Taylor..Injuries could've been Prevented...

[innsaneink]

Anyone else feel for Skando with articles like this? I don't seen any real benefits in these articles, all they do is sink the boot into a club legend. Just get on with job and see if your new boys fix the problem Jason

No, I don't.
People need to know their limits and because they offered one thing doesn't mean they can offer another as a result.
**The guy had no experience and no suitable qualifications for the role, and nor did Luke; merely lowest level/baseline TAFE certificates.**
This article is music to my ears.
Now we compete.
Now we have a chance to win.
As a footballer, I'd never have a bad word to say about Skando, but in this regard, he put himself out there as up to it, and he wasn't, so he's open to this kind of criticism.
Like any of us in what we do.

Interested to find out how you know their quals.
Which TAFEs did they attand, when…what courses did they do?

 

[Snapper]

WEEKEND CASUALTY WARD:

Kyle Turner (Concussion/neck, TBA)

Kieran Foran (Concussion, Final trial)

Josh Hoffman (Leg, Final trial)

Jaelen Feeney (Suspected broken arm, TBA)

Pat Mata’utia (Suspected broken leg, TBA)

I personally believe you cannot point the finger at one particular reason why we get so many injuries.
Being professional deafly does help. And there is an element of luck involved.
Wests Tigers lacked in depth which gave a greater impact on our performance.

Eg: BRONCOS

Brisbane’s season did not start the way Wayne Bennett would have wanted after losing his star fullback prior to Christmas with an achilles injury. Darius Boyd had surgery in early December after rupturing a tendon during training and is expected to return to the field as early as May. Sam Thaiday was withdrawn from the Indigenous All Stars side due to a calf injury but has since trained and is expected to return for the World Club Series. Matt Gillett, Corey Oates, Dale Copley, Jarrod Wallace, David Stagg and Jack Reed all had shoulder reconstructions over the off-season. None will be risked in the World Club Series, with each set to be given game time in the final trial.

Darius Boyd (Achilles, Indefinite)

Jack Reed (Shoulder, Final trial)

Dale Copley (Shoulder, Final trial)

Matt Gillett (Shoulder, Final trial)

David Stagg (Shoulder, Final trial)

Corey Oates (Shoulder, Final trial)

Jarrod Wallace (Shoulder, Final trial)

Sam Thaiday (Calf, World Club Series)

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[Tigermama]

Anyone else feel for Skando with articles like this? I don't seen any real benefits in these articles, all they do is sink the boot into a club legend. Just get on with job and see if your new boys fix the problem Jason

No, I don't.
People need to know their limits and because they offered one thing doesn't mean they can offer another as a result.
The guy had no experience and no suitable qualifications for the role, and nor did Luke; merely lowest level/baseline TAFE certificates.
This article is music to my ears.
Now we compete.
Now we have a chance to win.
As a footballer, I'd never have a bad word to say about Skando, but in this regard, he put himself out there as up to it, and he wasn't, so he's open to this kind of criticism.
Like any of us in what we do.

Good post. 100% agree.

 

[king_sirro]

Anyone else feel for Skando with articles like this? I don't seen any real benefits in these articles, all they do is sink the boot into a club legend. Just get on with job and see if your new boys fix the problem Jason

Actually no….I appreciate JT telling it like it is!
He's being honest in his opinion. And that is so refreshing to hear.

I don't feel he's having a go at Skando at all, more at our former management.

He said it when he took over. It's not refreshing if keep saying the same thing. That's the point I'm making, why go over it again when it makes a club legend look bad. He said it once, thats fair enough, why say it again

 

[NT_Tiger]

I completely understand why the changes were made and support JT with those decisions. I also have no problem with him talking about it in the media, but I think it was unnecessary to mention individuals by name.

 

[happy_tiger]

If memory serves JT held the record for most games played consecutively at one stage until it was recently beaten

 

[tig_prmz]

Lol as if luck wasn't involved with the injuries. Yeh some injuries could've been prevented- but when you have 100kg blockes running full pace at each other, I would say there is a bigger element of luck involved than given credit for.

Agree with KS, re skando. He was put into or applied for a job that he wasn't qualified for- same as johnny Morris playing halfback. Different skill sets but skando doesn't seem like a man who would've done his job half heartedly.

It's good that Taylor is recognising the problems and trying to solve them- but tbh these articles aren't serving much purpose other than sink the boot into the previous management- some of which is still at the club. I respected potter as a person and afaik he always talked highly of sheens and every one else at the club- current or ex.

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[cunno]

Lol as if luck wasn't involved with the injuries. Yeh some injuries could've been prevented- but when you have 100kg blockes running full pace at each other, I would say there is a bigger element of luck involved than given credit for.

Agree with KS, re skando. He was put into or applied for a job that he wasn't qualified for- same as johnny Morris playing halfback. Different skill sets but skando doesn't seem like a man who would've done his job half heartedly.

It's good that Taylor is recognising the problems and trying to solve them- but tbh these articles aren't serving much purpose other than sink the boot into the previous management- some of which is still at the club. I respected potter as a person and afaik he always talked highly of sheens and every one else at the club- current or ex.

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By all accounts, Potter a man of fine character.

 

[Goose]

I find these comments very interesting.

Impact injuries can not really be avoided. Twisting injuries are very difficult to prevent. They would make up a lot of our injuries.

There is usually questions marks if a side has a lot of Soft tissue injuries. We didnt have too many of those.

