Test Cricket Draft Game
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happy_tiger
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@Sabre said:
Basing mine on the fact you should be a good keeper first and a batsmen second at Test level
10 Healy
9 Boucher
8 Gilchrist
7 Sangakarra
6 Dhoni
5 Ahmed
4 Haddin
3 Stewart
2 De Villiers
1 McCullum
Healy was easily the best keeper and I still maintain that Warne stopped bowling certain deliveries because Gilchrist couldn't read them
happy_tiger
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@Sabre said:
Bit like another section , classing the best batsmen I've seen as a all rounder cost the person top points as a middle order batsmen
10 Kallis 2nd best all rounder of all time
9 Flintoff
8 Cairns
7 Imran Khan
6 Steve Waugh
5 Heath Streak
4 Abdul Razzaq
3 Carl Hooper
2 Andrew Symonds
1 Shakib al Hasan
happy_tiger
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The Top 5 of the quickies was easily the hardest vote
30 McGrath
29 Ambrose
28 Akram
27 Donald
26 Steyn
25 Walsh
24 Younis
23 Harris
22 Lee
21 Vaas
20 Gillespie
19 Khan
18 Srinath
17 Ntini
16 Johnson
15 Dev
14 MacDermott
13 Akhtar
12 Hughes
11 Broad
10 Sharma
9 Siddle
8 Fleming
7 Fraser
6 Morkel
5 Bishop
4 Caddick
3 Starc
2 Southee
1 Bond
30 McGrath
29 Ambrose
28 Akram
27 Donald
26 Steyn
25 Walsh
24 Younis
23 Harris
22 Lee
21 Vaas
20 Gillespie
19 Khan
18 Srinath
17 Ntini
16 Johnson
15 Dev
14 MacDermott
13 Akhtar
12 Hughes
11 Broad
10 Sharma
9 Siddle
8 Fleming
7 Fraser
6 Morkel
5 Bishop
4 Caddick
3 Starc
2 Southee
1 Bond
happy_tiger
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Lastly the spinners , still think Murali had a throw with some deliveries , but he was passed clear by the ICC officials
10 Muralideran
9 Kumble
8 H Singh
7 Vettori
6 Kaneria
5 Mushtaq
4 McGill
3 Herath
2 Lyon
1 Swann
10 Muralideran
9 Kumble
8 H Singh
7 Vettori
6 Kaneria
5 Mushtaq
4 McGill
3 Herath
2 Lyon
1 Swann
Tough pick with the all rounders. IMO an all rounder is someone who averages more than 35 with the bat and less than 35 with the ball. Just goes to show how few genuine all rounders have been around since the 90's.
**10\. Shaun Pollock** - William H. Macy aka Shaun Pollock is probably the best bowling allrounder I've seen. Took over 400 wickets @ 23 and averaged 32 with the bat. Was very handy for scoring a half ton late in the innings to top up the Saffa's total, or to pull them out of the proverbial.
**9\. Andrew Flintoff** - Averaging 32 with bat and ball, was always a handful for both us and the Saffas. Epic sledger as well, mind the windows Tino!
**8\. Chris Cairns** - Match fixing shenanigans aside, probably the only other genuine allrounder of the period with Freddy, Kallis and Pollock. Was a pain in the arse with the bat against us, but was rather ineffectual with the ball. Lifted for the Poms.
**7\. Steve Waugh** - I really would have liked to have rated Tugger higher as he was a brilliant captain and a brilliant bat as well as one of the most mentally hardened players I've seen, but didn't bowl often enough all the way through his career to justify an all rounder tag.
**6\. Heath Streak** - Only struggled against Australia and South Africa, a bit lean with the bat but still scored a ton and a dozen 50's and he averaged 28 with the ball. 216 wickets in 65 Tests isn't a bad effort.
**5\. Shakib Al Hasan** - Still has to prove himself against the top tier Test sides, but a pretty handy bat who can take wickets reasonably cheaply.
**4\. Carl Hooper** - A batter who could roll the arm over. Went for nearly 50 with the ball. Used to enjoy watching him trundle in with one of the laziest actions I've ever seen.
**3\. Abdul Razzaq** - His batting average doesn't accurately reflect how good he could be with the bat IMO. Scored a few tons and while he was hopeless against us, he was very much a threat in the subcontinent.
**2\. Andrew Symonds** - I don't consider Roy to be a Test allrounder. Definitely an ODI allrounder but was really just a bat who rolled the arm over. Talented player though.
