Top 25 contracted playing squad / Elijah Taylor - Farah.

[stevetiger]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

I can see Milone causing problems to our cap in a couple of years time.

 

[Muffstar]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

maybe Woods instead of Milone ?

 

[tigerman80]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

I can see Milone causing problems to our cap in a couple of years time.

I heard Milone is next in line for the number 9\. Getting a 4 year back ended contract lol

I think Ballin is the number 3 in our top 4.

 

[boonboon]

Earlier in the year I posted the club's top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O'Neill's arrival….

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

**And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles.** Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

The club doesn't choose who to promote to a top 25\. It is based simply and purely on who is in the top 25 paid players. This is why Milone was promoted because he was on a contract including TPA's is my understanding for more the anyone else left. This makes some sense because he had played FG before 2016 unlike the rest who were below him and also my understanding is he actually has a TPA from a 3rd part sponsor who is friends of the famiy which boosts him up and hence makes him top 25 money. It doesen't matter who has more potential or who has played better in 2016

 

[LARDS]

Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; **Cherrington**; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!

I thought Cherrington was gone to sharks for next year?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; **Cherrington**; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!

I thought Cherrington was gone to sharks for next year?

He's talking about the squad for this yr.

 

[Nelson]

Rudd and Gillard. No.1 and No.2 on the worst Prime Minister list.

They got things done alright. Put us in debt until the cows come home.

:roll :roll

Yeah I'm not commenting on the policies, just the ability to get things done. Being a negotiator in that role is a lot more effective than being a brawler when you don't have the numbers. Anyway, this is about as off topic as it gets so I'll stop talking about it now…

 

[Tigerdave]

Very good TT and Farah won't be here next year? shouldn't be surprised I guess.

Regardless of the drama and everyone, I wouldn't mind seeing him reach 250 for us, he was playing decent enough off the bench.

Anyway, hopefully that will secure ET and that all the ducks are lined up in a row to keep our top 4.

 

[WestsSupporter]

>Farah gone.
>ET re-signed.
>Me happy.

 

[Geo]

Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; **Cherrington**; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!

I thought Cherrington was gone to sharks for next year?

In an earlier post TT said Cherrington had signed with the Panthers but had a get out clause should Farah no longer be with the Club…so not sure what the go is with the Sharks...

 

[bp_tiger]

I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah's comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and ….... over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

oh byron bay i have to take u to task on ur comment ( such a remarkable woman) she was the worse PM this country has ever had and she put woman back 20 years with all that crap that came out of her mouth. ur entitled to ur opinion but i had to comment.

Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

How did Kevin Rudd compare with Julia?

on rudd, if i was calling a horse race i would call it gillard by a nose, both will go down as fools.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Well that update from Tiger Torch would have settled down some who having desperately trying to the see the back on Robbie on this forum.
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Sad end to a club legend..BUT life goes on
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Oh yeah, we gonna miss out on Von-millers comments on this

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; **Cherrington**; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!

I thought Cherrington was gone to sharks for next year?

Personally i rather that

If Ballin hangs around we have Liddle and then if 851's Mate Rankin hangs around we might have another hooker in the making lol

So Cherro can go and perhaps free whatever little coin he was on to contribute towards the ET fund

 

[bp_tiger]

Earlier in the year I posted the club's top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O'Neill's arrival….

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

**And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles.** Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

The club doesn't choose who to promote to a top 25\. It is based simply and purely on who is in the top 25 paid players. This is why Milone was promoted because he was on a contract including TPA's is my understanding for more the anyone else left. This makes some sense because he had played FG before 2016 unlike the rest who were below him and also my understanding is he actually has a TPA from a 3rd part sponsor who is friends of the famiy which boosts him up and hence makes him top 25 money. It doesen't matter who has more potential or who has played better in 2016

so thats why this waste of space kept getting picked, because he came with his own TPA. SO FOR ALL U WOULD BE 1ST GRADERS get ur self a TPA before u go to grade and it will get u picked in front of more talented players. really sends a great message out.

 

[Guest]

>Farah gone.
>ET re-signed.
>Me happy.

Simple, but sums it up nicely. Thanks once again for the updates TT, ver informative and appreciated by all here.

 

[Newtown]

For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)

Just joining some dots here. Assume Moses is ranked 2nd and Milone is 3rd?

I can see Milone causing problems to our cap in a couple of years time.

I heard Milone is next in line for the number 9\. Getting a 4 year back ended contract lol

I think Ballin is the number 3 in our top 4.

I don't think Milone will be causing the same type of problems which Jason Taylor has currently been experiencing.

 

[tigermac88]

Earlier in the year I posted the club's top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O'Neill's arrival….

