TIGERS Rozelle Development

[cktiger]

There are only 2 entities that caused the original ideas to fail .
Those are the previous State Labor government and the (still currently Green controlled) local council.
As for Darcy Byrne - always looking for a headline with his name in it.

Actually wrong on both counts CQ. Labour current controls the council - Darcy has been the Mayor again since about July I think.

The other entity that caused the applications to fail is Rozelle Village. To propose 2x 30+ storeys apartment complexes in a location whose zoning only allowed a maximum of 12\. Even if they hoped for some stretching of the current zonings, expecting them to be tripled was sheer madness. Of course the state governments planning division blocked it. It was ridiculously gargantuan and made no attempt to facilitate the traffic concerns that an extra couple of thousand residents would have on the area.

Ian Wright and his cronies are 1000% to blame for this. I'm a die-hard Balmain fan and want the leagues club back, but the previous applications were just an illogical and diabolical mess.

As for Darcy, he is a politician and will sure enough not come true on all his promises. He has a higher profile than any other local members other than maybe Jamie Parker State and Tanya Plibersek (federal). Of the local ones his 'fame' keeps getting him elected and to be fair he does want to help the Tigers more than anyone else on the council so having him in charge isn't really a bad thing. Can't take everything he says as gospel though.

Don't get me mixed up with CQ, BB - he's sick of getting blamed for what I write lol.
My reference to the state government was in regards to the famous backflip on the light rail, and then the council advising the Tigers to buy all the surrounding properties to get the thing approved.
As far as I know every developer pushes the boundaries and then works to the middle ground.
They have revised more than once and have put in plans that meet state government regulations and still 'good ole Darcy' complains.
The greenies might not have the mayor but they still seem to control what's happening.
Darcy is all about Darcy - I don't think he cares anymore about the Tigers than to get another mention in the paper.

 

[hammertime]

Looks like the main Leichhardt green (Porteous) isn't winning any favors with Baird..

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/angry-crowd-jeers-premier-mike-baird-over-council-amalgamation-proposals/story-fni0cx12-1227565889701?sv=7b8765dac91114f3051b37e17e033076

I reckon this is why the developer is clinging on. As soon as the councils are merged, they will have a better shot. The balance of power should swing away from the Greens.

Also, I think it's extremely unfair for Darcy to propose the developer to give the Tigers the space for free after what goodwill the council have burnt from constant deferrals and shifting the goalposts. But if they are really serious about having them stay in the community, why don't they negotiate to buy the space for the Tigers themselves (or half-half). They are still holding a $750k bond from the developer and according to this article, they are in an "excellent financial position".

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/innerwest-councils-jostle-to-choose-bedfellows-ahead-of-fit-for-the-future-deadline-20150525-gh93nc.html

Might as well spend the cash on the community that raised it before the amalgamations.

 

[Yossarian]

Darcy Byrne enjoys getting cred for his alleged support for Balmain and does nada to actually help. His latest height limit shows his true support for any development on that site.

 

[hammertime]

This is interesting. Looks like Darcy might be finally pushing back on the Greenies. Hope he keeps it up!

http://portjackson.nsw.greens.org.au/bid-to-rezone-tigers-site-up-in-the-air/

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[ferret]

:roll Weststigers should be given legal ownership of the premisses fullstop!

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Postby ferret » Wed 28 Oct, 2015 9:12 pm
:roll Weststigers should be given legal ownership of the premisses fullstop!

ferret, I have no idea in law your idea but on sacred grounds alone it should stand up - the blood that has been spilt there. (not meaning to deride the native rights terminology)

 

[balmain boy]

The site has absolutely nothing to do with WT, you realise this right Byron?

I think you mean it should be given to the Balmain Tigers…

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Balmain Boy » Thu 29 Oct, 2015 12:34 pm

The site has absolutely nothing to do with WT, you realise this right Byron?

I think you mean it should be given to the Balmain Tigers…

Byron Bay Fan: I was only carelessly copying ferret's post, of course Rozelle for struggling Balmain Tigers - even as a Magpie fan I appreciated that the Tigers with Big Artie were something special. Your trouble is that gentrified Balmain area probably sees themselves above league and they keep both their arms for counting money. regards

 

[hammertime]

Balmain Boy » Thu 29 Oct, 2015 12:34 pm

The site has absolutely nothing to do with WT, you realise this right Byron?

