The Doueihi move

[ROZELLE.O.G]

Richo needs to get fair dinkum and keep AD. Punt Royce Hunt and Jack Bird and make a point to prioritise a Tigers Junior for once.

Both Hunt and Bird have been second rate and they both are on close to million combined a year. We have juniors coming through that can be better than both of them week to week now.

 

[king_sirro]

That's part of the answer, but also it's become quite the trend NOT to have your halves continually dig into the line because they are getting ironed out all match.

Cameron Murray started the trend and then Yeo solidified the style for Penrith, of the link-up lock who can take the run and draw defenders, but also cop a hit if he has to.

You look at the Roosters, one problem they continue to have is all their eggs are in Sam Walker's halves basket, but he cannot handle 80 mins of defensive traffic every week, nor can he dig into the line without getting regularly hammered.

May and Skelton score yesterday because the Tigers had successfully drawn the Titans defence into the middle (straight play) then a good shift wide. No cut-outs required, no mad tackle busts, just get your edges outside their edges and carry them over.

Our third try was right in front of me and it was very noticeable Luai's reaction when Skelton put the ball down. He turned straight back to Latu and was clearly crediting him with the try. All Latu did was play straight and deep into the line. Honestly, having players that can do this is the absolute key to stripping the edges.

The tools are there with Latu replacing Galvin and Doueihi moving to lock. I thought yesterday was Luai's best game and he will get better if Benji sticks to this combination and builds it.

 

[Tom Shines]

Richo needs to get fair dinkum and keep AD. Punt Royce Hunt and Jack Bird and make a point to prioritise a Tigers Junior for once.

Both Hunt and Bird have been second rate and they both are on close to million combined a year. We have juniors coming through that can be better than both of them week to week now.

“Punt “ …lol … who is taking them on?

 

[Needaname]

That's part of the answer, but also it's become quite the trend NOT to have your halves continually dig into the line because they are getting ironed out all match.

Cameron Murray started the trend and then Yeo solidified the style for Penrith, of the link-up lock who can take the run and draw defenders, but also cop a hit if he has to.

You look at the Roosters, one problem they continue to have is all their eggs are in Sam Walker's halves basket, but he cannot handle 80 mins of defensive traffic every week, nor can he dig into the line without getting regularly hammered.

May and Skelton score yesterday because the Tigers had successfully drawn the Titans defence into the middle (straight play) then a good shift wide. No cut-outs required, no mad tackle busts, just get your edges outside their edges and carry them over.

I just mean for us, not anyone else, I’d love to see us mid field get a bit of momentum by using our halves on a straight run with options, quick play the ball reset and go again. You’d get up field pretty quickly that way. It’s old school but it’s effective.
The point came about as the question was Latu wasn’t as effective since the Roosters game. In the Roosters game Latu was doing exactly that receiving at speed and taking the ball square with options, Doueihi likewise.
I like having a lock provide a bit of space but I’d like to see our focus be to move forwards with supports before shifting. That would tighten up the defence even more so opening up the outside play when it’s on. Storm do it best.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Just read @Mighty_Tiger stats.....he was likely pretty gassed.

Gotta give credit as well to Latu....the pass left to right to douehi for the one pointer could not have been better...it was perfect and it was long, a kicker having to take.a step left or right or reach above to recieve the ball can make all the difference

I’ve been critical of him over the years but thought he had a dig on the weekend. Playing lock is one of the most demanding roles on the park as you have to be engaged in some capacity nearly every set with/without the ball mixed with the constant physical nature of the role.

 

[balmain boy]

I don't quite agree, he did a lot for straightening the attack when he was on.

I sat behind the posts, you could see both Latu and Luai playing a little bit too laterally but Doueihi played straight. It was especially clear when Doueihi went off, we got a little leggy sideways again, then he came back on and we went more direct.

We scored all 3 tries on our left, barge-overs, after dragging the Titans to the middle then sweeping wide. And I'm pretty sure Doueihi was on the field for all of them - in fact yes he was for sure, he took the conversions.

So you think the 5-6m hit ups he took made a difference?

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

So you think the 5-6m hit ups he took made a difference?

Do you want to get rid of AD, not keen?

 

[TIGERS]

Richo needs to get fair dinkum and keep AD. Punt Royce Hunt and Jack Bird and make a point to prioritise a Tigers Junior for once.

