Tigers future

[jirskyr]

I don’t think our success will come from copying other clubs.

5 each Campbelltown and Leichhardt. 1 game Tamworth, one game homebush forEaster Monday. Means we can ditch the nomad label, connect with our two areas and still bring in some cash with Tamworth and Easter game.

Media love Leichhardt, huge amount of growth/potential in Campbelltown. Play to our strengths. Reserve grade need to at very minimum play half games at campbelltown, half at lidcombe. COE in concord is good but now need an academy in MacArthur.

Challenge is money. We need to cover the money we gain from deal with stadiums nsw. don’t think that’s impossible though hard to know as a fan.

LO and CSS don't have the same draw for the corporate $, though looking at the Western Stand on Friday I don't know what corporate support we are getting at Bankwest either.

Totally. Really hard to know as a fan how many corporate boxes are getting sold and for how much at each respective stadium. But still think that is just soemthing that needs to be overcome through other means rather than a reason to keep playing at Bankwest.

It is hard, LO is one of my favourite places in the world but I think it is getting close to being below the standard for a modern top level sports team.

Nah, its awesome lol. Honestly I don't really buy into the whole "facilities are too old" narrative. People rock up, have a great time, go home and are safe the whole time. As long as no one is at risk and people turn up then they're good enough surely?

They don't rock up though, we average more at the big grounds than LO can hold. The averages aren't even close.

Tha not true and not a single Sydney club averages more than 22,000 (capacity of both Leichhardt and Campbelltown). Would be good to get a proper break down of attendances...ie not just average over all but broken down to time slots and Sydney opposition vs non Sydney opposition. As has been mentioned, since 2011 stadiums nsw gets to pick which games are played and Leichhardt and Campbelltown get the rest - hence so many games va Titans at campbelltown for instance.

Yeah I think the primary driver is the "premium" matches get played at Bankwest / Homebush and the traditional homes get the rest. And it makes sense, both from a COVID perspective and a maximum crowd perspective.

For example, Tigers v Parramatta on Easter Monday has become a real institution, extra long weekend and it's typically been mid-autumn warm. I haven't looked up the averages but it would be > 20K. If you played that match at LO and probably CSS you'd probably sell it out.

Interestingly we have Penrith this week at LO, being front-runners, then Rabbitohs at LO in the first week of July. Wouldn't normally expect to see these clubs at LO and I expect it will have a positive impact on crowds. We haven't played Rabbits at LO or CSS (don't think we've ever played them at CSS) since 2007, and back then we used to do it about once per year - between 2002 and 2007 (6 matches) the average LO attendance for a Rabbits game was 17,711, and that includes one match of 9,502 (2003), the others were all above 16K.

 

[Tiger5150]

10 ANZ/Liverpool
1 Cambo
1 Leichhardt

that's it. optional trip to the bush and Magic Round home game.


Why? What is your reasoning/logic? What about low drawing games at large stadia and the losses incurred?

we're assured a certain amount of money by signing deals with the big stadium companies i.e ANZ, Bankwest etc. also need to build a strong home base and stop being nomads. bite the bullet and get it done.

We are assured a certain amount of money with the ONE (its a monopoly) stadia company based on the particular games we have there and it is based on the crowds they draw. If we get $X for 10 games, we do not get 1.3x$X for 13 because the other three are against lowest drawing teams and it costs money.

The deal with stadia is based on the games they want, they dont want WT v NQ because they wont get the crowds they need.

 

[jirskyr]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

 

[mike]

THank god someone started another thread on whether we should have one home ground and where it should be, I was at a loss for an opportunity to discuss it.

I understand the logic of the discussion, I understand both sides of the arguement (I like the current set up). I dont understand or agree with the idea that it would "fix" the Tigers. There is no logic behind it. Our ground situation is not impacting support.

We are mid table for Sydney Clubs for crowds and Membership. **WE HAVE NOT MADE THE 8 IN OVER TEN YEARS.** Fix the football side end of story. If we were a consistent top 4 team, the home ground situation would solve itself.

No it won’t. Don’t you want to give fans the best game day experience possible? LO & CSS just don’t cut it. I want the equivalent of Suncorp and the new SFS. They set the bar on what fans should expect.


You are asking the wrong bloke. For me the members seats at LO is the best game day experience in RL.........but disregarding that...

If the Tigers got to the consistent top 4 level of a Panthers/Souffs/Roosters, the home ground situation will solve itself because we will start drawing larger crowds and it will probably start to cost (opportunity cost) the Tigers money to play at LO or CSS and will be more profitable to move even the low drawing crowds to the big stadia. That is simply not the case now.

