The end for the Weststigers

[tigerbalm]

Jesus. One season of getting the spoon and the club folds? Either people are over reacting or I've been supporting a club ran by pussies.

I'm guessing the sky isn't falling and this is all just a acorn hitting a few jumpy members in the head.

Good win by the pies tonight. Good old collingwood forever.

 

[Tigerdazz]

Wests Tigers is a joint venture of Balmain and Wests, it's a collaboration between two clubs on the NRL stage. To make it work, both clubs need to contribute, both clubs need equal representation in the Wests Tigers identity. Simple. …but still not simple enough for some fans to grasp the concept.

The joint venture has been anything but equal, Wests kick in more coin, Balmain get the branding, colours, the juniors, players to their NSW Cup side.. I could go on.. ...but to keep it simple for simple folk, if a mate an I collaborate and buy a carton of beer, each chipping in 50% of the total cost, we have a discussion about what type of beer we want and then split it equally. If and mate and I buy a carton of beer but the costs are split 80/20 the partner who contributes the least doesn't get to choose the type of beer and may only have a few beers rather than half the carton.

So how about the Balmain folk show some humility and gratitude to their Wests brothers for keeping them and the joint venture afloat? Without Wests there would be no Balmain. Full stop.

It has been a one sided JV from the start. From day dot Balmain has held sway in the clubs operation , from first coach to , as we have seen re junior representatives so on so forth. The funding doesn't match the representation of the club board and is a disgrace. To keep the club strong , and to look to the future , the board MUST be representative to the $$ coming in from the partners. Sorry , but money talks …bullcrap walks and Humphreys had to be pushed. Either the board is structured to accurately reflect the amounts contributed by the parties involved.Yes hard decisions need to be made , but with Balmain not coughing up the folding stuff , and the Macarthur District being neglected as to FUTURE growth (the Roosters are already a parasitic presence in the area ) its a bit hard for the Wests faction to accept the status quo .If the board is NOT appointed to represent the actual financial contribution of the participants , I am sure the Wests side of the JV will bide its time and allow Balmain to slowly bleed to death , forcing a complete take over of the franchise.

 

[Eye_Of_Da_Tiger]

The good news is I think we have hit rock bottom how long we stay here is another question?.It can only get better. A classic example of where this club was people like Sheens had influence to reemploy old mates like Royce who failed here failed in England. The examples are endless Skando a Tafe certificate and only just. Recruitment failures rewarded with pay rises. The sh_t has hit the fan no more free rides no more no more…....The word accountability must replace complacent.

 

[Shooshmeister]

And this crap just keeps dragging on, am so over it.

 

[seanm]

We are in a losing streak and have a dysfunctional board.

It seems an overreaction to talk about moving the club to Perth or shutting the club down.

A lot of clubs have off the field issues. It just becomes more visible when the side is doing poorly.

 

[barrytiger]

Wests Tigers is a joint venture of Balmain and Wests, it's a collaboration between two clubs on the NRL stage. To make it work, both clubs need to contribute, both clubs need equal representation in the Wests Tigers identity. Simple. …but still not simple enough for some fans to grasp the concept.

The joint venture has been anything but equal, Wests kick in more coin, Balmain get the branding, colours, the juniors, players to their NSW Cup side.. I could go on.. ...but to keep it simple for simple folk, if a mate an I collaborate and buy a carton of beer, each chipping in 50% of the total cost, we have a discussion about what type of beer we want and then split it equally. If and mate and I buy a carton of beer but the costs are split 80/20 the partner who contributes the least doesn't get to choose the type of beer and may only have a few beers rather than half the carton.

So how about the Balmain folk show some humility and gratitude to their Wests brothers for keeping them and the joint venture afloat? Without Wests there would be no Balmain. Full stop.

The last time i looked the team is not called Balmain or the Magpies,we are called Wests tigers,just like Balmain helped out the Magpies when they were gone by merging,Balmain need a bit of help money wise,what i have seen from this merger is totally 50/50 ok they are called the Tigers and most people call them that,but who is to blame there not the club itself or the people who run it, so dont give me all this Bull that Balmain run the show,it will only be the end of weststigers because some have other agendas.

 

[Tigerdave]

Wests were gone prior to the merger, from memory Balmain actually would have just made the criteria to be kept in, but went ahead with the merger anyway as the writing was on the wall and probably would have only survived a few more years.

I don't know what some of these former Maggie supporters want at times, the Magpies brand back? It didn't work before, why would it work now?

