TIGERS Rozelle Development

[Patts]

The timeline for Balmain to become financially viable has just been pushed out another 2 to 3 years. Unfortunately for them I think they will have relinquished their remaining 25% ownership of the Wests Tigers by then.

 

[Harvey]

Who brokered the wonderful deal for the land?

 

[mctiger]

This just continues as a bureaucratic nightmare.

With the Westconnex tunnel supposed to cut out 60-70% of the traffic around the Victoria Rd + Darling St intersection, that would surely pave the way for the argument that impacts on parking will be negligible. And would boost the number of shoppers to the community.

Perhaps the tunnel hasn't been 100% ratified yet so they can't consider it with these applications.

Here is a link to the judgement - https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/57eb11f5e4b0e71e17f54633

It's detailed but when taking off my "Balmain glasses" - it's hard to argue the decision.

 

[balmain boy]

This just continues as a bureaucratic nightmare.

With the Westconnex tunnel supposed to cut out 60-70% of the traffic around the Victoria Rd + Darling St intersection, that would surely pave the way for the argument that impacts on parking will be negligible. And would boost the number of shoppers to the community.

Perhaps the tunnel hasn't been 100% ratified yet so they can't consider it with these applications.

Here is a link to the judgement - https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/57eb11f5e4b0e71e17f54633

It's detailed but when taking off my "Balmain glasses" - it's hard to argue the decision.

Thanks MC, a nice bit of light reading for a Friday afternoon!

It doesn't surprise me that the development didn't factor in the community enough. And i never believes that BLC would survive there, especially if only given a smaller floor space to from than before. They used a press release by BLC spoon fed to them by the Village, in accordance with their contractual obligations, to demonstrate the club's long term viability is laughable. "Look they themselves said it would be great for their future! - Yes, but you had a gun against their head at the time!"

Rozelle Village has just been an unmitigated disaster from start to finish. I doubt they'd ever come up with a design which embraces the community. Their arguments seems whimsical and poorly prepared. Hopefully they sell on to someone else who might.

 

[Benjirific]

This just continues as a bureaucratic nightmare.

With the Westconnex tunnel supposed to cut out 60-70% of the traffic around the Victoria Rd + Darling St intersection, that would surely pave the way for the argument that impacts on parking will be negligible. And would boost the number of shoppers to the community.

Perhaps the tunnel hasn't been 100% ratified yet so they can't consider it with these applications.

Here is a link to the judgement - https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/57eb11f5e4b0e71e17f54633

It's detailed but when taking off my "Balmain glasses" - it's hard to argue the decision.

Having lived in the area my whole life, I would certainly argue the point about retail. The area is just a wasteland for basic shopping, and it brings the look of the whole community down.

Traffic was always going to be the major issue, and the argument around that is way too big picture for any of the NIMBY locals to accept.

Considering this DA that has been refused by the Court was fully compliant according to a number of council staff, you really have to wonder if they'll ever accept any proposal on that site that isn't just a two story house. A real shame & real missed opportunity for both the club & the area.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

This just continues as a bureaucratic nightmare.

With the Westconnex tunnel supposed to cut out 60-70% of the traffic around the Victoria Rd + Darling St intersection, that would surely pave the way for the argument that impacts on parking will be negligible. And would boost the number of shoppers to the community.

Perhaps the tunnel hasn't been 100% ratified yet so they can't consider it with these applications.

Here is a link to the judgement - https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/57eb11f5e4b0e71e17f54633

It's detailed but when taking off my "Balmain glasses" - it's hard to argue the decision.

Having lived in the area my whole life, I would certainly argue the point about retail. The area is just a wasteland for basic shopping, and it brings the look of the whole community down.

Traffic was always going to be the major issue, and the argument around that is way too big picture for any of the NIMBY locals to accept.

Considering this DA that has been refused by the Court was fully compliant according to a number of council staff, you really have to wonder if they'll ever accept any proposal on that site that isn't just a two story house. A real shame & real missed opportunity for both the club & the area.

If we are referring to those 2 enormous towers I doubt they would be compliant. The latest fashion in Sydney is for some units to have no car spaces at all and they all use public transport. The buyers could get a big discount as the builders are saving a fortune on less space and more units. The buyers sign an agreement to not bring any car home but have limited parking for visitors.

 

[innsaneink]

This just continues as a bureaucratic nightmare.

With the Westconnex tunnel supposed to cut out 60-70% of the traffic around the Victoria Rd + Darling St intersection, that would surely pave the way for the argument that impacts on parking will be negligible. And would boost the number of shoppers to the community.

Perhaps the tunnel hasn't been 100% ratified yet so they can't consider it with these applications.

Here is a link to the judgement - https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/57eb11f5e4b0e71e17f54633

It's detailed but when taking off my "Balmain glasses" - it's hard to argue the decision.

Having lived in the area my whole life, I would certainly argue the point about retail. The area is just a wasteland for basic shopping, and it brings the look of the whole community down.

Traffic was always going to be the major issue, and the argument around that is way too big picture for any of the NIMBY locals to accept.

Considering this DA that has been refused by the Court was fully compliant according to a number of council staff, you really have to wonder if they'll ever accept any proposal on that site that isn't just a two story house. A real shame & real missed opportunity for both the club & the area.

If we are referring to those 2 enormous towers I doubt they would be compliant. The latest fashion in Sydney is for some units to have no car spaces at all and they all use public transport. The buyers could get a big discount as the builders are saving a fortune on less space and more units. The buyers sign an agreement to not bring any car home but have limited parking for visitors.