Right now we will draw less against NQ at Homebush than LO, if/when we are a top 4 club, we wont.

Sorry but it just won’t. LO and CSS are just dinosaurs grounds, not suitable for the 21st century.


Did you even read what I said? I said if we were regularly top 4 we wouldnt be playing at LO & CSS. What is the point in talking to me if you dont listen to what Im saying?

Sorry misread your post. In the future, for whatever reason, If it’s not LO or CSS which ground would you prefer?

 

[Tiger5150]

THank god someone started another thread on whether we should have one home ground and where it should be, I was at a loss for an opportunity to discuss it.

I understand the logic of the discussion, I understand both sides of the arguement (I like the current set up). I dont understand or agree with the idea that it would "fix" the Tigers. There is no logic behind it. Our ground situation is not impacting support.

We are mid table for Sydney Clubs for crowds and Membership. **WE HAVE NOT MADE THE 8 IN OVER TEN YEARS.** Fix the football side end of story. If we were a consistent top 4 team, the home ground situation would solve itself.

No it won’t. Don’t you want to give fans the best game day experience possible? LO & CSS just don’t cut it. I want the equivalent of Suncorp and the new SFS. They set the bar on what fans should expect.


You are asking the wrong bloke. For me the members seats at LO is the best game day experience in RL.........but disregarding that...

If the Tigers got to the consistent top 4 level of a Panthers/Souffs/Roosters, the home ground situation will solve itself because we will start drawing larger crowds and it will probably start to cost (opportunity cost) the Tigers money to play at LO or CSS and will be more profitable to move even the low drawing crowds to the big stadia. That is simply not the case now.

Right now we will draw less against NQ at Homebush than LO, if/when we are a top 4 club, we wont.

Sorry but it just won’t. LO and CSS are just dinosaurs grounds, not suitable for the 21st century.


Did you even read what I said? I said if we were regularly top 4 we wouldnt be playing at LO & CSS. What is the point in talking to me if you dont listen to what Im saying?

Sorry misread your post. In the future, for whatever reason, If it’s not LO or CSS which ground would you prefer?

Genuinely dont know. None of them good options. Probably the new SFS but IMO the location is not ideal.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

 

[twentyforty]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

 

[cochise]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

 

[BAGNF05]

Cochise makes a fair point. Sorry don’t know how to reply. However I understand that our membership is sitting at around 20000 so it confuses me why that at what would be one of our more premier home games on a Friday night could only fetch nine. There are also people who just buy traditional tickets so it’s just a bit baffling to me. Same with Campbelltown against titans and roosters.

I’m a member who is not going to travel 4 hours (return) until the team find their shoulders. When was the last time we won two in a row? I’m not inclined to make the effort when many of the team aren’t.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

 

[twentyforty]

I must have stumbled onto the wrong thread? 🤪
I thought this thread was about WT survival and revival? Hell we can’t be playing footy as long as One child is sleeping rough now? Where were you when I was a kid sleeping on the street?

 

[cochise]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

 

[pawsandclaws1]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

Its not even a start

That was probably said in 1972 when a former RAAF navigator wanted

Women to receive equal pay for equal work,

the single mother's benefit,

contraceptives not subject to sales tax

Access to preschool education for all children under five.

Free university for all.

 

[trentrunciman]

In terms players isn’t the jersey Flagg side undefeated?

That’s something to look forward to for the future isn’t it? Unless they all get signed by other clubs which invariably happens

 

[TheDaBoss]

In terms players isn’t the jersey Flagg side undefeated?

That’s something to look forward to for the future isn’t it? Unless they all get signed by other clubs which invariably happens

In terms players isn’t the jersey Flagg side undefeated?

That’s something to look forward to for the future isn’t it? Unless they all get signed by other clubs which invariably happens

Jersey and KOE all up thr top

 

[BZN]

It is ridiculous that an area that is second in size only to Penrith is virtually abandoned by our club

BuT tHe ArEa DoEsN’t EmBrAcE US

Maybe because we are only out there for 3 games a year. Kind of like blaming a child for not embracing a deadbeat dad who only comes to see the child 3 times a year.

Agree :100: @GNR4LIFE.
How can we expect 15,000 + Wests Tigers fans to attend games regularly at Campbelltown when We only play 3 games per year there, and mostly against unattractive visiting teams.
The only fans that will attend those games are the die hards.

How can Wests Tigers attract **new** die hard fans from the local area when we mostly play unattractive visiting teams there :thinking_face: .