JT said something about strengthening in the right areas. maybe this can help with some twisting injuries. Something Ive never come across

That said, most sides go through periods with alot of injuries, look at the broncos now, and they would definitely have a high standard S & C and rehab program.

When injuries come up, Im always reminded of Bennett's famous quote "The human body isnt designed to play rugby league."

 

[pHyR3]

pretty sure some dumbarses last year were arguing on this forum that it was all bad luck :laughing:

Some were

How often do you see two blokes collide at full speed knee on knee ??

Liam's collision with Tedesco v the Saints Rd 1 ??

some were. most weren't. soft tissue can usually be prevented, either through additional rehab/rest or through better preparation preseason.

precisely what JT is saying

dunno if you caught the members meeting thing last week but they went over how poorly players were being treated. continually asked to play while injured (e.g. chris lawrence) which meant they could play well and they couldnt recover either.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Hopefully we also see an improvement of the length of time a player is on the sidelines and given some idea of the time frame. Dead set, the last couple yrs the club has been playing darts blindfolded in determining how long a player will be out. Usually what was considered a 2 week injury would more often than not become at minimum a 6 week injury

 

[happy_tiger]

WEEKEND CASUALTY WARD:

Kyle Turner (Concussion/neck, TBA)

Kieran Foran (Concussion, Final trial)

Josh Hoffman (Leg, Final trial)

Jaelen Feeney (Suspected broken arm, TBA)

Pat Mata’utia (Suspected broken leg, TBA)

I personally believe you cannot point the finger at one particular reason why we get so many injuries.
Being professional deafly does help. And there is an element of luck involved.
Wests Tigers lacked in depth which gave a greater impact on our performance.

Eg: BRONCOS

Brisbane’s season did not start the way Wayne Bennett would have wanted after losing his star fullback prior to Christmas with an achilles injury. Darius Boyd had surgery in early December after rupturing a tendon during training and is expected to return to the field as early as May. Sam Thaiday was withdrawn from the Indigenous All Stars side due to a calf injury but has since trained and is expected to return for the World Club Series. Matt Gillett, Corey Oates, Dale Copley, Jarrod Wallace, David Stagg and Jack Reed all had shoulder reconstructions over the off-season. None will be risked in the World Club Series, with each set to be given game time in the final trial.

Darius Boyd (Achilles, Indefinite)

Jack Reed (Shoulder, Final trial)

Dale Copley (Shoulder, Final trial)

Matt Gillett (Shoulder, Final trial)

David Stagg (Shoulder, Final trial)

Corey Oates (Shoulder, Final trial)

Jarrod Wallace (Shoulder, Final trial)

Sam Thaiday (Calf, World Club Series)

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How Gallen didn't get charged amazes me

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Lets hope that the new S&C reduces injuries, especially to our key players 😛ray:

 

[bonstonker]

Anyone else feel for Skando with articles like this? I don't seen any real benefits in these articles, all they do is sink the boot into a club legend. Just get on with job and see if your new boys fix the problem Jason

Actually no….I appreciate JT telling it like it is!
He's being honest in his opinion. And that is so refreshing to hear.

I don't feel he's having a go at Skando at all, more at our former management.

He said it when he took over. It's not refreshing if keep saying the same thing. That's the point I'm making, why go over it again when it makes a club legend look bad. He said it once, thats fair enough, why say it again

i agree

the question i have is,did he actually make more than one statement.
if he made this statement again during the member presentation,i find that fair enough.

this might just be another journo rehashing old news,which unfortunately for us fans,this about the only thing they are great at.

 

[851]

If memory serves JT held the record for most games played consecutively at one stage until it was recently beaten

That's right 194 games over 7 years I think, and it is still standing I think,so Taylor knows a bit about keeping his body right for the season or career for that matter.

 

[851]

double post

 

[jirskyr]

Say it at the end of the season if all goes well. Saying it now he might just end up with some egg on his face ( I hope not).

I'm with you EODT, first non-cliche response in this thread.

It is a MASSIVE call to say all our injuries could have been prevented when you've coached 1 x 80 minute pre-season game for the club. Taylor certainly has his ideas and I back him to have 100% control over the way we operate, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and judge him on an untested product.

Herald counts 54 missed games of which Moltzen contributed one quarter, and he got injured running drills at pre-season training.

I would love to see a count of the total missed games by club, to see where we really stand vs other teams. Personally I agree with some other posters, that it is a combination between some poor conditioning, some bad luck and ordinary depth.

 

[851]

double post

 

[GNR4LIFE]

If memory serves JT held the record for most games played consecutively at one stage until it was recently beaten

That's right 194 games over 7 years I think, and it is still standing I think,so Taylor knows a bit about keeping his body right for the season or career for that matter.

Luke Douglas broke the record. 215 games.

 

[magpiecol]

Lol as if luck wasn't involved with the injuries. Yeh some injuries could've been prevented- but when you have 100kg blockes running full pace at each other, I would say there is a bigger element of luck involved than given credit for.

Agree with KS, re skando. He was put into or applied for a job that he wasn't qualified for- same as johnny Morris playing halfback. Different skill sets but skando doesn't seem like a man who would've done his job half heartedly.

It's good that Taylor is recognising the problems and trying to solve them- but tbh these articles aren't serving much purpose other than sink the boot into the previous management- some of which is still at the club. I respected potter as a person and afaik he always talked highly of sheens and every one else at the club- current or ex.

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By all accounts, Potter a man of fine character.

And how did that work out?