ancient_magpie
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They might control the magpies but how many have a history with the old magpies
Senior Management and The Board - MEGA Thread
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Leck
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I just hope they get it right.
cochise
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I would like to know what you and @ancient_magpie are so concerned about?
This club has just won back to back spoons and is looking down the barrel of another, on the back of not playing finals football for over a decade. Off the field we lurch from one stuff up to another.
I think it is important it is important to find the causes of the position the club finds itself in and solutions to rectify it.
I would expect any organisation with a decade of failure to investigate the reason for that failure.
Joel Helmes
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Andreachio, Wade and Burgess have a Magpies background.
Romero I think does as well. Says she was a life long Magpies fan before the merge.
I don’t understand what your issue is. The whole time @cochise has not once called for the return of Balmain nor Magpies. Both clubs are now merged and the key of this review is to help make the Wests Tigers successful, not bring either club back into first grade. Besides our whole board of directors besides Danny and Lee are either Magpies fans, or involved with the Magpies prior to the merge or both. Maybe it’s time the board was not people who were associated with either club?
Mistymuzzle
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Rick Wade was president of MAgpies in the 80's
gallagher
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Careful of what you wish for. If you get rid of Wests Ashfield and Balmain them you may be kissing goodbye to the inner west and games at Leichhardt.
AmericanHistoryX
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Say goodbye to life as it is today. We all doomed.
AmericanHistoryX
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What else is there?
Dont think the games at Leichhardt would stop. Not yet anyway, it’s their best attendance rate compared to Campbelltown. Besides i didn’t actually call for Wests Ashfield or HBG to be gone and sell, I said maybe it’s time to not have ex Balmain and Magpies fans and ex workers/players on the board. Big difference.
gallagher
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I didn't think you said WA would sell. But if you get rid of Balmain and wests fans on the board you might get board members who see a future in the south West.
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AmericanHistoryX
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Many people don't think. You 2 aren't the first. Its okay.
gallagher
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I’m not against a move to the south west, but right now with the way it is going, it’s not guaranteed to be successful. Fans don’t go to the games when we’re there, even people on social media who live there (which I get is not the only people that exist) are wanting the club to not go there anymore, they want them gone. Besides I think if they did move that way the only place it might work is Liverpool, Campbelltown needs a massive overhaul and not just fan attendance. The ground itself needs some work.
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On second thought you are right. We need some old Magpie DNA in the club to relive the glory years of 83-99
AmericanHistoryX
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Love you bro! Thank You. Appreciate real people. Gallagher
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Why the next fortnight is the most important in Wests Tigers’ history
www.smh.com.au
This might sound a little hysterical but it’s true: the next fortnight is the most important in the Wests Tigers’ 24-year history. Time to draw a line in the quicksand and get it right.
On Tuesday, the findings from an independent review into the corporate governance of the joint venture will be presented to the Holman Barnes Group, the controlling faction on the Tigers board.
Chairman Lee Hagipantelis, one of three independent directors, felt from the start this review was a clandestine play to push him out. What a surprise: he made it about himself.
What might surprise Holman Barnes directors, who commissioned the review in the first place, is the recommendations will ask them to step back.
According to those who have seen the report, speaking on the condition of anonymity because it is yet to be released, the review is less about Hagipantelis and more about the club’s entire board and structure.
The right thing for the board, including Hagipantelis, to do is accept the recommendations and take action at its final meeting on December 12.
It’s the only way forward for the Tigers. It’s the only way Benji Marshall won’t become cannon fodder like the coaches before him. It’s the only way he can operate without the never-ending din of commentary from board members.
International Olympic Committee vice-president John Coates has publicly declared he has no interest in being chair because he doesn’t have the time, but the Tigers should do everything in their power to change his mind.
If Coates can navigate the politics of the Olympics for more than 40 years – as well as survive various coups against him as Australian Olympic Committee president – he can oversee a Tigers revolution in his lunch break.
Fans nod off when football clubs start talking about proper corporate governance, but it’s critical to the performance of their team.
Look at Parramatta, who had to go through a salary cap scandal to bring about the constitutional reforms that ended years of the factional infighting that hurt the club every time an election was held.
Eels fans might bemoan not winning a premiership since 1986, but the club is no longer strangled by politics and power grabs.
The man who put Parramatta on the right path was former NRL chief financial officer Tony Crawford, who has conducted the Tigers review alongside businessman Gary Barnier.
As it stands, the Holman Barnes Group has the balance of power on the Tigers board, providing four of seven directors. Those directors are drawn from a shallow pool of just 143 of their own members.