As has been mentioned on here many times re people from various parts of Sydney moving to the rapidly expanding South West, they take their Rabbits, Eels or Roosters allegiance with them.
But also mentioned on here, the kids dont always follow their parents allegiance. A large number of the kids will decide to follow the local team to have that in common with their new mates.

I have nothing to gain from Wests Tigers relocating from the Inner West to the South West or the Central Coast or Perth.
But I strongly believe we will miss out on a once in a lifetime opportunity if we dont embrace the South West.
Rather than our State Govt paying mega $$$ to build a new stadium in Liverpool, they pay a lot less $$$ for a major upgrade to C.S.S., and the Bulldogs can share Our stadium :+1: .

Now for a totally out there idea :flushed: , but I have suggested it before.....Wests Tigers approach the NRL to pay for our relocation to Campbelltown, as they would if we were to relocate to Perth.
Surely Wests Ashfield would be agreeable as they would recoup all or most of the $$$ they have put in already.

Wests Tigers are on the verge of a new and exciting era :ghost: :grin: .
I feel it's now the right time to expand on that excitement and embrace :hugging_face: the South West.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

I don’t think our success will come from copying other clubs.

5 each Campbelltown and Leichhardt. 1 game Tamworth, one game homebush forEaster Monday. Means we can ditch the nomad label, connect with our two areas and still bring in some cash with Tamworth and Easter game.

Media love Leichhardt, huge amount of growth/potential in Campbelltown. Play to our strengths. Reserve grade need to at very minimum play half games at campbelltown, half at lidcombe. COE in concord is good but now need an academy in MacArthur.

Challenge is money. We need to cover the money we gain from deal with stadiums nsw. don’t think that’s impossible though hard to know as a fan.

LO and CSS don't have the same draw for the corporate $, though looking at the Western Stand on Friday I don't know what corporate support we are getting at Bankwest either.

How do the Dragons manage it ..
They’re pretty much in the same boat as us with Kogarah & Wollongong

WOLLONGONG ONE TEAM TOWN

 

[jirskyr]

As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

Anyone would think the government is saying "hospital or stadium, not both".

 

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As an interstate member for a decade now, i rarely get to games but when I do it is always Liechhardt or a few times Campbelltown.

That being said, with the COE complete next year, I think the next big move is we should find a home ground. With the NSW gov throwing money for stadiums, what about a Bankwest style stadium in Liverpool... good middle ground... maybe one big exhibition game at Leichhardt each season... make an event out of it. Would be a sell out...

Regardless, the future is bright.

The Club is an inner west centric operation. We have a huge stadium nearby. Why spend scare public monies on more stadiums when health, social housing and education are far more pressing concerns?

Health, housing and education will always be "pressing concerns" so when would any time be the right time to spend the public purse on stadiums?

Also a short-sighted argument from paws. You build entertainment facilities, not just for fun and social well-being, but because they ultimately generate income for the state as a whole. For example, NSW Govt have done a long-term deal with the NRL to keep the Grand Final in Sydney, even though it costs them money to secure the deal, in the long-run the city makes money from tourism, investment, sponsorship etc.

I'm not a fan of a new Liverpool stadium, not because of funding, but because of the location. Liverpool is a hole. I'd rather the redevelopment of Homebush as originally planned. Then you have Parra - Homebush - SFS corridor of major stadia. Liverpool can have one in 10-15 years when the 2nd airport is done and the region has matured.

The RBA recognises investment in human Capital via education and training will increase the productive capacity of our nation.

https://rba.gov.au/speeches/2015/sp-ag-2015-03-11.html#fn4

No one had a bigger picture view of this than Gough Whitlam synonymous with free university education.

Give me a choice of spending scare resources on a football stadium or education, (and health and public housing), it is an easy choice.

Of course it’s a no brainer, but since when did we have to choose between them. We can build infrastructure and educate our kids at the same time. Can’t we?

We have finite resources.

How about we revert to free university education for all?

How about more funding for brain cancer research?

More public housing so kids don't have to sleep on the street and victims of dv have a refuge.

To me, the opportunity cost of a Liverpool Stadium is too great.

We can get free university education for all for $300m?

It's certainly a start. Rather than a kid from Claymore going to a football stadium at Liverpool, he or she could travel to ANZ and go to university for free.

It's not even a drop in the ocean. $300M would offset approx 10 thousand completed undergrad university degrees ($10K per year for 3 years undergrad - and this is already government subsidised).

In 2020 76K kids completed the HSC, so you could fund ~13% of university degrees of one year of school leavers, with $300M.

Even if you then made it dependent on income, whose income - the now 18-year old adult, or the parents? There are already subsidies for Abstudy, Austudy (if they are still called that) etc.