innsaneink
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*Popcorn box running low*
Time to make the magpie more visible.
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@AmericanHistoryX said:
Sorry wasn't aware you were. The argument changes page by page - one minute it's about the money being pumped in, then it's about the JV agreement, now all this. A
I'm not going to do a point by point reply on every single point a lot of which is beyond the control of the club. Who's stopping Hanley being placed in the Magpies Hall of Fame? Where do you want the club to train? Campbelltown?
I think I've made my point of view clear, I'm not sure what else you want me to say? The JV was Wests (that's the Magpies 50%) Tigers (Balmain's 50%). But now you want the Magpie on everything from the jumper on the grounds wherever. If the team was called Balmain Magpies I wouldn't be demanding the Tiger being paraded.
The facts are the name Balmain disappears completely from senior football from next year. if you look at the official shop nearly everything is mostly black or mostly white - very little of the stuff is predominantly orange which is the identifiable colour of Balmain. The actual Balmain Tiger logo has never featured on WT jumpers. A quick look over at the Magpies forum shows the kind of respect shown for Balmain and their history. Personally I have a lot of respect for Wests and I was happy that they emerged as the JV partner for Balmain. When we had 2 functioning state cup teams I was supportive of the Magpies, I still check out the Magpies junior results.
FWIW I'm not opposed to having the Magpie on the sleeve nor do I have any objection to the colour white being used in merchandise or on jumpers. Some things can be changed by the club - let's get them fixed. Some things are the fault of the media.
AmericanHistoryX
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All I want to hear from you Yoss is that you do hear that WSFL1981 made some valid points, that is, if you do concede that there is some validity in some of the issues stated.
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AmericanHistoryX
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Sorry, make that WTFL1981.
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Benjirific
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Sabre is completely right, this is not the club's problem, it's the people's problem. **WE** are WESTS TIGERS. We are NOT the Magpies, and we are NOT Balmain. Of all the clubs in the NRL except maybe Souths we acknowledge our history the best.
But in reply to this whole thread - we are not the Magpies, end of story.The quicker people accept this and move on, the quicker we can become a united force, but until this happens the split in this joint-venture will continue to hold us back.
But in reply to this whole thread - we are not the Magpies, end of story.The quicker people accept this and move on, the quicker we can become a united force, but until this happens the split in this joint-venture will continue to hold us back.
happy_tiger
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@Tiger Watto said:
Don't worry mate I'm a Wests and Collingwood supporter and they use to chase me up the 1st and the ninth and the 13th and 14th
Probably says more about my golf game than it does the magpies
If only they understood I wasn't aiming for the trees 😱pen_mouth:
@AmericanHistoryX said:
Mate I've never said there wasn't. In fact my main beef during this thread has been the reasons raised by some posters, namely that somehow money buys you more of a say (which I'd object to not just here but in a lot of other circumstances) and the constant mention of a JV agreement that nobody is ever able to produce.
It would be nice for though to get some concession that Balmain has also given up a hell of a lot. The WT is NOT Balmain - I've supported both clubs pretty damn passionately and I find that a fairly insulting comment to make. I can certainly tell the difference.
tigermaniac
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@Yossarian said:
Yoss you take and twist post out of anger, make up what you think is the right way to start an argument, make assumptions, and all this with hidden agendas. You put words in people's mouths, and you now what is said. Let me keep it simple, you hate the Magpies, just say it and move on. You think people will cry because you said it. But one thing is for sure, from now on I'll be looking at your posts and take my spin out of what your trying to say. Then you will see how difficult is to deal on club issues.
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@tigermaniac said:
Mate, first calm down. Second I don't hate the Magpies at all but apparently anyone who puts up a POV not shared by you does. Thirdly I haven't twisted anything put if you feel I have give me the specific example and I'll be happy to look at it again.
Last I checked this is a forum. If you start up a post you have to expect that some people will agree and some will disagree. Your opening post said the Magpies clearly linked the size of the magpie to the size of the financial contribution they put it. All I've said is that isn't an appropriate way to handle these type of things.
AmericanHistoryX
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@wtfl1981 said:
Must have been a Freudian slip. Glad it worked out though in the end.
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Isn't everybody tired of this?
There is one mascot for the team and it is a TIGER!
I have always pushed that we never forget both teams histories but the Magpie is no more relevant than the word 'Balmain' is to the current jersey.
If you want to be fair have BOTH old logos on the jersey , one on each shoulder.
Otherwise it's time to get rid of the Magpie - not make it bigger.
There is one mascot for the team and it is a TIGER!
I have always pushed that we never forget both teams histories but the Magpie is no more relevant than the word 'Balmain' is to the current jersey.
If you want to be fair have BOTH old logos on the jersey , one on each shoulder.
Otherwise it's time to get rid of the Magpie - not make it bigger.
@cktiger said:
Get the magpie right and leave it alone. Its been there since day one and unique to WT (no other team including wests magpies have had a magpie on the sleeve)
The magpie on the sleeve is a nod to Wests history and legacy. It has ZERO impact on diminishing the tigers brand or mascot identity.
I can ask the same question re leagues club. Does ashfield now remove the magpie from its big sign on the front and put a tiger in its place? I don't think so. Its a major backer of WT but surely does not want to wipe out all traces of magpie identity.. Campbelltown maybe a bit different but ashfield certainly not.
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Tiger_Watto
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Ashfield re-brand the Club to Wests Tigers Ashfield over the next 5 years… That's the next step!
Karma_Tiger
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@Tiger Watto said:
Has a better name to it than ryde eastwood tigers wouldnt you say watto.Your agenda is great on turning all things Wests into tigers asap.But as a former Balmain fan I must say that" RYDE EASTWOOD HAS BEEN GIVEN MORE RESPECT THAN WESTERN SUBURBS" in this joint venture in the last few years.Yes, Ryde Eastwood the club who is a 0% owner of the JV.I can tell you from my vast experience in the corporate world if you shit on 50% of your supporters(and who provides closer to 80% of resources re players and money) you go from being cactus to a little obnoxious weed in no time.
@wtfl1981 said:
Funny how you cannot get past yourself to see anything else.
Of course a Magpie on the sleeve is unique to WT - so what?
Does that make it right?
Wests Magpies don't have it on the sleeve because it features on their jersey - after all , they're called the Magpies.
If you are quite happy to have a Magpie on the sleeve as a 'nod' to the history and legacy of Wests (and I've said before I can live with that) will you be prepared to give up one of the sleeves so we can put the old Balmain logo there as a nod to the history and legacy of Balmain?
GNR4LIFE
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Lets put Tim Moltzen logo's on both sleeves and that will be one less poster complaining in this thread i gaurentee that
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