The factions.

@tiger05 said:
@MacDougall said:
It's just differing opinions mate. There is no real agenda's around. For something to be an agenda is has to be carried by someone with the power to change something imo.

And that is what a forum is meant to be about.

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I don't agree with the opinions of Tiger05 regarding his usage of Moltzen, but I agree he is entitled to HAVE an opinion regarding the usage of Moltzen.

and MY opinion is this thread does stink of agenda.
 
A few posts have been deleted and edited…..please try and provide some substance to supprt your beliefs rather than childish taunts which are useless to the thread.
 
I would like to apologise for blaming Sheens for the loss against Bunnies.
I like Sheens and the culture he has built,
but his continual use of Moltzen, and the lack of agression in players makes me angry towards him.

Call it an agenda or whatever, but for last week, I'm sorry, esp. to Yossarian..

As for this thread, I kinda see what you're getting at Ink.
It's just some people though,
they can do w.e they like and place their opinion however they want.
But just like my Sheens' hatred, hope they don't ignore other people's opinions
and the fact.
 
@Geo. said:
@king sirro said:
Sorry, just saying ive seen many times when you have asked for examples when someone is posting something that "groups" forum users in a certain catagory of belief. You saying the forum is doing this and doing that with agenda's and it should be noted, i agree, but i know u can back it up with examples…..go all the way.

Ill start, Tiger05 against Lui
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The entire forum just about v Moltzen>>>>>>

next…

Its all the tryhard coaches against sheens as well that think they know it all which gets very annoying.
 
@tiger05 said:
@happy tiger said:
@tiger05 said:
@king sirro said:
Ill start, Tiger05 against Lui

Ink - I understand your out of your depth whenever someone disagrees with you but your thread is pretty weak. Go on grow a pair.

I just can't believe that you still think that Moltzen is the answer at fullback and MacKinnon is not . I'm not criticising you but it is ok to say you have it wrong mate and having a personal dig at Ink when 95% of people agree with him , I just scratch my head :wtf

No - Ink starts a thread to try and have a go at me and it is pretty pathetic in my opinion. I'd call it unmanly.

I am allowed my opinion on McKinnon and Lui and Moltzen and Ink can debate against it but coming up with a thread detailing factions and the like is childish at best.

Yeah cant argue with that tiger05….. and happy hes got a love for moltzen and hes aloud to just like your love for fulton.What i cant believe is either people dont have memorys or they are hypocrits.
 
Many times I've read posts by tiges 05 and either haven't agreed or fully understood what he's saying, but at the end of the day the blokes entitled to support the team and any individual in it!

If he thinks one blokes better suited to a position than another then he's allowed to argue it until the cows come home. He's got no power to change what's happening, he just wants to argue his point for what he sees as the best option for the TEAM.

That's what makes this thread so pathetic, it shows a complete lack of respect for certain peoples opinions and de-values the overall reason forums are set up in the first place.

People will have agendas and it may make for tiresome reading, but it gets really tiresome when others keep responding, which causes it to degenerate into a slanging match….........just like this thread!

It may actually also reflect where this team is, at the moment - it's fractured.
 
And I bet Fulton's price tag is about half of Moltzens price tag and has been proven in NRL since 2005 . If you are trying to compare Moltzen to Fulton ….. You are trying to compare apples and oranges T4E. They are 2 completely different arguments . And the only reason I raised anything T4E was that he had a shot at Ink Ink did not even bring up point if you read back throough the thread . It was someone else . Starting an argument is far more important to you than the facts
 
@happy tiger said:
And I bet Fulton's price tag is about half of Moltzens price tag and has been proven in NRL since 2005 . If you are trying to compare Moltzen to Fulton ….. You are trying to compare apples and oranges T4E. They are 2 completely different arguments . And the only reason I raised anything T4E was that he had a shot at Ink Ink did not even bring up point if you read back throough the thread . It was someone else . Starting an argument is far more important to you than the facts

No not starting a arguement just pointing out a FACT YOU LOVE FULTON and he loves moltzen.thats just you guessing anyone can do that.
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You seem to think your opinion is gospel though
 
@tiger4ever said:
@happy tiger said:
And I bet Fulton's price tag is about half of Moltzens price tag and has been proven in NRL since 2005 . If you are trying to compare Moltzen to Fulton ….. You are trying to compare apples and oranges T4E. They are 2 completely different arguments . And the only reason I raised anything T4E was that he had a shot at Ink Ink did not even bring up point if you read back throough the thread . It was someone else . Starting an argument is far more important to you than the facts

No not starting a arguement just pointing out a FACT YOU LOVE FULTON and he loves moltzen.thats just you guessing anyone can do that.
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You seem to think your opinion is gospel though

Can't remember saying that or thinking that T4E And yes I think Fulton is better utilty value than Moltzen at this stage .
 