**1\. Imran Khan** - His best days were in the 80's, played 9 matches in the 90's but was undoubtedly one of the best allrounders ever. To be fair, he was still playing well in the few matches he played, but all things considered we're considering players from the 90's onward.
**Excluded** - Jacques Kallis
**10\. Shaun Pollock** - William H. Macy aka Shaun Pollock is probably the best bowling allrounder I've seen. Took over 400 wickets @ 23 and averaged 32 with the bat. Was very handy for scoring a half ton late in the innings to top up the Saffa's total, or to pull them out of the proverbial.
**9\. Andrew Flintoff** - Averaging 32 with bat and ball, was always a handful for both us and the Saffas. Epic sledger as well, mind the windows Tino!
**8\. Chris Cairns** - Match fixing shenanigans aside, probably the only other genuine allrounder of the period with Freddy, Kallis and Pollock. Was a pain in the arse with the bat against us, but was rather ineffectual with the ball. Lifted for the Poms.
**7\. Steve Waugh** - I really would have liked to have rated Tugger higher as he was a brilliant captain and a brilliant bat as well as one of the most mentally hardened players I've seen, but didn't bowl often enough all the way through his career to justify an all rounder tag.
**6\. Heath Streak** - Only struggled against Australia and South Africa, a bit lean with the bat but still scored a ton and a dozen 50's and he averaged 28 with the ball. 216 wickets in 65 Tests isn't a bad effort.
**5\. Shakib Al Hasan** - Still has to prove himself against the top tier Test sides, but a pretty handy bat who can take wickets reasonably cheaply.
**4\. Carl Hooper** - A batter who could roll the arm over. Went for nearly 50 with the ball. Used to enjoy watching him trundle in with one of the laziest actions I've ever seen.
**3\. Abdul Razzaq** - His batting average doesn't accurately reflect how good he could be with the bat IMO. Scored a few tons and while he was hopeless against us, he was very much a threat in the subcontinent.
**2\. Andrew Symonds** - I don't consider Roy to be a Test allrounder. Definitely an ODI allrounder but was really just a bat who rolled the arm over. Talented player though.
**1\. Imran Khan** - His best days were in the 80's, played 9 matches in the 90's but was undoubtedly one of the best allrounders ever. To be fair, he was still playing well in the few matches he played, but all things considered we're considering players from the 90's onward.
**Excluded** - Jacques Kallis
foreveratiger
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10.Jacques Kallis
9.Shaun Pollock
8.Andrew Flintoff
7.Steve Waugh
6.Carl Hooper
5.Chris Cairns
4.Imran Khan
3.Abdul Razzaq
2.Heath Streak
1.Shakib Al Hasan
9.Shaun Pollock
8.Andrew Flintoff
7.Steve Waugh
6.Carl Hooper
5.Chris Cairns
4.Imran Khan
3.Abdul Razzaq
2.Heath Streak
1.Shakib Al Hasan
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GNR4LIFE
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10\. Jacques Kallis
9\. Chris Cairns
8\. Carl Hooper
7\. Abdul Razzaq
6\. Shaun Pollock
5\. Imran Kahn
4\. Heath Streak
3\. Andrew Symonds
2\. Steve Waugh
1\. Shakib Al Hasan
Kallis first, daylight second as far as allrounders go. Not only is he the greatest allrounder that has ever played the game, he's in the top 10 players to ever play the game imo. You can even argue top 5 i think. Doesn't get the plaudits that Ponting, Lara, Warne and Sachin have got, but look at his stats and they are every bit as impressive. Pollock was more of a bowling allrounder, not in the classic sense. He was a bowler who was very good with the bat. But i think guys like Kumble and Graham Swann were just as good and could be considered allrounders too if you're going to consider Pollock one. The reason i have Waugh so low is he was never really an allrounder, not later in his career anyway after his back restricted him from contributing with the ball.
9\. Chris Cairns
8\. Carl Hooper
7\. Abdul Razzaq
6\. Shaun Pollock
5\. Imran Kahn
4\. Heath Streak
3\. Andrew Symonds
2\. Steve Waugh
1\. Shakib Al Hasan
Kallis first, daylight second as far as allrounders go. Not only is he the greatest allrounder that has ever played the game, he's in the top 10 players to ever play the game imo. You can even argue top 5 i think. Doesn't get the plaudits that Ponting, Lara, Warne and Sachin have got, but look at his stats and they are every bit as impressive. Pollock was more of a bowling allrounder, not in the classic sense. He was a bowler who was very good with the bat. But i think guys like Kumble and Graham Swann were just as good and could be considered allrounders too if you're going to consider Pollock one. The reason i have Waugh so low is he was never really an allrounder, not later in his career anyway after his back restricted him from contributing with the ball.