It would take a sizeable leap of faith for Holman Barnes to stand aside, especially given the long-time financial backing of its licensed club, Wests Ashfield, to the Tigers.
Surely, though, it realises it’s time for structural change.
Consider the Tigers’ record since the two foundation clubs formed a joint venture in 1999. They’ve won one premiership; claimed no minor premierships; had only three top-four finishes; had only four seasons with a positive for-and-against; finished in the bottom four nine times; and claimed the last two wooden spoons.
Significantly, they’ve churned through eight full-time coaches (we haven’t counted caretakers) with only Tim Sheens coaching more than 80 games.
The poisoned clipboard has been handed to Marshall, a favourite son who intends to coach his way, much like he did as a player.
Long-suffering supporters have jumped through seven circles of hell in the past decade. In Marshall, they have legitimate reason to feel optimistic.
Yet he was given a portent into what life was like for the graveyard of coaches before him when he presented to the board earlier this year as he prepared to take over from Sheens in 2024.
Instead of listening to the most decorated player in the club’s history, certain directors wanted to counsel him on player recruitment and retention. Marshall wasn’t having a bar of it and left the meeting with an assurance he would have complete autonomy.
Then he started working with recruitment manager Scott Fulton, who was appointed without any discussion with Marshall or Sheens, and they immediately started butting heads.
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Fulton tried to sign Josh Schuster from Manly on big money and Marshall, rightly, pushed back.
I’m assured the relationship between Marshall and Fulton has simmered. The fact Marshall has taken charge of negotiations with off-contract Penrith five-eighth Jarome Luai speaks to the autonomy he’s been given – for now.
Marshall will coach less like Sheens and more like Wayne Bennett, who coached Marshall during their time together with New Zealand, the NRL All Stars and South Sydney. The pair speak regularly.
Like Bennett, Marshall’s pre-season focus has been on elevating standards and not how his team will play. For some players, the gruelling nature of the training has been a shock, but Marshall is more concerned about effort than intricate plays.
Like Bennett, Marshall also won’t cop excuses. He’s told his players club politics doesn’t influence how hard they tackle or run.
Nevertheless, boardroom shenanigans and the vainglorious behaviour of the chairman is hurting the Tigers as much as their defence.
Former coach Michael Maguire was regularly frustrated when officials thought out loud about team performance – or, worse still, player contracts – to reporters.
Hagipantelis is rugby league’s most visible club chairman. He dines with reporters and seeks their advice, like the last off-season when he lunched with News Corp reporters who suggested appointing Sheens as coach.
Loading
He appears weekly on SEN Radio on a segment sponsored by his firm, Brydens Lawyers, and waxes lyrical on other clubs and issues within the game. He’s an engaging speaker and clearly a smart man. His passion and commitment to the Tigers can’t be questioned.
But it explains everything about the convoluted governance of the Tigers that the chairman is also the principal of the major sponsor.
An overhaul of the club’s structure is the only way out of the mire.
Time to draw a line in the quicksand, and the Holman Barnes Group is the only one that can draw it.
Why the next fortnight is the most important in Wests Tigers’ history
Without major changes to the board, Benji Marshall will never be able to shine.
On Tuesday, the findings from an independent review into the corporate governance of the joint venture will be presented to the Holman Barnes Group, the controlling faction on the Tigers board.
Chairman Lee Hagipantelis, one of three independent directors, felt from the start this review was a clandestine play to push him out. What a surprise: he made it about himself.
What might surprise Holman Barnes directors, who commissioned the review in the first place, is the recommendations will ask them to step back.
According to those who have seen the report, speaking on the condition of anonymity because it is yet to be released, the review is less about Hagipantelis and more about the club’s entire board and structure.
The right thing for the board, including Hagipantelis, to do is accept the recommendations and take action at its final meeting on December 12.
It’s the only way forward for the Tigers. It’s the only way Benji Marshall won’t become cannon fodder like the coaches before him. It’s the only way he can operate without the never-ending din of commentary from board members.
International Olympic Committee vice-president John Coates has publicly declared he has no interest in being chair because he doesn’t have the time, but the Tigers should do everything in their power to change his mind.
If Coates can navigate the politics of the Olympics for more than 40 years – as well as survive various coups against him as Australian Olympic Committee president – he can oversee a Tigers revolution in his lunch break.
Fans nod off when football clubs start talking about proper corporate governance, but it’s critical to the performance of their team.
Look at Parramatta, who had to go through a salary cap scandal to bring about the constitutional reforms that ended years of the factional infighting that hurt the club every time an election was held.