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

**And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles.** Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

The club doesn't choose who to promote to a top 25\. It is based simply and purely on who is in the top 25 paid players. This is why Milone was promoted because he was on a contract including TPA's is my understanding for more the anyone else left. This makes some sense because he had played FG before 2016 unlike the rest who were below him and also my understanding is he actually has a TPA from a 3rd part sponsor who is friends of the famiy which boosts him up and hence makes him top 25 money. It doesen't matter who has more potential or who has played better in 2016

Are you sure this is right?? Because TT said JT assembled his squad before O'Neill arrived, I took that as JT picking his top 25.

 

[sideline_eye]

oh byron bay i have to take u to task on ur comment ( such a remarkable woman) she was the worse PM this country has ever had and she put woman back 20 years with all that crap that came out of her mouth. ur entitled to ur opinion but i had to comment.

Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

She was an effective politician which doesn't mean she was likeable, or necessarily honourable, or that she always said the right thing, but she did get things done.

Rudd and Gillard. No.1 and No.2 on the worst Prime Minister list.

They got things done alright. Put us in debt until the cows come home.

:roll :roll

How about we all stay on topic? There is a place for politics on this forum and this isn't it.

 

[Tiger_Torch]

Earlier in the year I posted the club's top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O'Neill's arrival….

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles. Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

Here's all I know at present re the above:
Milone may retire due to a recurrent knee injury but at the very least will not be in the top 25 next year! Sponsorhip expires end of year …..
Ballin is considering his future, but the club is very keen to retain him in some capacity if indeed he can't play due to injury - he will cost us $200k next year / this year $80k.
Tatola has received an offer at the same time as Felise - still no word on what he will do, has received lukewarm interest from elsewhere.
Kharwin has shown poor attitude at training minimum $80k offer has been rejected by him, don't know what he will do. Lack of genuine pace an issue.
Marsters signed up for 2 yrs and highly and regarded - trying to increase his effective minutes.
Suli, Stone & Jacobs I don't have any reliable info, I happen to know one of them personally, but still don't have anything to share.
Contrary to what has been reported the club is still trying to negotiate a settlement with Melb to release JAC. To date this appears to be the only major blunder under Pascoe's reign and as I reported previously JAC signed with Melb while Pascoe was away on extended leave from work on private business, despite leaving instructions that he wanted the final say on JAC - apparently this was not properly communicated to JAC management. JAC desperately wants to stay and be in the top 25 squad next year but this appears to be a remote chance with Melb asking for $200k comp / JAC 's 3 year Melb deal is only worth $460k + incentives.
Cherrington's deal with Penrith was withdrawn in July which was the deadline imposed based on a likely decision re Farah saga - he will move on to Cronulla on a 1 year deal / Liddle now outperforming him in all kpis.
Its important to note that next year there could be as many as 6 vacant spots ( exits: Farah; Halatau; Cherrington; Hunt; Milone; possibly Sirro) in our top 25 roster - maybe the forum should try to pick who the newbies will be will be from our existing squads / I don't anticipate a huge intake of fresh talent.
Personal view only: Robbie Farah is a WT legend no iffs or buts, but his time has come. He no longer has any support in the areas that matter perhaps apart from 1 sponsor. I have no personal relationship with Robbie and despite all I know / don't know, I respect him for what he did for us on the field. I don't want to dwell on the fact that he now has probably killed off any prospect of a role with the WTs after he retires - there would be any number I roles that I thought he could have handled quite capably. Its a real shame but needs to be resolved and Pascoe will ensure this happens as equitably as possible. Please believe me when I say the club is in good shape, it bears no resemblance to the 'inmates running the asylum' of a few years ago. No pain, no gain with a clear, transparent and binding primary objectives semi finals 2017;2018;2019.
Final word on JT's contract, technically it is true that 2017 is an option in the club's favour, but in all likelihood he will be granted this 1 yr contract exemption based on successfully resolving 'transitional issues' ( management talk for getting rid of dead wood / bad habits) and getting the team to at least equal 8th notwithstanding our poor differential. Next year its very simple ideally top 4 with a $ bonus or top 8 to receive a 2 yr extension. Failure to reach top 8 will result in immediate termination.
I've now been told 3 different contract figures for Taylor but none of them have him earning any more than $450k p.a. on his current deal, which is $200k less than what Cleary is asking.

 

[Masterton]

one thing in ur notes above worries me how was MILONE put in the top 25, was he not out for the season before drinkwater left the club,seems strange to me.

Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

**And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles.** Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

The club doesn't choose who to promote to a top 25\. It is based simply and purely on who is in the top 25 paid players. This is why Milone was promoted because he was on a contract including TPA's is my understanding for more the anyone else left. This makes some sense because he had played FG before 2016 unlike the rest who were below him and also my understanding is he actually has a TPA from a 3rd part sponsor who is friends of the famiy which boosts him up and hence makes him top 25 money. It doesen't matter who has more potential or who has played better in 2016

Are you sure this is right?? Because TT said JT assembled his squad before O'Neill arrived, I took that as JT picking his top 25.

That's how I understand it. There may be occasional exceptions, like if players are on the same sized contract.