I think you mean it should be given to the Balmain Tigers…

Byron Bay Fan: I was only carelessly copying ferret's post, of course Rozelle for struggling Balmain Tigers - even as a Magpie fan I appreciated that the Tigers with Big Artie were something special. Your trouble is that gentrified Balmain area probably sees themselves above league and they keep both their arms for counting money. regards

I'm in Rozelle, living next to some hardcore doggies supporters. The area hasn't gone to snob level yet mate….especially if I have anything to do with it. Hopefully will get rid of all the kale eating, latte sipping hippies at some point.

Maybe the council almagamations will force some of the NIMBYs out.

 

[innsaneink]

Byron…..top right corner, quotation marks..click it on the post your replying to, and you reply with quote...

...easier for all concerned

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Byron…..top right corner, quotation marks..click it on the post your replying to, and you reply with quote...

...easier for all concerned

thanks, I discovered that then promptly forgotten - due to working long late hours.

I remember having a nice kangaroo steak at the Club some years back - if had been a few years later could have been Robbie hide - laughing

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

There is an article in today's SMH re the deadline for the tigers resuming the Rozelle site fading ….................
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/balmain-tigers-set-to-lose-right-of-return-in-rozelle-as-development-deadline-looms-20151111-gkwfug.html

 

[glebe_tiger]

Site could be resold.
Hello Harry T.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Site could be resold.
Hello Harry T.

I think too late now - Harry was a Farah fan according to the same newspaper. But I hope so for the club.

The Tigers were in shocking debt $23M year ago. How did that come about?

 

[cktiger]

There is an article in today's SMH re the deadline for the tigers resuming the Rozelle site fading ….................
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/balmain-tigers-set-to-lose-right-of-return-in-rozelle-as-development-deadline-looms-20151111-gkwfug.html

Good old Darcy - says one thing and then does the opposite….what a surprise.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

from the article:
The financially embattled club, which sold its headquarters to Rozelle Village for $1 in 2009 in return for the developer taking on its $23.5 million debts, had taken out an injunction to prevent any bid by the company to place it into receivership. It still owes Rozelle Village about $11 million.

BBF: why does the Club owe Rozelle Village $11M? Because the project did not go ahead? Has the club paid any money to Rozelle Village?

 

[innsaneink]

Byrne might mean well…. Honestly its hard to follow just where he stands...,but For him to get involved in Facebook stouches with people shows how amateur he is

 

[angry_ant]

from the article:
The financially embattled club, which sold its headquarters to Rozelle Village for $1 in 2009 in return for the developer taking on its $23.5 million debts, had taken out an injunction to prevent any bid by the company to place it into receivership. It still owes Rozelle Village about $11 million.

BBF: why does the Club owe Rozelle Village $11M? Because the project did not go ahead? Has the club paid any money to Rozelle Village?

In July 2009 BLC entered into a loan agreement with Pacific Link Investment an associated entity of Rozelle Village for a total of $4,500,000\. The term of the loan was for 3 years. This had been extended by agreement.The purpose of this loan was to meet BLC working capital shortfalls over a 3 year period.This loan has been fully drawn down. In November 2009 BLC entered into a loan agreement with Rozelle Village for $3,100,000 the purpose of this loan was to fit-out two new club premises in Five Dock and Flemington. The term of this loan was 5 years. This had been extended by agreement. This loan has been fully drawn down. With capitalised and accrued interest the total amount owing is approximately $11,000,000\. The repayment date is November 2015.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

thank you very much.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Rozelle no longer right for Tigers
The sooner the fantasy of the Balmain Tigers' return to Rozelle is put to rest, the better ("Tigers may never go home", November 14-15). As stated in your article, the Tigers left the Rozelle premises because of a $23.5 million debt and they cannot afford to come back.
The demographic of the area has changed massively. Today's residents don't waste their money on "playing the pokies" so the Tigers will be denied the income stream needed for their survival.
The misnamed "Rozelle Village" is using this matter as a smokescreen to gain approval for yet another totally inappropriate development on the site so that it can sell it.
Leichhardt Council should not give in to the "Rozelle Village" bid for increased development space. Nor should council accept ownership of the new club premises under any circumstances. Ratepayers should not be associated in any way with this venture.
Marina Garlick Balmain

the above from the SMH letters column todays edition
It seems that this Balmain lady is not a Tigers fan at all. And while we are at it how come Tigers have a premises at Flemington which is Magpies territory?