Tigers board to undertake post-season review

@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?
 
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473774) said:
Word is Russell Packer is taking over the review. $3.2 million over 4 years.

Yes but we will see many decoy reviews ....
 
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can't attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.
 
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473992) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side

You an insomniac bro?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

Heard a simple quote on an NFL show yesterday which applies in many discussions on here.

“Great players make great coaches”

Hard to find an example to disprove this theory.
 
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

Nah, just wanted to know how relevant your comments were.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473992) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side


Are they willing to give it a go??
 
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

Because the players are incompetent. Yes the coach motivates, develops and prepares the team, but if the players are subpar and have minimal carefactor, then there's no coach in the world that can make them world beaters. Madge has copped enough heat, time for the players to put their hands up and ask themselves some honest questions.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....


When I have seen no defensive structure for 3 seasons you can blame the players all you like , the bottom line is Maguire surrounded himself with very poor assistants this was his doing if he was a good coach he would of rectified the situation:
Maguire is done get over it !
 
@demps said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473993) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473992) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side

You an insomniac bro?

Was waiting for WHU's first European game ......
 
@tcat said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1474001) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

Because the players are incompetent. Yes the coach motivates, develops and prepares the team, but if the players are subpar and have minimal carefactor, then there's no coach in the world that can make them world beaters. Madge has copped enough heat, time for the players to put their hands up and ask themselves some honest questions.


At the end of the day, and at the rising of the sun, people are more highly motivated for their own reasons.
Sure it’s the coaches job to identify those reasons and help individuals to stay on track with their goals. I’m sure all coaches would be doing this with varying levels of success.
During the first 10 minutes of all the 2021 games, is there a single one where Nofa hasn’t given the ball to the opposition? Is that part of the game plan?
 
@twentyforty said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473998) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473992) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side


Are they willing to give it a go??

We are getting a bit old ...but the entire pack played either for Australia , Qld or NRL and we had real strike centre with speed ..oh and by the way ...first Open Qld schoolboy side to beat NSW ...we had an age group desceprancy to deal with .....
 
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

Or maybe they aren't good enough to do it. Who on this forum really knows what is happening - no-one?You drawing conclusions to suit your perception of Madge without knowing didly squat apart from we are losing games.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1474030) said:
@twentyforty said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473998) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473992) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side


Are they willing to give it a go??

We are getting a bit old ...but the entire pack played either for Australia , Qld or NRL and we had real strike centre with speed ..oh and by the way ...first Open Qld schoolboy side to beat NSW ...we had an age group desceprancy to deal with .....

Rowdy?
 
@twentyforty said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1474036) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1474030) said:
@twentyforty said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473998) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473992) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473989) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473970) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473942) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473871) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473770) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472527) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472523) said:
@mike said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472519) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472133) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472132) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472131) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1472126) said:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

My state schoolboy side from 35 years ago could have beaten our side


Are they willing to give it a go??

We are getting a bit old ...but the entire pack played either for Australia , Qld or NRL and we had real strike centre with speed ..oh and by the way ...first Open Qld schoolboy side to beat NSW ...we had an age group desceprancy to deal with .....

Rowdy?

Qlder bro .....Renouf .......
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473988) said:
@animal-mother said in [Tigers board to undertake post\-season review](/post/1473972) said:
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https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....

Happy I am the first to agree our roster is bog average, but even bog average players you expects to see some improvement. Bar a couple of players and as a collective unit they went backwards. I remember many moons ago when I was a school, I was bog average at history, than this unbelievably good teacher came along and pulled my grades up from bottom to top five in the class. Not saying a new coach can do that with this roster, but if he can improve them 1% it’s better than going backwards by 10%
 
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