@Sabre said:
Can we move on whilst waiting for Swaggy to be allowed his internet time…the jolly fatman is coming nice to have this finished before then....?
foreveratiger
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@Geo. said:
:roll
Yep moving on so we can finish the game before NRL season starts
Pace Bowlers:
Allan Donald
Andrew Caddick
Angus Fraser
Brett Lee
Chaminder Vaas
Courtney Walsh
Craig Mcdermott
Curtly Ambrose
Dale Steyn
Damien Fleming
Darren Gough
Glenn McGrath
Ian Bishop
Ishant Sharma
James Anderson
Jason Gillespie
Javagal Srinath
Kapil Dev
Makhaya Ntini
Merv Hughes
Michell Starc
Mitchell Johnson
Morne Morkel
Peter Siddle
Ryan Harris
Shane Bond
Shoaib Ahktar
Stuart Broad
Tim Southee
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Zaheer Khan
Pace Bowlers:
Allan Donald
Andrew Caddick
Angus Fraser
Brett Lee
Chaminder Vaas
Courtney Walsh
Craig Mcdermott
Curtly Ambrose
Dale Steyn
Damien Fleming
Darren Gough
Glenn McGrath
Ian Bishop
Ishant Sharma
James Anderson
Jason Gillespie
Javagal Srinath
Kapil Dev
Makhaya Ntini
Merv Hughes
Michell Starc
Mitchell Johnson
Morne Morkel
Peter Siddle
Ryan Harris
Shane Bond
Shoaib Ahktar
Stuart Broad
Tim Southee
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Zaheer Khan
Bazzinator
New member
29\. Glenn McGrath
28\. Allan Donald
27\. Waqar younis
26\. Wasim Akram
25\. Mitchell Johnson
24\. Courtney Walsh
23\. Curtley Ambrose
22\. Dale Steyn
21\. Charminda Vaas
20\. Darren Gough
19\. Makhaya Ntini
18\. Jason Gillespie
17\. Merv Hughes
16\. Zaheer Khan
15\. Damien Fleming
14\. Ryan Harris
13\. James Anderson
12\. Andy Caddick
11\. Craig McDermott
10\. Javagal Srinath
9\. Kapil Dev
8\. Shane Bond
7\. Morne Morkel
6\. Ian Bishop
5\. Mithell Starc
4\. Angus Fraser
3\. Tim Southee
2\. Ishant Sharma
1\. Peter Siddle
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I must say this has been the hardest to vote on with so many great bwolers in this era. I think someone like Bond would be one of the greats if he wasnt injured and someone like bishop, mcdermott i didnt get to see so im judging off what ive heard rather than seen
28\. Allan Donald
27\. Waqar younis
26\. Wasim Akram
25\. Mitchell Johnson
24\. Courtney Walsh
23\. Curtley Ambrose
22\. Dale Steyn
21\. Charminda Vaas
20\. Darren Gough
19\. Makhaya Ntini
18\. Jason Gillespie
17\. Merv Hughes
16\. Zaheer Khan
15\. Damien Fleming
14\. Ryan Harris
13\. James Anderson
12\. Andy Caddick
11\. Craig McDermott
10\. Javagal Srinath
9\. Kapil Dev
8\. Shane Bond
7\. Morne Morkel
6\. Ian Bishop
5\. Mithell Starc
4\. Angus Fraser
3\. Tim Southee
2\. Ishant Sharma
1\. Peter Siddle
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I must say this has been the hardest to vote on with so many great bwolers in this era. I think someone like Bond would be one of the greats if he wasnt injured and someone like bishop, mcdermott i didnt get to see so im judging off what ive heard rather than seen
29\. Curtly Ambrose
28\. Allan Donald
27\. Wasim Akram
26\. Courtney Walsh
25\. Merv Hughes
24\. Shoaib Ahktar
23\. Ryan Harris
22\. Brett Lee
21\. Mitchell Johnson
20\. Waqar Younis
19\. James Anderson
18\. Jason Gillespie
17\. Craig Mcdermott
16\. Makhaya Ntini
15\. Darren Gough
14\. Damien Fleming
13\. Kapil Dev
12\. Chaminder Vaas
11\. Ian Bishop
10\. Javagal Srinath
9\. Morne Morkel
8\. Shane Bond
7\. Michell Starc