Both Hunt and Bird have been second rate and they both are on close to million combined a year. We have juniors coming through that can be better than both of them week to week now.

The offer from us is already out. His field goal last week probably added 80k + to his contract.

There will be a Vacuum for experienced halves and utilities when the Bears rejoin the comp. He should sign his one year deal with us and then earn himself a nice deal beyond 2026 to see out the prime years of his career.

 

[TIGERS]

I mean... not sure we have attack coaching. You're just encouraged to play what's in front of you because Tim Sheens told Benji that and it worked for him.

You cannot say that Tim Sheens's footy was unstructured. That's absolutely untrue. It was insanely academic and technical stuff. It just meant that you had license to take risks where other teams wouldn't (if you see your chance) and not just depend on a set structure to get you around the pitch.

As of today, and attack 'coaching' ...we're just not scoring enough points. We are starting to resemble how we looked with Brooksy playing again. We can't expect to win games via lateral play from our halves and spine alone. We need more moments like Taylan's first try last week where it's just a simple matter of our outside backs being stronger and tougher than our opponents are. What we've have had before then has just been too easy to stop. Other teams aren't dumb either, we've been sussed out the more the year has gone on too.

Also our halves get slim pickings in comparison to what other teams get. Surely we have the most timid and least threatening Centres in this comp, by far. When has Toa or Douehi really broken the line as Centres and made it easy for our halves to finish things off. Toa has had some good finishes, but not much in the way of big line breaks or tackle busts. I can't even remember the last time we had a fantastic linebreak and footrace from our outside backs that lead to a try. It happens to us 3 of 4 times a half...

 

[Moh]

You cannot say that Tim Sheens's footy was unstructured. That's absolutely untrue. It was insanely academic and technical stuff. It just meant that you had license to take risks where other teams wouldn't (if you see your chance) and not just depend on a set structure to get you around the pitch.

As of today, and attack 'coaching' ...we're just not scoring enough points. We are starting to resemble how we looked with Brooksy playing again. We can't expect to win games via lateral play from our halves and spine alone. We need more moments like Taylan's first try last week where it's just a simple matter of our outside backs being stronger and tougher than our opponents are. What we've have had before then has just been too easy to stop. Other teams aren't dumb either, we've been sussed out the more the year has gone on too.

Also our halves get slim pickings in comparison to what other teams get. Surely we have the most timid and least threatening Centres in this comp, by far. When has Toa or Douehi really broken the line as Centres and made it easy for our halves to finish things off. Toa has had some good finishes, but not much in the way of big line breaks or tackle busts. I can't even remember the last time we had a fantastic linebreak and footrace from our outside backs that lead to a try. It happens to us 3 of 4 times a half...

I didn’t say that about Sheens.

But yah, can’t remember the last time our centres, or really anyone for that matter, make a clean line break that we were able to make anything out of.

 

[hank37w]

This is a constant with almost every player that gets to this club. The only consistent player is Terrell.

My point is To’a is far from our biggest problem.

The attack coaching has been horrendous.

Didn't realise that we had one.

 

[hank37w]

1st game and when it mattered the most he stepped up. His ball touches in the last 5mins picked up dramatically and was in position for the field goal.

In 60mins in his 1st game at lock he had 12 runs, 70mtrs+, 30+ tackles, offload that lead to a line break, kicked the winning field goal, kicked a few bombs, and kicked some goals.

People are way too critical - I’ve not been his biggest fan but his workload was fine for his 1st game at lock and for someone who hasn’t had an offseason as a forward.

But where is his spiral bomb.

When is the last time we saw one.

 

[Kelce68]

Richo needs to get fair dinkum and keep AD. Punt Royce Hunt and Jack Bird and make a point to prioritise a Tigers Junior for once.

Lol. What?

Recently re-signed or extended local juniors - Phoenix Godinet, Christian Taupau-Moors, Jared Haywood, Heamasi Makasini, Alex Seyfarth, Fonua Pole, Tony Sukkar.

Both Hunt and Bird have been second rate and they both are on close to million combined a year.

Lol. What?

Citations please.

We have juniors coming through that can be better than both of them week to week now.

Lol. What? Who?

I'm not a huge fan of the Hunt and Bird signings, but let's base some of these opinions on reality.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

But where is his spiral bomb.

When is the last time we saw one.

We need to see it, the errors off bombs this year are already close to hitting the last 5yrs totals with rounds remaining.