Eels fans might bemoan not winning a premiership since 1986, but the club is no longer strangled by politics and power grabs.
The man who put Parramatta on the right path was former NRL chief financial officer Tony Crawford, who has conducted the Tigers review alongside businessman Gary Barnier.
As it stands, the Holman Barnes Group has the balance of power on the Tigers board, providing four of seven directors. Those directors are drawn from a shallow pool of just 143 of their own members.
It would take a sizeable leap of faith for Holman Barnes to stand aside, especially given the long-time financial backing of its licensed club, Wests Ashfield, to the Tigers.
Surely, though, it realises it’s time for structural change.
Consider the Tigers’ record since the two foundation clubs formed a joint venture in 1999. They’ve won one premiership; claimed no minor premierships; had only three top-four finishes; had only four seasons with a positive for-and-against; finished in the bottom four nine times; and claimed the last two wooden spoons.
Significantly, they’ve churned through eight full-time coaches (we haven’t counted caretakers) with only Tim Sheens coaching more than 80 games.
The poisoned clipboard has been handed to Marshall, a favourite son who intends to coach his way, much like he did as a player.
Long-suffering supporters have jumped through seven circles of hell in the past decade. In Marshall, they have legitimate reason to feel optimistic.
Yet he was given a portent into what life was like for the graveyard of coaches before him when he presented to the board earlier this year as he prepared to take over from Sheens in 2024.
Instead of listening to the most decorated player in the club’s history, certain directors wanted to counsel him on player recruitment and retention. Marshall wasn’t having a bar of it and left the meeting with an assurance he would have complete autonomy.
Then he started working with recruitment manager Scott Fulton, who was appointed without any discussion with Marshall or Sheens, and they immediately started butting heads.
Loading
Fulton tried to sign Josh Schuster from Manly on big money and Marshall, rightly, pushed back.
I’m assured the relationship between Marshall and Fulton has simmered. The fact Marshall has taken charge of negotiations with off-contract Penrith five-eighth Jarome Luai speaks to the autonomy he’s been given – for now.
Marshall will coach less like Sheens and more like Wayne Bennett, who coached Marshall during their time together with New Zealand, the NRL All Stars and South Sydney. The pair speak regularly.
Like Bennett, Marshall’s pre-season focus has been on elevating standards and not how his team will play. For some players, the gruelling nature of the training has been a shock, but Marshall is more concerned about effort than intricate plays.
Like Bennett, Marshall also won’t cop excuses. He’s told his players club politics doesn’t influence how hard they tackle or run.
Nevertheless, boardroom shenanigans and the vainglorious behaviour of the chairman is hurting the Tigers as much as their defence.
Former coach Michael Maguire was regularly frustrated when officials thought out loud about team performance – or, worse still, player contracts – to reporters.
Hagipantelis is rugby league’s most visible club chairman. He dines with reporters and seeks their advice, like the last off-season when he lunched with News Corp reporters who suggested appointing Sheens as coach.
Loading
He appears weekly on SEN Radio on a segment sponsored by his firm, Brydens Lawyers, and waxes lyrical on other clubs and issues within the game. He’s an engaging speaker and clearly a smart man. His passion and commitment to the Tigers can’t be questioned.
But it explains everything about the convoluted governance of the Tigers that the chairman is also the principal of the major sponsor.
An overhaul of the club’s structure is the only way out of the mire.
Time to draw a line in the quicksand, and the Holman Barnes Group is the only one that can draw it.
jirskyr
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I, for one, welcomed our new insect overlords
Why the next fortnight is the most important in Wests Tigers’ history
This might sound a little hysterical but it’s true: the next fortnight is the most important in the Wests Tigers’ 24-year history. Time to draw a line in the quicksand and get it right.Why the next fortnight is the most important in Wests Tigers’ history
Without major changes to the board, Benji Marshall will never be able to shine.
On Tuesday, the findings from an independent review into the corporate governance of the joint venture will be presented to the Holman Barnes Group, the controlling faction on the Tigers board.
Chairman Lee Hagipantelis, one of three independent directors, felt from the start this review was a clandestine play to push him out. What a surprise: he made it about himself.
What might surprise Holman Barnes directors, who commissioned the review in the first place, is the recommendations will ask them to step back.
According to those who have seen the report, speaking on the condition of anonymity because it is yet to be released, the review is less about Hagipantelis and more about the club’s entire board and structure.
The right thing for the board, including Hagipantelis, to do is accept the recommendations and take action at its final meeting on December 12.
