The LEICHHARDT Myth

[Russell]

In terms of win rate, Glenn is on the money here. 60% is a massive win rate for a team that normally clocks in around 42%. Maybe it would be whittled down if we played at LO every second week, but as an occasional event it typically works - we draw decent crowds and we have a good win rate.

Craig Bellamy has an all-time win rate of 67.9% as a coach, and he's considered possibly the best coach of all time. Bennett has win rate 61.5%. Anything in the realm of 60% is very meaningful in a two-horse race, where averages over sufficient time generally equalises win rates to 50% +/- 5%.

I'd say 60% is not a big enough win rate to overlook the money we lose there. And I'm not taking about one off 17k crowds. Ave of 12k in 19 sessions.
Storms win rate is 75% at Aami. But we won't measure ourselves against the best. We're the also rans.

You misunderstand the ANZ deal. WE ARE NOT LOSING MONEY at Leichhardt because under the current deal with ANZ, we would not receive a $ if the Leichhardt game was at ANZ. ANZ are happy for us to have low drawing games away from ANZ because they carry the risk and THEY lose money on small crowds. The FIRM LUMP SUM deal is worked out on this basis. Therefore we have the game at Leichhardt we make a small amount of $$ on these games and the punters are happy. Win/Win (except for on the field).

Storms win rate is 75% at AAMI because they win rate EVERYWHERE is high. Our win rate away from Leichhardt is around 40%.

You keep on talking about ANZ. I'm talking about LO. We lose money playing there despite what you think.
Repeating that we make a profit there over and over wont make it a fact.

It is not a matter of repeating - it is fact.

Crowds of approx. 11-12000 aT Leichhardt return a profit.

Crowds of less than that show a loss.

It is not difficult to comprehend this - or is it?

 

[gallagher]

It must be.

 

[Glennb]

It must be.

Indeed it must

 

[happy_tiger]

I think the Tigers / Leichhardt council are really stupid in holding onto the oval as their sacred ground. If they had any brains they’d remove the Tigers exclusivity and lease the to ground to the NRL for other teams to play their. We all know based on our last performances that it’s lost it’s lure as a spiritual ground. Why not share it around and make some money out of it???

Sell the ground outright to the NRL

At least the NRL would then possibly at least have something to show for the money the FTA and pay rights they have got over the years

As Paul Kent said look at the AFL got less money from the FTA/pay deals and end up with Etihad Stadium as an asset

Our only asset is Peter Beattie 😱pen_mouth:

 

[jadtiger]

I think the Tigers / Leichhardt council are really stupid in holding onto the oval as their sacred ground. If they had any brains they’d remove the Tigers exclusivity and lease the to ground to the NRL for other teams to play their. We all know based on our last performances that it’s lost it’s lure as a spiritual ground. Why not share it around and make some money out of it???

Sell the ground outright to the NRL

At least the NRL would then possibly at least have something to show for the money the FTA and pay rights they have got over the years

As Paul Kent said look at the AFL got less money from the FTA/pay deals and end up with Etihad Stadium as an asset

Our only asset is Peter Beattie 😱pen_mouth:

You cant sell something you dont own Happy.The council owns the ground we just lease it

 

[Russell]

Same with CSS.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think the Tigers / Leichhardt council are really stupid in holding onto the oval as their sacred ground. If they had any brains they’d remove the Tigers exclusivity and lease the to ground to the NRL for other teams to play their. We all know based on our last performances that it’s lost it’s lure as a spiritual ground. Why not share it around and make some money out of it???

Sell the ground outright to the NRL

At least the NRL would then possibly at least have something to show for the money the FTA and pay rights they have got over the years

As Paul Kent said look at the AFL got less money from the FTA/pay deals and end up with Etihad Stadium as an asset

Our only asset is Peter Beattie 😱pen_mouth:

You cant sell something you dont own Happy.The council owns the ground we just lease it

Sorry you misunderstood , Council sells it to the NRL , NRL could develop it as a living Museum of League

 

[Russell]

I think the Tigers / Leichhardt council are really stupid in holding onto the oval as their sacred ground. If they had any brains they’d remove the Tigers exclusivity and lease the to ground to the NRL for other teams to play their. We all know based on our last performances that it’s lost it’s lure as a spiritual ground. Why not share it around and make some money out of it???

Sell the ground outright to the NRL

At least the NRL would then possibly at least have something to show for the money the FTA and pay rights they have got over the years

As Paul Kent said look at the AFL got less money from the FTA/pay deals and end up with Etihad Stadium as an asset

Our only asset is Peter Beattie 😱pen_mouth:

You cant sell something you dont own Happy.The council owns the ground we just lease it

Sorry you misunderstood , Council sells it to the NRL , NRL could develop it as a living Museum of League

You're having yourself on if you think Leichhardt Council will sell the oval - they would all be castrated.

