The Future

With Roosters being a candidate for expulsion due to location/lack of juniors but with lots of money, and with Manly the opposite, it seems to be the obvious choice for Roosters and Manly to merge. Call them the Sydney Sea Eagles or something, and encompass everything north of the harbour, lots of juniors but backed by the Roosters money. Hell, call them Norths so we have Norths, Souths, Wests, etc.

Also, seems obvious that St George should incorporate the shire connecting their two footprints. Actually, if we're going crazy, we should incorporate the bulldogs to join our two footprints. That leaves 6 Sydney teams including Penrith.

All sorted.
 
@Tiger-Tarl said in [The Future](/post/1137320) said:
With Roosters being a candidate for expulsion due to location/lack of juniors but with lots of money, and with Manly the opposite, it seems to be the obvious choice for Roosters and Manly to merge. Call them the Sydney Sea Eagles or something, and encompass everything north of the harbour, lots of juniors but backed by the Roosters money. Hell, call them Norths so we have Norths, Souths, Wests, etc.

Also, seems obvious that St George should incorporate the shire connecting their two footprints. Actually, if we're going crazy, we should incorporate the bulldogs to join our two footprints. That leaves 6 Sydney teams including Penrith.

All sorted.

What's on it for the roosters? They're better off letting Manly die then adopt the north shore juniors.

The track record for JV's isn't good. Norths, Balmain and Illawarra are effectively gone from the NRL level.
 
@Tiger-Tarl said in [The Future](/post/1137320) said:
With Roosters being a candidate for expulsion due to location/lack of juniors but with lots of money, and with Manly the opposite, it seems to be the obvious choice for Roosters and Manly to merge. Call them the Sydney Sea Eagles or something, and encompass everything north of the harbour, lots of juniors but backed by the Roosters money. Hell, call them Norths so we have Norths, Souths, Wests, etc.

Also, seems obvious that St George should incorporate the shire connecting their two footprints. Actually, if we're going crazy, we should incorporate the bulldogs to join our two footprints. That leaves 6 Sydney teams including Penrith.

All sorted.

I like the idea of a Roosters Sea Eagles merge
They could be called the Birds
They can have their own equivalent version of Canberra,s Viking clap
But all footy crowds can get involved in this one
Both Home and Away crowds
Instead of "The Viking Clap"
It could be called "The Bird"
Imagine every crowd giving this new team "The Bird" when ever they run onto the field
How good would that be to see
It would make their players feel special
 
@Cairnstigers said in [The Future](/post/1137326) said:
@Tiger-Tarl said in [The Future](/post/1137320) said:
With Roosters being a candidate for expulsion due to location/lack of juniors but with lots of money, and with Manly the opposite, it seems to be the obvious choice for Roosters and Manly to merge. Call them the Sydney Sea Eagles or something, and encompass everything north of the harbour, lots of juniors but backed by the Roosters money. Hell, call them Norths so we have Norths, Souths, Wests, etc.

Also, seems obvious that St George should incorporate the shire connecting their two footprints. Actually, if we're going crazy, we should incorporate the bulldogs to join our two footprints. That leaves 6 Sydney teams including Penrith.

All sorted.

I like the idea of a Roosters Sea Eagles merge
They could be called the Birds
They can have their own equivalent version of Canberra,s Viking clap
But all footy crowds can get involved in this one
Both Home and Away crowds
Instead of "The Viking Clap"
It could be called "The Bird"
Imagine every crowd giving this new team "The Bird" when ever they run onto the field
How good would that be to see
It would make their players feel special


Geez, I needed that laugh!
Thanks @Cairnstigers
 
@Geo said in [The Future](/post/1137125) said:
@happy_tiger said in [The Future](/post/1137117) said:
@Geo said in [The Future](/post/1137109) said:
I don't get the Harry T saviour posts..

I'd be looking more at Lee Hagipantelis....we are in a good position..

One is the richest man in Australia ..the other isn't .....you and Hobbo share a brain don't you ...and at the moment the brain is still in the packet and in transit

Well when one has shown no real interest in putting his hand in his pocket apart from the odd kitchen reno and gym refit and the other has more than tripled the amount of Corporate sponsorship since he came on board I know which horse I'm backing..

If Tigers are about to fold and it's up to Lee or Harry, I wouldn't necessarily back one or another, and I totally respect Lee's financial and now personal time delivery to the club.

But for Harry it would be a drop in the ocean compared to his net worth. And I don't think he's the saviour, I just think we would find out conclusively one way or another if that day came.

I'd be interested to know, and nobody does, how much money Harry T has tipped into the Tigers since his first dollar, compared to Lee H in the last decade or so.
 
I don't think it's ever going to be publicly and specifically detailed as to who gives what to any club.
Club benefactors contribute at times of need and donate what suits the purpose of the time; there are so many variances.
Fiscal survival comes in many forms.
 
Lee H on MMM says we are in a strong position financially and will be ready to go in 2021 if that's what the outcome is for the NRL.
 
Im actually not surprised if we are in a good position.

Our major sponsor is locked in and will pay for the whole year and get the feeling most of our others will too.

We run one of the leanest footy operations so we dont have as much costs as some of the other clubs to cover over and above player wages.