6\. Stuart Broad
5\. Ishant Sharma
4\. Peter Siddle
3.Tim Southee
2\. Angus Fraser
1\. Andrew Caddick
28\. Allan Donald
27\. Wasim Akram
26\. Courtney Walsh
25\. Merv Hughes
24\. Shoaib Ahktar
23\. Ryan Harris
22\. Brett Lee
21\. Mitchell Johnson
20\. Waqar Younis
19\. James Anderson
18\. Jason Gillespie
17\. Craig Mcdermott
16\. Makhaya Ntini
15\. Darren Gough
14\. Damien Fleming
13\. Kapil Dev
12\. Chaminder Vaas
11\. Ian Bishop
10\. Javagal Srinath
9\. Morne Morkel
8\. Shane Bond
7\. Michell Starc
6\. Stuart Broad
5\. Ishant Sharma
4\. Peter Siddle
3.Tim Southee
2\. Angus Fraser
1\. Andrew Caddick
foreveratiger
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29\. Glenn McGrath
28\. Curtley Ambrose
27\. Dale Steyn
26\. Courtney Walsh
25\. Brett Lee
24\. Allan Donald
23\. Wasim Akram
22\. Shoaib Ahktar
21\. Zaeer Khan
20\. James Anderson
19\. Darren Gough
18\. Makhaya Ntini
17\. Jason Gillespie
16\. Waqar Younis
15\. Chaminder Vass
14\. Morne Morkel
13\. Damien Fleming
12\. Ryan Harris
11\. Kapil Dev
10\. Mitchell Starc
9\. Javagal Srinath
8\. Ian Bishop
7\. Ishant Sharma
6\. Shane Bond
5\. Stuart Broad
4\. Peter Siddle
3\. Angus Fraser
2\. Andrew Caddick
1.Tim Southee
28\. Curtley Ambrose
27\. Dale Steyn
26\. Courtney Walsh
25\. Brett Lee
24\. Allan Donald
23\. Wasim Akram
22\. Shoaib Ahktar
21\. Zaeer Khan
20\. James Anderson
19\. Darren Gough
18\. Makhaya Ntini
17\. Jason Gillespie
16\. Waqar Younis
15\. Chaminder Vass
14\. Morne Morkel
13\. Damien Fleming
12\. Ryan Harris
11\. Kapil Dev
10\. Mitchell Starc
9\. Javagal Srinath
8\. Ian Bishop
7\. Ishant Sharma
6\. Shane Bond
5\. Stuart Broad
4\. Peter Siddle
3\. Angus Fraser
2\. Andrew Caddick
1.Tim Southee
29\. Glenn McGrath
28\. Dale Steyn
27\. Courtney Walsh
26\. Brett Lee
25\. Makhaya Ntini
24\. Mitchell Johnson
23\. Stuart Broad
22\. Wasim Akram
21\. Waqar Younis
20\. Allan Donald
19\. Chaminder Vaas
18\. Zaheer Khan
17\. Shoaib Ahktar
16\. James Anderson
15\. Morne Morkel
14\. Ryan Harris
13\. Darren Gough
12\. Javagal Srinath
11\. Craig Mcdermott
10\. Ian Bishop
9\. Ishant Sharma
8\. Angus Fraser
7\. Kapil Dev
6\. Merv Hughes
5\. Peter Siddle
4\. Mitchell Starc
3\. Tim Southee
2\. Damien Fleming
1\. Shane Bond
Definitely the hardest vote, so many great bowlers, a few who only just caught the edge of this era which made it even harder. In the end I had to go McGrath and Steyn as my top 2, couldn't leave them out of those top spots. The rest required a lot more thinking.
I'm surprised at some of the low votes for Andy Caddick (234 wickets at 29.91) and even more-so Stuart Broad (315 wickets at 29.12)
28\. Dale Steyn
27\. Courtney Walsh
26\. Brett Lee
25\. Makhaya Ntini
24\. Mitchell Johnson
23\. Stuart Broad
22\. Wasim Akram
21\. Waqar Younis
20\. Allan Donald
19\. Chaminder Vaas
18\. Zaheer Khan
17\. Shoaib Ahktar
16\. James Anderson
15\. Morne Morkel
14\. Ryan Harris
13\. Darren Gough
12\. Javagal Srinath
11\. Craig Mcdermott
10\. Ian Bishop
9\. Ishant Sharma
8\. Angus Fraser
7\. Kapil Dev
6\. Merv Hughes
5\. Peter Siddle
4\. Mitchell Starc
3\. Tim Southee
2\. Damien Fleming
1\. Shane Bond
Definitely the hardest vote, so many great bowlers, a few who only just caught the edge of this era which made it even harder. In the end I had to go McGrath and Steyn as my top 2, couldn't leave them out of those top spots. The rest required a lot more thinking.
