Taylor..Injuries could've been Prevented...

[TrueTiger]

Snap,I couldn't agree more with your comments…

Identifying a problem or problem area...is the first step to a solution..

JT is doing a great job so far although there is a long way to go,I have much more confidence in the team and club with all the new changes that are happening right across the board...cheers...

 

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

Say it at the end of the season if all goes well. Saying it now he might just end up with some egg on his face ( I hope not).

Whether or not the Tigers manage to get on top of their conditioning and rehab this year, the fact remains that we have had the worst program in the competition. It's good to hear a coach actually acknowledge the elephant in the room. It will be even better if they can turn it around in 2015, but admitting the problem is an important first step.

 

[Snapper]

Snap,I couldn't agree more with your comments…

Identifying a problem or problem area...is the first step to a solution..

JT is doing a great job so far although there is a long way to go,I have much more confidence in the team and club with all the new changes that are happening right across the board...cheers...

Yeah deathly a step in the right direction.

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[happy_tiger]

I find these comments very interesting.

Impact injuries can not really be avoided. Twisting injuries are very difficult to prevent. They would make up a lot of our injuries.

There is usually questions marks if a side has a lot of Soft tissue injuries. We didnt have too many of those.

JT said something about strengthening in the right areas. maybe this can help with some twisting injuries. Something Ive never come across

That said, most sides go through periods with alot of injuries, look at the broncos now, and they would definitely have a high standard S & C and rehab program.

When injuries come up, Im always reminded of Bennett's famous quote "The human body isnt designed to play rugby league."

Yep and from Lawrence's articles, you could see that many of the recurring injuries were due to rushing a player back onto the field- which is usually due to a lack of depth.

Many injuries aren't preventable- they happen but where we lacked was the management of the injuries.

Look at the injuries we had:

- Tedesco and moltz fractured patella (collision)
- moltz, teddy and noffa (acl) ligament ( twisting)
- farah (elbow dislocation) (collision)

These were the injuries that impacted our season/s the most IMO.

However, in saying that Richards (groin) brooks (shoulder), gavet, Simona (hammies) are soft tissue injuries which might have been prevented through extra S&c. A counter argument to that is gavet seemed lethargic in rehab while brooks was bound to break down playing full season at 18/19.

Yes, the s&c dept was inept afaik but they can't be blamed for everything.

As for Lote, I don't think better training facilities made him better, I think it was the rehab (farah bro) which is one of the best in the nrl.

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Prmz , Moltz literally just collapsed with his knee it was in non contact work

 

[tig_prmz]

phil moss was the director of football operations at panthers and panthers werent much better injury wise than us last year.

 

[Sabre]

phil moss was the director of football operations at panthers and panthers werent much better injury wise than us last year.

Injury prevention and recovery is about as much Phil Moss' job as the guys working in the merchandise shop.

 

[Guest]

Grant Mayer said that 2 of the 4 medical/conditioning staff weren't properly qualified. We were the ONLY team in the NRL to have this!!!

It was beyond a joke and completely amateurish. Thank god Taylor has cleaned that side up.

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Indeed. If we keep injuries to a minimum and keep the spine on the field, we'll give the 8 a shake for sure.

 

[foreveratiger]

Wonder what JT will say about his staff if injuries start happening this year ?

There is that much more wrestle in a tackle and twisting , injuries a bound to happen IMO

 

[Masterton]

Yep and from Lawrence's articles, you could see that many of the recurring injuries were due to rushing a player back onto the field- which is usually due to a lack of depth.

Many injuries aren't preventable- they happen but where we lacked was the management of the injuries.

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It's true that we have to handle our injuries and rehab better, but after we went over the 2nd tier cap last year, sometimes we had to play an injured player or have a forward playing as an outside back.

Personally, I agree with Taylor but I believe it's in poor taste to continually bag the former staff. You come across like some **** politician always blaming the other mob.

 

[Angry_Tiger_1]

I can't believe that it has taken this long for someone to address this issue within the club.

My sentiments exactly, and if he is taking the same approach to the clubs poor culture in defence, then I may just be the happiest man alive.

 

[foreveratiger]

I can't believe that it has taken this long for someone to address this issue within the club.

