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I can't stand him but geez he is a beast. He talks well too. I just think what he says and who he is are two completely different things.
 

For those who are interested in the grappling this is a really good breakdown by Volk's grappling coach who is also one of the grapplers in the world.

He also makes some funny ones.


They are both nose beer connoisseurs. He talks a lot of crap about fighers.
 
How amazing was Bone's yesterday.

True GOAT, despite any issues outside the cage.

Seeing his career unfold from the very start and has been amazing.
Hopefully he beats Stipe next.
 
Demps said:
How amazing was Bone's yesterday.

True GOAT, despite any issues outside the cage.

Seeing his career unfold from the very start and has been amazing.
Hopefully he beats Stipe next.
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Hopefully he doesn’t get brain cancer, cheating piece of shit.
 
Tucker said:
Hopefully he doesn’t get brain cancer, cheating piece of shit.
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They changed some rules and said fighters with that trace amount of steroids will now be allowed to compete. Lol

They moved a whole event to a different city once so he could pass commission guidelines and compete.

I know what you're saying and understand the controversy but the guys something else.... an unreal fighter.
 
upthetigers said:
It comes down to either Jones, GSP or Khabib? I also rate Aldo in the top 5 of all time too. You can't just look at how many wins they had, you have to consider their competiton.
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GSP is awesome but he couldn't really fight up or down weight. Khabib is the same. They were professionals and Jones isn't but it doesn't matter because he is just a beast fighter. Volk is a beast as well. That last fight showed how good he is.

The competition matters as well but how do you judge.

Jones just doesn't look beatable. Can he win at heavyweight for a couple of fights. He mightn't get it so easy all the time. Can he keep fighting ?
 
upthetigers said:
It comes down to either Jones, GSP or Khabib? I also rate Aldo in the top 5 of all time too. You can't just look at how many wins they had, you have to consider their competiton.
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Yep.

Aldo doesn't make my top 5

The other two for sure though.
 
Earl said:
GSP is awesome but he couldn't really fight up or down weight. Khabib is the same. They were professionals and Jones isn't but it doesn't matter because he is just a beast fighter. Volk is a beast as well. That last fight showed how good he is.

The competition matters as well but how do you judge.

Jones just doesn't look beatable. Can he win at heavyweight for a couple of fights. He mightn't get it so easy all the time. Can he keep fighting ?
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GSP came back and went up a weight and fought Bisping (and won)
 
Demps said:
How amazing was Bone's yesterday.

True GOAT, despite any issues outside the cage.

Seeing his career unfold from the very start and has been amazing.
Hopefully he beats Stipe next.
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that has to be his last fight. If Francis was still around maybe two more but without him it’s stipe then sunset imo. Too much risk without much upside going against the new breed. You’d think he’d fight the winner of Pav/Blaydes after Stipe but what’s to gain? Pav can wrestle and punch holes though him and Blaydes can play on the ground. Sucks that he misses FN. he could’ve finished Stipe and finished his career on Francis an cemented his place. He’s got like 5 more fights on his contract I think and it’s gunna get wasted.

In saying that he’ll probably get drunk and crash his car into a cop so it won’t matter.
 
The Fresh Oil said:
that has to be his last fight. If Francis was still around maybe two more but without him it’s stipe then sunset imo. Too much risk without much upside going against the new breed. You’d think he’d fight the winner of Pav/Blaydes after Stipe but what’s to gain? Pav can wrestle and punch holes though him and Blaydes can play on the ground. Sucks that he misses FN. he could’ve finished Stipe and finished his career on Francis an cemented his place. He’s got like 5 more fights on his contract I think and it’s gunna get wasted.

In saying that he’ll probably get drunk and crash his car into a cop so it won’t matter.
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Seems like he's got his head screwed on now.
Eyes on the prize.

Stipe fight was announced for July I think, international fight week...

But yeah, likely win that and walk away.

Will be remembered as one of the best.... but there's always the black mark for the nonsense out of the cage.
 
Demps said:
Yep.

Aldo doesn't make my top 5

The other two for sure though.
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I think this comment on YouTube sums up the GOAT discussion perfectly.

"There are different criterias for a goat. Jon's goat criteria is having the most title fight wins. GSP's goat criteria is doing it without any cheating or controversy. Khabib's goat criteria is being the most dominant fighter in combat sports history."
 
upthetigers said:
I think this comment on YouTube sums up the GOAT discussion perfectly.

"There are different criterias for a goat. Jon's goat criteria is having the most title fight wins. GSP's goat criteria is doing it without any cheating or controversy. Khabib's goat criteria is being the most dominant fighter in combat sports history."
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Fair.

Those three were great to watch, although I found GSP to become a bit boring towards the end of his WW run... point fighting/ grinding out wins instead of trying to finish.

It's been a pleasure being able to watch peoples entire careers unfold from start to finish, makes me feel old.
 
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