 

[Needaname]

Sell the ground outright to the NRL

At least the NRL would then possibly at least have something to show for the money the FTA and pay rights they have got over the years

As Paul Kent said look at the AFL got less money from the FTA/pay deals and end up with Etihad Stadium as an asset

Our only asset is Peter Beattie 😱pen_mouth:

You cant sell something you dont own Happy.The council owns the ground we just lease it

Sorry you misunderstood , Council sells it to the NRL , NRL could develop it as a living Museum of League

You're having yourself on if you think Leichhardt Council will sell the oval - they would all be castrated.

That’s why I said Lease!

 

[magpiecol]

Sell the ground outright to the NRL

At least the NRL would then possibly at least have something to show for the money the FTA and pay rights they have got over the years

As Paul Kent said look at the AFL got less money from the FTA/pay deals and end up with Etihad Stadium as an asset

Our only asset is Peter Beattie 😱pen_mouth:

You cant sell something you dont own Happy.The council owns the ground we just lease it

Sorry you misunderstood , Council sells it to the NRL , NRL could develop it as a living Museum of League

You're having yourself on if you think Leichhardt Council will sell the oval - they would all be castrated.

It's a Greens Council. Already been done.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

You know what sucks when there are no Wests Tigers games at Suncorp or Cbus in a season…

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

You know what sucks when there are no Wests Tigers games at Suncorp or Cbus in a season…

Damn, I look forward to our annual rogering by the Broncos at Suncorp…

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The time will come soon enough I think. If it comes down to playing at Leichhardt or having a secure financial future I know which I'm going with though.

I say that as someone who has spent many Sunday afternoons at LO and think the place is the eighth wonder of the world. Leichhardt means nothing if there is no Wests Tigers.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Leichhardt is a fortress for the Titans. I think they've won three in a row there, though that may include Campbelltown.
There's no safe place anymore for a team on the downward spiral.

Last year Titans beat us at Campbelltown, almost exactly a year ago (23/6/17) Crowd 9000

Can we get the last 3 years..Id say win/losses would be fairly even at both suburban home grounds..

Geo, can you please fix the thread title as it is doing my head in every time that I see it.

 

[Geo]

Leichhardt is a fortress for the Titans. I think they've won three in a row there, though that may include Campbelltown.
There's no safe place anymore for a team on the downward spiral.

Last year Titans beat us at Campbelltown, almost exactly a year ago (23/6/17) Crowd 9000

Can we get the last 3 years..Id say win/losses would be fairly even at both suburban home grounds..

Geo, can you please fix the thread title as it is doing my head in every time that I see it.

Ok m8

 

[tsjonathan]

do the tigers have any chance to make the 8 anymore in 2018?

 

[Glennb]

do the tigers have any chance to make the 8 anymore in 2018?

Mathematically….yes
Realistically....no

 

[tsjonathan]

do the tigers have any chance to make the 8 anymore in 2018?

Mathematically….yes
Realistically....no

ta glenn

 

[LCA]

It’s hard to disagree Needaname. The crowds that turn up to Brookvale and Shark Park have historically annoyed me because I’ve always felt like the fans that go there are not really rugby league fans… it’s just an event on their social calendar. Sadly I think Leichhardt is heading the same way.

No, I disagree. From my vantage point of Bay 2 in the main stand, watching the crowd thronging away from the hill with 15min to go, it was clear that it was the diehard (probably Balmain) Tigers fans who had just been disappointed (again) by the outcome of another crunch game at Leichhardt.

I agree fully with the thinking that the impact of LO is overrated on the performance of the team. But that doesn't detract from the "experience" of being at LO on a Sunday arvo. I know the expectations of the fans are raised by the LO impact on outcome, but there's precious little evidence to support it. But it's still a great thing to be a part of.

In my member allocated seats in Bay 2, I just saw the rusted-on Wests Tigers fans. No "event seekers". No wanna-be's just there for the thrill of it….why would you bother? It was the heart and soul of the club. They, and we, deserve better than what we got in terms of the result. But, will it change anything....? I don't think so.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Last year Titans beat us at Campbelltown, almost exactly a year ago (23/6/17) Crowd 9000

Can we get the last 3 years..Id say win/losses would be fairly even at both suburban home grounds..

Geo, can you please fix the thread title as it is doing my head in every time that I see it.

Ok m8

Thanks. It is still the terrible first effort at the top of a new page, but at least we don't see it in the recent topics list all the time.