That is the plan for the Bankstown rail line which will be shut down for months and replaced with buses.
Major residential developments at every station between Sydneyham and Bankstown.. (unsure on no car spaces) but the locality is to encourage public transport usage… Something like 36000 new apartments going up
Will be a nightmare for commuters

 

[cqtiger]

And all the info that I have read is that Sydney's inner suburbs will be screaming for new accommodation. City planners will be asking for more high rise apartments to handle buyer needs.

Too much traffic? God forbid you live in in a dense population area, not a suburb of Rockhampton.

I've been to China and all new housing is high rise. Authorities should plan for the future, not the past.

 

[balmain boy]

This just continues as a bureaucratic nightmare.

With the Westconnex tunnel supposed to cut out 60-70% of the traffic around the Victoria Rd + Darling St intersection, that would surely pave the way for the argument that impacts on parking will be negligible. And would boost the number of shoppers to the community.

Perhaps the tunnel hasn't been 100% ratified yet so they can't consider it with these applications.

Here is a link to the judgement - https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/57eb11f5e4b0e71e17f54633

It's detailed but when taking off my "Balmain glasses" - it's hard to argue the decision.

Having lived in the area my whole life, I would certainly argue the point about retail. The area is just a wasteland for basic shopping, and it brings the look of the whole community down.

Traffic was always going to be the major issue, and the argument around that is way too big picture for any of the NIMBY locals to accept.

Considering this DA that has been refused by the Court was fully compliant according to a number of council staff, you really have to wonder if they'll ever accept any proposal on that site that isn't just a two story house. A real shame & real missed opportunity for both the club & the area.

I think the application was compliant with the maximum height of buildings for which the plans were first created however Leichhardt council voted about a year ago to downgrade what was permissible on the site.

As i said if the Westconnex tunnel wasn't able to be included in the plans then no traffic is already congested enough. The southern side of darling st is fairly rubbish, though getting better, but the northern part from Victoria rd up is still thriving. Especially with so many businesses relocating from Balmain to Rozelle due to the much cheaper rents.

It really wouldn't surprise me whatsoever that the application didn't want to open itself up to other retail shops but solely wanted to look after it's own tenants. They had included a footbridge using land they did not own nor have permission to build on, pretty ridiculous.

And the leagues club was going to die within years of opening at that site. Smaller premises than before, with higher rent and a weaker demographic as many of their former members have since died or moved out of the area.

I want the club back but i want it to be able to survive for one, and be part of a new development which helps the whole community. From the sounds of it the reails shops not in this development on the southern side of vic rd would have all died as everyone would park in the new place, visit their shops and find it hard to get back to darling street. Ending in more abandoned shops on the streetfront.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

es lo que es…

Pretty much the death knell for Balmain now you'd imagine. What a shit end for a once great club...

 

[Go_Moltzen]

Greens & Balmain-Rozelle residents are winning the battle of Rozelle & will win the war. Actually the war was lost years ago when imbecilic club management & shifty businessmen knifed us in the back.
**There will be no new Balmain Leagues Club at Rozelle** but there will be a goat farm & gluten free bakery (not open on Sundays & public holidays of course).
Going forward we will once again be kept in the dark & have to speculate re: what action Wests Ashfield will take to keep a team in the NRL.

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

I patiently wait for the day when the headline is 'Good News' for the former club at Rozelle.

 

[Needaname]

Greens & Balmain-Rozelle residents are winning the battle of Rozelle & will win the war. Actually the war was lost years ago when imbecilic club management & shifty businessmen knifed us in the back.
**There will be no new Balmain Leagues Club at Rozelle** but there will be a goat farm & gluten free bakery (not open on Sundays & public holidays of course).
Going forward we will once again be kept in the dark & have to speculate re: what action Wests Ashfield will take to keep a team in the NRL.

You make a good point there, I really can see the space becoming a community growers garden or something once the developers knick off.
I just don't get it, I love balmain the club and all, but I don't expect much of these trendy artsy farts myself included, to give 2 thumbs up about a old fashioned leagues club, he'll half the pubs aren't pubs in Balmain /Rozelle anymore.
Why doesn't the club just bite the bullet and try and establish themselves in an area where it is a little bit more knock about, Croydon or Petersham or something. They aren't going to be restablishing this place once again in Rozelle,
I bet those developers wouldn't be knocked back if that bottom floor was an extra 4 units and not a 'CLUB'
Why don't the tigers request to put a gym on that ground floor instead, would definiitly have more chance of adding something that the communitee can use. Go look at another area to build the club in.
Silly silly people, should of bought the Appia club when they were basically knocking on their front door to sell it. What's that a leagues club right next to your home ground? Oh that will never work 😱pen_mouth: …. Rant over!

 

[innsaneink]

Its up for sale

http://property.cbre.com.au/properties/138-156-victoria-road-waterloo-darling-streets-rozelle-nsw-2039/

 

[gallagher]

If harry wants to help out balmain, this would be his opportunity .

 

[Tiger_Bond]

I pray Harry buys this and does his magic

 

[Geo]

I will pay what Benny paid…$1..

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Its up for sale

http://property.cbre.com.au/properties/138-156-victoria-road-waterloo-darling-streets-rozelle-nsw-2039/

Gee,that's a surprise,the previous DA's where laughable and designed to fail,what a mess!

 

[Blackpearl]

Its up for sale

http://property.cbre.com.au/properties/138-156-victoria-road-waterloo-darling-streets-rozelle-nsw-2039/

almost two acres up for sale in prime location.
sale price could be anything

 

[Harvey]

If harry wants to help out balmain, this would be his opportunity .

Why would he buy it? Specializes in apartment development, and the basket weaving council have already showed their views on allowing medium/high density residential development on the site.