My sentiments exactly, and if he is taking the same approach to the clubs poor culture in defence, then I may just be the happiest man alive.

Yeah agreed , i think we have always had a strong en fuses on our Attack and have lost our way in Defence over the years .

Very positive to hold Parra to 0 points till the 70th minute , when you consider 1st hit out in that Heat up North , TOP EFFORT !!!

 

[guyofthetiger]

Anyone else feel for Skando with articles like this? I don't seen any real benefits in these articles, all they do is sink the boot into a club legend. Just get on with job and see if your new boys fix the problem Jason

No, I don't.
People need to know their limits and because they offered one thing doesn't mean they can offer another as a result.
**The guy had no experience and no suitable qualifications for the role, and nor did Luke; merely lowest level/baseline TAFE certificates.**
This article is music to my ears.
Now we compete.
Now we have a chance to win.
As a footballer, I'd never have a bad word to say about Skando, but in this regard, he put himself out there as up to it, and he wasn't, so he's open to this kind of criticism.
Like any of us in what we do.

Interested to find out how you know their quals.
Which TAFEs did they attand, when…what courses did they do?

There was a thread on S & C mid to late last year where this was discussed at length. Luke Portese, as the most qualified had a Level 1 ASCA qualification, which is extremely basic, and Skando was his understudy.

The number 1 ASCA man in the NRL, as I understand it, from the Broncos, runs the benchmark Level 3 course.

Check the Australian Strength and Conditioning Association website for the difference between a Level 1 and 3 qual and you'll get a picture of how far behind we've been (e.g., the difference in understanding of injury prevention).

 

[Geo]

We have come a long way from the 'Magic' sponge and Ice spray…

 

[guyofthetiger]

Of course many injuries come down to luck, but a measure of professionalism is surely having the best possible personnel and procedures to control what you can

 

[happy_tiger]

We have come a long way from the 'Magic' sponge and Ice spray…

We had far less injuries when we had the magic sponge and the ice spray

Probably because of all the harden the flick up in magic sponge

 

[851]

As people have said,injuries will happen,it is what happens from that time that has been our biggest problem,JT is addressing this and it is about time too.

 

[LaT]

Look at our injury toll the last couple of yrs, then look at Souths, then ask yourselves if its luck. You can count on one hand the amount of serious injuries they've had. Its not exactly a coincidence that we couldn't keep Lote on the field in 2011/12/13, and then goes to Souths last yr and plays nearly every game. The bad luck excuse was just a cop out from a S/C team that were both clearly inept and covering their own arse in the process.

Lote did look healthy and fit and had a spring in his step, when he played for the Bunnies. While playing for us, he always seemed to be playing injured. Always heavily bandaged too. Just didn't look fit to me. Such a contrast! You got a point there GNR.

Lote didn't play 1st grade from round 4 to 14\. Thats a fair stretch.

 

[Eddie]

This is the one thing that worries me about Taylor.

No doubt he is right. He is a very shrewd guy. He has done a fantastic job getting us a proper team in this area to best deal with the problem.

However sometimes I think he is too bullish for his own good. The NRl has bitten him on the arse a couple of times already and if he can't mana manage it will again in time.

He has taken a few pot shots at Sheens and Potter with the way he described our defensive structure. Noe he is taking pot shots at SKando and co. YES he is 100% right in the stuff he is saying. Howevr does he need to say it at all.

He have the potential to be quite abrasive if things are not working out or if there is a question he does not like. This club tests you all the time and I am sure he will find out in time.

Like I said I think he is a very shrewd coach who is one of the sharpest minds in the game. However if he can't deal with the media, or the players lose respect for him, you can be the smartest guy in the world and it won't work for you.

I just hope he has learnt some lessons. We will learn more about him when we lose rather then when we win. Im happy we picked him as coach but the initial reservations remain.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Quote 'Eddie' "This is the one thing that worries me about Taylor."
Yep, the same thought crossed my mind when I read the article. Well said.

 

[stevetiger]

However sometimes I think he is too bullish for his own good.

He doesn't have much if any class at all does he. If we win games great but a lot of what he is stating is easy to say but much harder to get right.