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@CTigersWinComp said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1034343) said:@jadtiger
Teddy didnt run away, he gave us all he could returning the faith that we gave him when he broke his leg on Debut Liecharddt oval Rnd 1 me and the old man standing room near granstand. The way he repaid us was not only with his football and enthusiasm, but he renegged on a nice deal with the Canberra Raiders to stay with us and his mates, nothing but loyal Tedesco, but i would have sold 16 players to keep him and build a yound team around him lol
@jadtiger said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1033151) said:@CTigersWinComp said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1033149) said:I think if the price is right like low enough yes, then let him prove himself in our colours, before any silly splurge, we have to clean up our multi millions of dollars Ivan bought of first grade players First!, before any bigger sontracts are offered to anyone really. im very happy with the signing of Jake Simpkin (lookout fellas!!) but must, must keep Liddle (so talented with not enough opportunity to shine with the years behind Robbie. but until we can fix the books give young inhouse a go, from our wealth of juniors. (Just look at all the players the tigers let go for end of career reserve grade players) like need i say no more James Tedesco..... Invest in our junours heavily who accept lower contracts until Books are cleaned. What do you think of Esan Masters? i havent been happy lately feeling hes copped a knock or a deadset good tackle end of last year, or early this year and is not the same turning back in hit ups. please tigers just let Benji kick goals or lawrence, anyone, let Esan focus on improving his game improving his football to his full potential,
We didnt let Tedesco go he ran away as fast as he could from us not once but twice.He has zero loyalty
@gallagher said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1034365) said:@jadtiger said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1033151) said:@CTigersWinComp said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1033149) said:I think if the price is right like low enough yes, then let him prove himself in our colours, before any silly splurge, we have to clean up our multi millions of dollars Ivan bought of first grade players First!, before any bigger sontracts are offered to anyone really. im very happy with the signing of Jake Simpkin (lookout fellas!!) but must, must keep Liddle (so talented with not enough opportunity to shine with the years behind Robbie. but until we can fix the books give young inhouse a go, from our wealth of juniors. (Just look at all the players the tigers let go for end of career reserve grade players) like need i say no more James Tedesco..... Invest in our junours heavily who accept lower contracts until Books are cleaned. What do you think of Esan Masters? i havent been happy lately feeling hes copped a knock or a deadset good tackle end of last year, or early this year and is not the same turning back in hit ups. please tigers just let Benji kick goals or lawrence, anyone, let Esan focus on improving his game improving his football to his full potential,
We didnt let Tedesco go he ran away as fast as he could from us not once but twice.He has zero loyalty
No loyalty but plenty of smarts.
@CTigersWinComp said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1034346) said:I cant see that JT, he deserves all he gets ive got nothing but good words and respect for him and think he did right by us and finally deserved to be in a much better team of many more stars of similar quality and a winning culture club and NSW and Australian Rep Just Too Good im sure we produced him
@jirskyr said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1035364) said:@CTigersWinComp said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1034346) said:I cant see that JT, he deserves all he gets ive got nothing but good words and respect for him and think he did right by us and finally deserved to be in a much better team of many more stars of similar quality and a winning culture club and NSW and Australian Rep Just Too Good im sure we produced him
I think you are in the minority there.
The concept you put forward - he deserved to be in a "better team" with "more stars" and "winning culture"... makes me sick. What you are talking about is the specific reason that the salary cap exists, because if all the elite players ever do is want to play with other elite players, then the comp is forever lop-sided.
And they wouldn't be playing for Roosters, they'd all be playing for Broncos. Don't ever be mistaken that if they ever remove the salary cap, Broncos have the money and the benefactors to buy everyone.
No, the best players in the world make their team better, bring their team-mates to their level. That is why I can respect Cooper Cronk, because he's not just a great footballer, but he makes his entire side better. He organises, he lifts, he leads the way. Tedesco is a great talent but he's not a team player, he's an individual talent.
Tigers will never be competitive if any decent players leave because they want to play for "better" sides. It is self-fulfilling, because you can't become a better side if you always lose your best players.
So the idea that you are cool with that, that you think Tedesco spent enough time at the club and it was now time to let him go and find success - I detest that idea. Tedesco is a self-interested mercenary. He has accepted a bigger offer from a rival club EVERY time he's been off contract. If I was Roosters, I'd either have a very big paper bag ready in 2 seasons, or be prepared for other clubs to drop massive offers on Tedesco - offers, from history, that he's a very good chance of taking.
Tedesco is just Glenn Morrison Mk II, except that it didn't work out for Morrison the way he'd hoped.
@notarealtiger said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1035452) said:@jirskyr said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1035364) said:@CTigersWinComp said in [The Mole: Wests Tigers circling Manly centre](/post/1034346) said:I cant see that JT, he deserves all he gets ive got nothing but good words and respect for him and think he did right by us and finally deserved to be in a much better team of many more stars of similar quality and a winning culture club and NSW and Australian Rep Just Too Good im sure we produced him
I think you are in the minority there.
The concept you put forward - he deserved to be in a "better team" with "more stars" and "winning culture"... makes me sick. What you are talking about is the specific reason that the salary cap exists, because if all the elite players ever do is want to play with other elite players, then the comp is forever lop-sided.
And they wouldn't be playing for Roosters, they'd all be playing for Broncos. Don't ever be mistaken that if they ever remove the salary cap, Broncos have the money and the benefactors to buy everyone.
No, the best players in the world make their team better, bring their team-mates to their level. That is why I can respect Cooper Cronk, because he's not just a great footballer, but he makes his entire side better. He organises, he lifts, he leads the way. Tedesco is a great talent but he's not a team player, he's an individual talent.
Tigers will never be competitive if any decent players leave because they want to play for "better" sides. It is self-fulfilling, because you can't become a better side if you always lose your best players.
So the idea that you are cool with that, that you think Tedesco spent enough time at the club and it was now time to let him go and find success - I detest that idea. Tedesco is a self-interested mercenary. He has accepted a bigger offer from a rival club EVERY time he's been off contract. If I was Roosters, I'd either have a very big paper bag ready in 2 seasons, or be prepared for other clubs to drop massive offers on Tedesco - offers, from history, that he's a very good chance of taking.
Tedesco is just Glenn Morrison Mk II, except that it didn't work out for Morrison the way he'd hoped.
Whole heartedly agree. But Teddy didn't leave for more money this time, he left for the chance to win premierships. Pretty sure we offered over a million for him and he's on the books at the Roosters for around 800k. He wanted to be a winner at all costs, and take the easy way to get there, which is pretty common for athletes these days (look at Kevin Durant going to the Warriors, even Cronk choosing to go to the Roosters etc). Glory seems to Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon money and loyalty these days.