 

[LCA]

Chillax.

Wests Ashfield and Wests Campbelltown won't let the Wests Tigers brand be dissolved. It's all that matters to them. Ashfield has made no secret that it wants to own it. The Magpies football club view is irrelevant.

Wests Tigers ain't going anywhere.

:sign:

I think it was posted on here once before,or at least I read it somewhere, that Wests Campbelltown give exactly $0 towards the Wests Tigers NRL side of things. Can anyone verify that?

 

[westTAHger]

the only time I will believe or accept its the end for wests-tigers, is when they do not field a team in the NRL.
simple as that.

 

[Benny_Storer]

C'mon, seriously? Open your eyes, Balmain is getting the cream whilst Wests get the crumbs. There are examples cited all through this thread and this forum so I won't cover old ground again.

…the point I was making is that if the joint venture wants to succeed and be sustainable into the future the two parent clubs need to be unified. That means equality between the two must be enforced at Board level and filter through to every aspect of the Wests Tigers. Equality will breed harmony.

When the media slip up and call us Balmain, Blocker or Tommy a Wests Tiger legend, use only orange to promote the side, bag out Campbelltown over Leichardt, the Board need to step up and correct them immediately. When Benny drives a wedge with comments like last week's the Board need to step up and smash him then distance themselves. It's as simple as providing a unified front, that's what this Wests Tigers fan with Magpie roots wants.

 

[Knuckles]

I suspect a lot of the trouble at board level stems from Balmains dire financial position.
Hopefully, they can continue to contribute the required 50% to keep things on an even keel. Otherwise, opportunists will see it as an opportunity to gain more power for themselves. That can't be good.

 

[gazroc]

If you are concerned about the merger, you only have to look at the lack of games being played at Campbelltown! 4 games a year, it is no way to establish a new merger. I am hearing very strong mail that the Western Sydney Wanderers are looking to establish their base there.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Was Tim Sheens the glue?

 

[Knuckles]

If you are concerned about the merger, you only have to look at the lack of games being played at Campbelltown! 4 games a year, it is no way to establish a new merger. I am hearing very strong mail that the Western Sydney Wanderers are looking to establish their base there.

If true, that will add weight to a ground upgrade.
They really need to do something about that ground.

 

[diedpretty]

If the NRL steps in and restructures it will cease to be so and every busted down old fossil can piss right off as the mighty Wests Tigers continue to forge their own history

That may be true smeg but i'm sure Wests Ashfield are going to have a big say with the amount of coin they are putting in.

 

[Aubanon]

If the NRL steps in and restructures it will cease to be so and every busted down old fossil can piss right off as the mighty Wests Tigers continue to forge their own history

That may be true smeg but i'm sure Wests Ashfield are going to have a big say with the amount of coin they are putting in.

And how much coin is that exactly?

It costs around 12-15 mil a year to run a club of which the NRL puts in around half. Too many on here seem to think just cause wests put in more than balmain that they are somehow the majority stakeholder n this JV.

Fact is the NRL is the one stumping up the big dollars. Time for them to demand changes in this fractured organisation.

 

[diedpretty]

If the NRL steps in and restructures it will cease to be so and every busted down old fossil can piss right off as the mighty Wests Tigers continue to forge their own history

That may be true smeg but i'm sure Wests Ashfield are going to have a big say with the amount of coin they are putting in.

And how much coin is that exactly?

It costs around 12-15 mil a year to run a club of which the NRL puts in around half. Too many on here seem to think just cause wests put in more than balmain that they are somehow the majority stakeholder n this JV.

Fact is the NRL is the one stumping up the big dollars. Time for them to demand changes in this fractured organisation.

I don't know how much they put in but what i do know is they put in more than Balmain and Wests Campbelltown combined - i also know that if they pull the plug Wests Tigers will be in dire trouble and end up a financial basket case like Cronulla.

 

[innsaneink]

Was Tim Sheens the glue?

Rust.

 

[pHyR3]

NRL gives around 7 million right now. To cover the 1st and 2nd tier caps I assume. They have complete control over the Wests Tigers if they so wish.

 

[diedpretty]

What i don't understand is all this paranoia about Wests Ashfield - from what i have read on here they are very much behind the Wests Tigers remaining as a football and business entity - i believe that if the board is restructured to a more independent model Wests Ashfield as the major financial contributor outside of the NRL would want to have input as to who makes up that board - and that doesn't mean stacking it with Wests fogeys.