I'm not criticising you but it is ok to say you have it wrong mate and having a personal dig at Ink when 95% of people agree with him , I just scratch my head that your words …tell me what that comes across like.

I was just saying your arguement to keep fulton was he apparently plays 7 positions :unamused: but you dont mind getting rid of moltzen who also has very good utility value in the backs which we need more so wheres the logic there is all im saying.Everytime i have pointed your inconsistent opinions you either say im starting a arguement or im a troll remember.

look at the topic FACTIONS and this is exactly what hes talking about you with fulton tiger05 witH moltzen.....me im not a groupie or have favourites my fav is wests tigers and the people who run it which i have respect for.The players can shape up or ship out
 
@tiger4ever said:
I'm not criticising you but it is ok to say you have it wrong mate and having a personal dig at Ink when 95% of people agree with him , I just scratch my head that your words …tell me what that comes across like.

I was just saying your arguement to keep fulton was he apparently plays 7 positions :unamused: but you dont mind getting rid of moltzen who also has very good utility value in the backs which we need more so wheres the logic there is all im saying.Everytime i have pointed your inconsistent opinions you either say im starting a arguement or im a troll remember.

look at the topic FACTIONS and this is exactly what hes talking about you with fulton tiger05 witH moltzen.....me im not a groupie or have favourites my fav is wests tigers and the people who run it which i have respect for.The players can shape up or ship out

Your the one who thinks that I think that my opinions Gospel . Champ I picked Parra to make the 8 and Cowboys to get wooden spoon I get it wrong as much as anyone ,but at least I OWN my mistakes or wrong opinions . And to say I'm a part of a faction , I give my opinion and could not give a toss what others opinions or whether they have made 1 post or 1 million (Your criticism of me Remember)
 
factions? nope, but the consensus seems to change it's tune very quickly here

Only a month or so ago everyone was saying McKinnon was "over the hill" and Brown was a million times better

And as for Moltzen, well from 2009 to the St George semi everyone was all for him at 7 because Lui "was a passenger and too young".

right or wrong, it's all crazy.
 
@Deano1 said:
Many times I've read posts by tiges 05 and either haven't agreed or fully understood what he's saying, but at the end of the day the blokes entitled to support the team and any individual in it!

If he thinks one blokes better suited to a position than another then he's allowed to argue it until the cows come home. He's got no power to change what's happening, he just wants to argue his point for what he sees as the best option for the TEAM.

That's what makes this thread so pathetic, it shows a complete lack of respect for certain peoples opinions and de-values the overall reason forums are set up in the first place.

People will have agendas and it may make for tiresome reading, but it gets really tiresome when others keep responding, which causes it to degenerate into a slanging match….........just like this thread!

It may actually also reflect where this team is, at the moment - it's fractured.

Glad to see you agree….despite you thinking its pathetic.

Maybe we all could just make statements, have no replies.

In the past theres been Fitzhenry, and theres been Morris....and now theres Moltzen....

My point which due to either frustration at last nights game, being tired or maybe a bit of both is I see the fane base dividing and its disappointing, its dividing into groups favouring one player over other players when really ity should all be about support for the TEAM.

I dunno why, its different now, in the past theres been fitzy, theres been Morris, and of course Sheens that divides opinion but imo this is causing a greater division and personally for me its disappointing.

Its something Ive ummed and ahhhed about for some time before posting last night, maybe I subconsciously knew what type of response I'd get.
This isnt personal against any in particular but those that just use it as an opportubnity to get personal well...congrats...good onya.
Old saying in forums "Attack the post - not the poster"
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Only a month or so ago everyone was saying McKinnon was "over the hill" and Brown was a million times better

No...EVERYONE wasnt saying that.
Maybe a few or many were....but thats not everyone.
 
Blame the Wests Tigers marketing team Ink for the 'line that divides'
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