It’s the only way forward for the Tigers. It’s the only way Benji Marshall won’t become cannon fodder like the coaches before him. It’s the only way he can operate without the never-ending din of commentary from board members.
International Olympic Committee vice-president John Coates has publicly declared he has no interest in being chair because he doesn’t have the time, but the Tigers should do everything in their power to change his mind.
If Coates can navigate the politics of the Olympics for more than 40 years – as well as survive various coups against him as Australian Olympic Committee president – he can oversee a Tigers revolution in his lunch break.
Fans nod off when football clubs start talking about proper corporate governance, but it’s critical to the performance of their team.
Look at Parramatta, who had to go through a salary cap scandal to bring about the constitutional reforms that ended years of the factional infighting that hurt the club every time an election was held.
Eels fans might bemoan not winning a premiership since 1986, but the club is no longer strangled by politics and power grabs.
The man who put Parramatta on the right path was former NRL chief financial officer Tony Crawford, who has conducted the Tigers review alongside businessman Gary Barnier.
As it stands, the Holman Barnes Group has the balance of power on the Tigers board, providing four of seven directors. Those directors are drawn from a shallow pool of just 143 of their own members.
It would take a sizeable leap of faith for Holman Barnes to stand aside, especially given the long-time financial backing of its licensed club, Wests Ashfield, to the Tigers.
Surely, though, it realises it’s time for structural change.
Consider the Tigers’ record since the two foundation clubs formed a joint venture in 1999. They’ve won one premiership; claimed no minor premierships; had only three top-four finishes; had only four seasons with a positive for-and-against; finished in the bottom four nine times; and claimed the last two wooden spoons.
Significantly, they’ve churned through eight full-time coaches (we haven’t counted caretakers) with only Tim Sheens coaching more than 80 games.
The poisoned clipboard has been handed to Marshall, a favourite son who intends to coach his way, much like he did as a player.
Long-suffering supporters have jumped through seven circles of hell in the past decade. In Marshall, they have legitimate reason to feel optimistic.
Yet he was given a portent into what life was like for the graveyard of coaches before him when he presented to the board earlier this year as he prepared to take over from Sheens in 2024.
Instead of listening to the most decorated player in the club’s history, certain directors wanted to counsel him on player recruitment and retention. Marshall wasn’t having a bar of it and left the meeting with an assurance he would have complete autonomy.
Then he started working with recruitment manager Scott Fulton, who was appointed without any discussion with Marshall or Sheens, and they immediately started butting heads.
Loading
Fulton tried to sign Josh Schuster from Manly on big money and Marshall, rightly, pushed back.
I’m assured the relationship between Marshall and Fulton has simmered. The fact Marshall has taken charge of negotiations with off-contract Penrith five-eighth Jarome Luai speaks to the autonomy he’s been given – for now.
Marshall will coach less like Sheens and more like Wayne Bennett, who coached Marshall during their time together with New Zealand, the NRL All Stars and South Sydney. The pair speak regularly.
Like Bennett, Marshall’s pre-season focus has been on elevating standards and not how his team will play. For some players, the gruelling nature of the training has been a shock, but Marshall is more concerned about effort than intricate plays.
Like Bennett, Marshall also won’t cop excuses. He’s told his players club politics doesn’t influence how hard they tackle or run.
Nevertheless, boardroom shenanigans and the vainglorious behaviour of the chairman is hurting the Tigers as much as their defence.
Former coach Michael Maguire was regularly frustrated when officials thought out loud about team performance – or, worse still, player contracts – to reporters.
Hagipantelis is rugby league’s most visible club chairman. He dines with reporters and seeks their advice, like the last off-season when he lunched with News Corp reporters who suggested appointing Sheens as coach.
Loading
He appears weekly on SEN Radio on a segment sponsored by his firm, Brydens Lawyers, and waxes lyrical on other clubs and issues within the game. He’s an engaging speaker and clearly a smart man. His passion and commitment to the Tigers can’t be questioned.
But it explains everything about the convoluted governance of the Tigers that the chairman is also the principal of the major sponsor.
An overhaul of the club’s structure is the only way out of the mire.
Time to draw a line in the quicksand, and the Holman Barnes Group is the only one that can draw it.
I am in agreement with all of that,to put it in a few words "It is time to stop the lunatics from running the asylum" and i could not give a rats on what they did 5 10 15 20 30+ years ago.Their time should be over we need a board of intelligent INDEPENDANT directors so we can become the club we deserve to be and not the bag of manure that we are
