded me plenty of times in the early years how Balmain carried Wests, and they did. When roles reversed they became very bitter indeed.
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As I said on a previous comment, HBG is Balmain. It's more Balmain than Balmain now. They are jointly named after a Tigers and Magpies great and they fund a lot of the Balmain groups.

They are the path we need to get to. Where we are 1 team. Piss balmain off - not sure how many times I need to say it without still being called pro-balmain. I feel like a broken record.

HBG should be the only club based board seat we have in my opinion. They are where we need to get to. But to do that, we need to be secure in good governance.

If you work in politics, then great. I think you should be able to see my interpretation of the conference then. If HBD had been smooth sailing till now, then sure. I wouldn't question it. But they haven't been, so I am. There are several observations I could bring up, but I do not want to.

We must give HBG the chance to complete the review.
 
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coivtny said:
Seriously. I worked direct to very powerful politicians so don't play that card. I can't explain the anti-HBG hysteria without reference back to Balmain's failure. I might be wrong in your case but that sentiment exists on this forum. I went to a school where the 3 teams supported were Wests, Balmain and Canterbury. A lot of my mates are ex-Balmain and some are on this forum. They hate Wests Ashfield with a passion and reminded me plenty of times in the early years how Balmain carried Wests, and they did. When roles reversed they became very bitter indeed.
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The issues raised about HBG are raised because of the abject and utter failure they’ve been when in charge of the Wests Tigers.

They turned the Tigers from a 9th placed laughing stock into an embarrassing, abysmal, pity inducing, shamble that culminated in three straight spoons. This put us in the esteemed company alongside the Knights and Sydney Uni as the only other teams since 1908 to win three or more consecutive wooden spoons.

HBG majority boards allowed Pascoe to fudge membership numbers, saw Taylor, Cleary, Madge and Sheens sacked. Replaced Madge with Kimmorley who had t coached in five years or so, and allowed Hagipantelis to basically use the club as his personal media platform making us a complete and utter joke.

Since then, there’s been backroom squabbling, Julie Romero’s concerning directions to the Wests Tigers board, unexplained delays to the review implementation

On top of that they’ve changed their rep on the Wests Tigers from Gilbert who’s far and away the most competent HBG board member to Dennis Burgess, who’s greatest accomplishment was being in a band in the 60s. How this qualities him to be on the Wests Tigers board is beyond me.

That is why people have issues with HBG. Not because of some saltiness they are now majority owners of the club.
 
hammertime said:
As I said on a previous comment, HBG is Balmain. It's more Balmain than Balmain now. They are jointly named after a Tigers and Magpies great and they fund a lot of the Balmain groups.

They are the path we need to get to. Where we are 1 team. Piss balmain off - not sure how many times I need to say it without still being called pro-balmain. I feel like a broken record.

HBG should be the only board seat we have in my opinion. They are where we need to get to. But to do that, we need to be secure in good governance.

If you work in politics, then great. I think you should be able to see my interpretation of the conference then. If HBD had been smooth sailing till now, then sure. I wouldn't question it. But they haven't been, so I am. There are several observations I could bring up, but I do not want to.

We must give HBG the chance to complete the review.
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Mate you just want Balmain back.
 
twentyforty said:
I think it does have impact on Wests Tigers. When the leadership group is disrespectful of the role they play in strengthening the organisation’s culture it encourages a similar behaviour throughout. Particularly when they call themselves owners.
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Surely that is just an opinion though. Those guys may well have deserved their sanctions.
 
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hammertime said:
1) The delay in implementation of the review
2) Tony A, the key driver of the review, being ousted as chair
3) Dennis and Stephen being placed on the WT board without reason.
4) The 3 supporters of the review being banned from the club under dubious circumstances
5) The comments from Rick Wayde.

Richo crafted his words very carefully. I heard him in a different way to how you did I think...
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All good Hammer. I don't like Stapleton and Burgess there aswell. Other than that I think it's all been heading in the right direction since the 2 clowns got dumped.
I think we have got what we're all after.
 
gallagher said:
This all originated from the podcasters. They went to the media with it, gave Wayde his platform. It was literally their BS that Richo was refuting. How could you think he wasn't referring to them aswell at the others?
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I don’t see it.
I can see him pushing Romero and Cook to front up.
He does, and says, what he needs to fix the joint.
 
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