The clun has also a fair bit of cash built up through the foundation over the last 12 months along with building up a signifcant amount of high value partners thier.

Also the club made Harry our first non- playing life member anyone who doesent think he has and still does throw coin in is kidding themselves.

We will still sell a fair bit of merchandise and our leagues club has lots of assets and money in the bank. While they are closed that also means the leagues club has little in the way of costs to cover so wont lose much.
 
@Tiger-Tarl said in [The Future](/post/1137320) said:
With Roosters being a candidate for expulsion due to location/lack of juniors but with lots of money, and with Manly the opposite, it seems to be the obvious choice for Roosters and Manly to merge. Call them the Sydney Sea Eagles or something, and encompass everything north of the harbour, lots of juniors but backed by the Roosters money. Hell, call them Norths so we have Norths, Souths, Wests, etc.

Also, seems obvious that St George should incorporate the shire connecting their two footprints. Actually, if we're going crazy, we should incorporate the bulldogs to join our two footprints. That leaves 6 Sydney teams including Penrith.

All sorted.

Manly Mongoloids has a pretty ring to it
 
@Tiger-Tarl said in [The Future](/post/1136963) said:
So I'm hearing a few contrary reports re. Wests Tigers' security as a club.

On one hand, we're mentioned as one of the more vulnerable clubs. That this crisis may cause us to fold or have to relocate.
On the other hand, I hear we are one of the few clubs that has made a profit in recent years, that we haven't stood down employees and that we are in safe hands.

Which is it? Or does nobody really know? And how do we stand compared to other clubs?

50:50 call ...... like most things nowadays.
And that applies to all clubs. No one is safe in my opinion.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [The Future](/post/1137416) said:
Surely Lee H is susceptible to market forces as well? Should those forces compromise his personal (and family) circumstances, will he be as bullish about the club's future?? Just asking. Me thinks not.

Not really Lawyers seem to thrive in any crises..
 
One thing is for sure in regards to Harry T contribution. The NRL considers him or did consider him too close to the club for 3rd party arrangements. That tells me he isn't just a fan.
 
@Geo said in [The Future](/post/1137418) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [The Future](/post/1137416) said:
Surely Lee H is susceptible to market forces as well? Should those forces compromise his personal (and family) circumstances, will he be as bullish about the club's future?? Just asking. Me thinks not.

Not really Lawyers seem to thrive in any crises..

yep. lawyers and accountants are always needed. Insolvency ain't free.
 
I have to say, locking in our major sponsor as our chairman at a time like this, is almost a masterstroke. Not intentioned, I'm sure. But it definitely means that those funds are less likely to be pulled.

Great to have Lee around
 
@Furious1 said in [The Future](/post/1137425) said:
One thing is for sure in regards to Harry T contribution. The NRL considers him or did consider him too close to the club for 3rd party arrangements. That tells me he isn't just a fan.

Would be a very interesting scenario if he offered to buy the club.
How that would affect our clubland backing I’m not sure.
Although he’s thrown money into the merger for 20 years he was always a Balmain boy.
 
@Furious1 said in [The Future](/post/1137425) said:
One thing is for sure in regards to Harry T contribution. The NRL considers him or did consider him too close to the club for 3rd party arrangements. That tells me he isn't just a fan.

That was when he was a major sponsor.

When he pulled back from that - he was able to enter into third party agreements if he so desired. Whether he is party to that I have no idea.

Don't think Ashfield would sell it to him, even if he wanted to buy it.
 
@hammertime said in [The Future](/post/1137430) said:
I have to say, locking in our major sponsor as our chairman at a time like this, is almost a masterstroke. Not intentioned, I'm sure. But it definitely means that those funds are less likely to be pulled.

Great to have Lee around

Yes, a very smart move having passionate fans with business sense and money on the board.
 
@Russell said in [The Future](/post/1137441) said:
@Furious1 said in [The Future](/post/1137425) said:
One thing is for sure in regards to Harry T contribution. The NRL considers him or did consider him too close to the club for 3rd party arrangements. That tells me he isn't just a fan.

That was when he was a major sponsor.

When he pulled back from that - he was able to enter into third party agreements if he so desired. Whether he is party to that I have no idea.

Don't think Ashfield would sell it to him, even if he wanted to buy it.

I was under the impression it was after he was a major sponsor. Club wanted to use him as a TP sponsor and it was knocked on the head.
Look I don’t really know. Someone here knows a lot more about the inner workings at our club than me.
 
@Furious1 said in [The Future](/post/1137446) said:
@Russell said in [The Future](/post/1137441) said:
@Furious1 said in [The Future](/post/1137425) said:
One thing is for sure in regards to Harry T contribution. The NRL considers him or did consider him too close to the club for 3rd party arrangements. That tells me he isn't just a fan.

That was when he was a major sponsor.

When he pulled back from that - he was able to enter into third party agreements if he so desired. Whether he is party to that I have no idea.

Don't think Ashfield would sell it to him, even if he wanted to buy it.

I was under the impression it was after he was a major sponsor. Club wanted to use him as a TP sponsor and it was knocked on the head.
Look I don’t really know. Someone here knows a lot more about the inner workings at our club than me.

You are correct, after he stopped sponsoring the team we were going to use him as a TPA but the NRL said he was too close to the club having been involved with sponsorship for so long!
 
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