AmericanHistoryX
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Or how good it could be run.
The clubs cooked
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Seems Stephano wants out now Galvin wants out !
The fact is Any footballer at the Wests Tigers who is considered good enough to get in to a top 8 club probably wants out .Who doesn't is those who either by age or form would not attract much interest elsewhere .Papalii gone !
Only exceptions are Api and Bula for the moment .
That leaves a pool of mediocre footballers .
Doesn't really matter who the coach is you can't win much with this Roster .
Seems our much vaunted "Pathways " is a a myth .
Only solution is recruit almost an entire footy team just like the Dogs have done.
To be able to afford this we will obviously need to have a major clean out of the top 30
The fact is Any footballer at the Wests Tigers who is considered good enough to get in to a top 8 club probably wants out .Who doesn't is those who either by age or form would not attract much interest elsewhere .Papalii gone !
Only exceptions are Api and Bula for the moment .
That leaves a pool of mediocre footballers .
Doesn't really matter who the coach is you can't win much with this Roster .
Seems our much vaunted "Pathways " is a a myth .
Only solution is recruit almost an entire footy team just like the Dogs have done.
To be able to afford this we will obviously need to have a major clean out of the top 30
AmericanHistoryX
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Thanks. Dont forget the rebuild
BAGNF05
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Because he’s a capable first grade prop with upside. Not looking fantastic in a really poor side in 2024 but that’s a pretty safe contract offer based on what most would see Stef achieving long term.
AmericanHistoryX
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And from what other teams see a totally different prospect . And not long term. Short term. That NSW player the other night did not waste any time. Took him all of 30 secs
glebe tiger
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That's what I called it sometime ago. Rings very true atm
jirskyr
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I dont think I can say it was a mistake or not until he's had his fair chance. He's being judged as much on what he inherited as what he has actually done.
I also think it's totally irrelevant whether anyone thinks it was a mistake at the time; now it's done he needs to be given a fair chance.
AmericanHistoryX
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If you paid membership - hell yeh... your point is valid.... thats relevant
As a long term Wests Tigers supporter I’m unable to disagree with many of the comments here except the sacking of Benji as coach. There’s definitely merit in approaching Arthur as assistant coach. However, the NRL is not doing the weaker clubs with the current salary cap rules. It may never had been envisaged that players would sign for unders at more successful clubs. Furthermore clubs have to spend 97.5% of the salary cap. Combine the salary cap with the ongoing media onslaught it results in the Tigers having to pay significant overs for average first grade players and far more than the more successful clubs. I’ve never heard of players (employees of clubs) dictating a budget to their employer admittedly via RLPA negotiations.
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Halbrowne61
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And I read the other day Fiji are making a big push to replace PNG as the next expansion team. Maybe Benji was over there submitting an application for the coaching job !
Halbrowne61
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Please clarify for me who are the “most influential people “ who would be offside with removing Benji, Farah , Heighno and anyone else without coaching credentials ?
G'day h_t Imo for what it's worth, bringing an immortal like Benji in as Our Head Coach [along with Morris, Farah and Heighno being all WT's players] when he's had ZERO experience as a coach of any NRL team at any level... [completely f.....g stupid with hindsight Imo]... was a desperate attempt at identifying and then establishing a Tigers DNA into our club and imposing that on the then contracted players and any future players that are prepared to pledge loyalty to Wests Tigers, not just come here for the extra $$$ we are forced to pay, and then play up to 💩 because they don't Love our club, and aren't prepared to work their guts out to achieve success.
Bringing our juniors thru I guess should be a way of getting at least a little bit of that DNA into the NRL team.
"Off with the fairies". The only thing that can stop us from being a joke again next year is if we can 'somehow' win a fair share of the games we have left this year, and I just can't see that happening.
rihannafan1
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The board and the fans. Benji is the prodigal son and at the beginning of the season had no dirt on his name as a coach. Getting rid of him would have put a lot of influential people off Richo straight away.
I reckon signing Benji as our FG coach was a "well of desperation" from our Board.
I admire Benji for what he did as a player and as a family man, he's got his priorities right.
I admire him for his willingness to take on the duty of 1st grade coach.
But I reckon someone should have had the guts to stand up and say his appt. was not the correct road to follow.
Was Shane Flanagan interviewed for the coaching roll? If he was and was turned down by the board, what a pity. Benji could have served an apprenticeship in some way under Flanagan for however long he was signed for, then Benji takes over as 1st grade coach if he goes well.
I feel Benji may well go from an admired immortal to a failure if things don't start to improve greatly in the near future, and that would be such a pity.
There is no way they’ll sack benji before luai gets here bc benji got him here.
Our only option this year is to bring in an assistant and try and keep the club from sinking before luai gets here next year and hope that he can change the direction of the club.
That means not letting any players we want to keep from leaving and getting rid of dead wood (like they are)
If we don’t improve next year I reckon it’s almost fold time.
Our only option this year is to bring in an assistant and try and keep the club from sinking before luai gets here next year and hope that he can change the direction of the club.
That means not letting any players we want to keep from leaving and getting rid of dead wood (like they are)
If we don’t improve next year I reckon it’s almost fold time.
I'd be over the moon if we came 9th like we used to.
You're strongly defending Benji so therefore the Club.
"I don't think 2024 is especially worse than the last couple of seasons".
Now you're starting to sound like a politician, as you've thrown up some pretty weak arguments in defending what's happening, and the suffering of a lot of our supporters....... and members.
If the 💩 we are coping atm, doesn't get a lot less 💩'er, I feel Wests Tigers will find they have a 'massive' reduction in memberships next year.
Every year we all start with a positive attitude, but year after year our hopes of our team winning even 50% of games are destroyed in a very short time.
They need to change the roster but I havnt seen anything by the coaches that resembles a gameplan.
tig_prmz
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But why do we need to wait another 2 years or whatever people are saying? It's not going to work, chances of it working are less than 5%. We can all see it and predict it.
Throwing Benji in the deep end like this isn't giving him a fair chance. Getting him to come up through the ranks under the mentorship of a solid coach when all the pathways are set up for coaches is giving him a fair chance. The way we are setting out to do things is only leading to him being terminated next year and Richo and all saying "We need another build up".. we've all seen this before.