I'm surprised at some of the low votes for Andy Caddick (234 wickets at 29.91) and even more-so Stuart Broad (315 wickets at 29.12)
tig_prmz
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@happy tiger said:
just remembered that you voted joey down due to his ecstasy use, wonder if you would have rated warney down due to his 'diuretic' use? :wink:
tig_prmz
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29\. Glenn McGrath
28\. Curtly Ambrose
27\. Allan Donald
26\. Waqar Younis
25\. Wasim Akram
24\. Craig Mcdermott
23\. Dale Steyn
22\. Damien Fleming
21\. Brett Lee
20\. Chaminder Vaas
19\. James Anderson
18\. Zaheer Khan
17\. Shoaib Ahktar
16\. Jason Gillespie
15\. Ian Bishop
14\. Javagal Srinath
13\. Darren Gough
12\. Makhaya Ntini
11\. Stuart Broad
10\. Morne Morkel
9\. Mitchell Johnson
8\. Ryan Harris
7\. Ishant Sharma
6\. Kapil Dev
5\. Merv Hughes
4\. Andrew Caddick
3\. Peter Siddle
2\. Tim Southee
1\. Michell Starc
kapil dev, merv hughes only played about 3/4 years in the 90s. starc i picked last because even though he could be a great player later in his career, so far he's only played about 1/2 good test matches. i wish i could've rated zaheer khan and vaas higher, they played majority of matches in spinner friendly conditions yet killed it. waqar and akram, the deadliest players ever.
i think i picked shane bond coz of his average of 23\. something, which is thereabouts with most of the legends.. obviously hasn't picked up as many wickets, only played 8 years. deadly yorker though in one dayers.
im actually quite surprised at people rating bond so low. when i first started watching cricket around 2002, i fell in love with him straight away.
28\. Curtly Ambrose
27\. Allan Donald
26\. Waqar Younis
25\. Wasim Akram
24\. Craig Mcdermott
23\. Dale Steyn
22\. Damien Fleming
21\. Brett Lee
20\. Chaminder Vaas
19\. James Anderson
18\. Zaheer Khan
17\. Shoaib Ahktar
16\. Jason Gillespie
15\. Ian Bishop
14\. Javagal Srinath
13\. Darren Gough
12\. Makhaya Ntini
11\. Stuart Broad
10\. Morne Morkel
9\. Mitchell Johnson
8\. Ryan Harris
7\. Ishant Sharma
6\. Kapil Dev
5\. Merv Hughes
4\. Andrew Caddick
3\. Peter Siddle
2\. Tim Southee
1\. Michell Starc
kapil dev, merv hughes only played about 3/4 years in the 90s. starc i picked last because even though he could be a great player later in his career, so far he's only played about 1/2 good test matches. i wish i could've rated zaheer khan and vaas higher, they played majority of matches in spinner friendly conditions yet killed it. waqar and akram, the deadliest players ever.
i think i picked shane bond coz of his average of 23\. something, which is thereabouts with most of the legends.. obviously hasn't picked up as many wickets, only played 8 years. deadly yorker though in one dayers.
im actually quite surprised at people rating bond so low. when i first started watching cricket around 2002, i fell in love with him straight away.
29\. McGrath
28\. Akram
27\. Ambrose
26\. Donald
25\. Walsh
24\. Steyn
23\. Younis
22\. Lee
21\. Anderson
20\. Gillespie
19\. Srinath
18\. Dev
17\. Johnson
16\. Khan
15\. Akhtar
14\. Broad
13\. Hughes
12\. Caddick
11\. MacDermott
10\. Sharma
09\. Harris
08\. Gough
07\. Siddle
06\. Fraser
05\. Ntini
04\. Bishop
03 Starc
02 Southee
01 Bond
28\. Akram
27\. Ambrose
26\. Donald
25\. Walsh
24\. Steyn
23\. Younis
22\. Lee
21\. Anderson
20\. Gillespie
19\. Srinath
18\. Dev
17\. Johnson
16\. Khan
15\. Akhtar
14\. Broad
13\. Hughes
12\. Caddick
11\. MacDermott
10\. Sharma
09\. Harris
08\. Gough
07\. Siddle
06\. Fraser
05\. Ntini
04\. Bishop
03 Starc
02 Southee
01 Bond
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