Very small crowd at Campbelltown tonight.

[Balmain_Bug]

Yossarian,
Its not about what Humphreys should have done to have increased the crowd just for tonight, its the whole scheme of things for what he is not doing for this area down here and in Liverpool. Im not talking just tonight, Im talking ever since he took over.

Liverpool is a huge area. You can walk around that CBD all day and not see one person wearing Wests Tigers apparel.

He is failing miserably. Campbelltown is not much better. James TEDESCO was from Camden, ask him personally what its like and see what he says. Ask all other 1st graders who have come from this area. See what they say.

Say about what?

Anyway enough complaints let's hear your solutions… Here's your chance to be positive.

Well for a start, we need to brand the area. Stamp it as ours.

Billboards driving into Liverpool and Camden the other way, "You are now entering Wests Tigers Territory - Next game blah blah etc".

Massive Billboards cant stamp our territory as ours. Little kids reading them will remember them forever. They will be influenced by them. THis is one thing we can do.

The use actual facilities in these areas is of major importance. Ofcourse shifting Camp Concord has its issues, and I am not saying that just yet, but why train in Coogee or Clovely,?? I mean seriously?? for alternate locations, head to Campbelltown, instead of the Coggee stairs, run Chilli's hill. Have a presence down there !!!!!!!!! Let the people see us more !!!! let them understand that we are their team!!!!!

 

[innsaneink]

Perfect night for footy
No one to blame but the locals
''Nearly 50% roosters fans''…my god you crap on

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Another thing they can do, is draw and inference of Campbelltown to 'Tigertown' etc. It is a perfect marketing ploy and a good one. Refer to Campbelltown as Tigertown.

Make references as such in the media and all other facets of communication so people can embrace us more.

Mmake an approach to the council to have the name of the ground changed to 'Tigertown Stadium" if not permanately , at least for the four games a year we play there !!
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[stryker]

Heres the thing Bug, in first grade, Wests dissolved a dozen years ago. Maybe some left RL as a result, maybe some chose to follow a different club, I dont know, but everyone out there knows damned well that wests are now Wests Tigers. Do we really need an advertising campaign to let people know they still have a team to follow?

There has been a lot of foot stamping and whinging going on lately about the Western Suberbs side of the venture getting the raw end of the stick. Wouldnt you think that tonight would have been a great chance for those people to come out in force and show management that they care about their team? To put some weight behind their protests?

This apathetic attendance is not really pushing their case is it….

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Here are the memberships from a year ago when Humphreys was well and truly into his rein. Do you now think there is a problem ??

Bunnies 19,845
Dragons 19,055
Broncos 14,638
Bulldogs 13,584
Eels 11,110
Roosters 9,582
Knights 9,220
Sea Eagles 9,065
Raiders 9,009
Storm 8,775
Warriors 8,578
Wests Tigers 8,712
Titans 8,025
Cowboys 7,620
Sharks 6,515
Panthers 6,132

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Heres the thing Bug, in first grade, Wests dissolved a dozen years ago. Maybe some left RL as a result, maybe some chose to follow a different club, I dont know, but everyone out there knows damned well that wests are now Wests Tigers. Do we really need an advertising campaign to let people know they still have a team to follow?

There has been a lot of foot stamping and whinging going on lately about the Western Suberbs side of the venture getting the raw end of the stick. Wouldnt you think that tonight would have been a great chance for those people to come out in force and show management that they care about their team? To put some weight behind their protests?

This apathetic attendance is not really pushing their case is it….

Stryker, lets take a 18 year old for example. An 18 year old would have been 5 years old when Wests Tigers agreed on a Joint Venture in the 1st grade NRL comp.

They know nothing about Wests Magpies. Its a generational gap. Lets Focus on what Wests Tigers are doing now, today. Look at the membership figures for last year, they are a DISGRACE. This year is WORSE !!!

 

[innsaneink]

Why were we promoting Roosters membership packs over the PA?
Thats got me stuffed….all night long..."From only $99..."

 

[stryker]

Yeah, but that is a totally different problem. Those low membership figures have nothing to do with why this game was so poorly supported tonight.

 

[Gothetigers]

Bug do you gave the membership figures from a couple of years ago ? Would be interesting to see what difference has been made.
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[Balmain_Bug]

Yeah, but that is a totally different problem. Those low membership figures have nothing to do with why this game was so poorly supported tonight.

A sales ticket drive was not there.

Maybe the gate gets split 50/50 between the sides and thats why they did not care too much over it, who knows ???

 

[mtd]

balmain bug, i understand you have an issue with the presence of the WT as club in the campbelltown area.. however your 'indicators' for this are weak imo.. times have changed in the past 10 years… walk through newcastle, brisbane, south sydney, parramatta... and you dont see many people wearing jerseys because people dont care as much anymore.... not as many kids 'dream of footy' these days because there are too many other options and distractions; facebook, xbox, foxtel etc etc. its the same everywhere, not just campbelltown.

sure, its exciting the footy season is around the corner, but who wants to pay $20 entry or whatever for a nothing game? you're talking about a low socio-economic area (in sydney) where not everyone has alot of money.. the WT could of drummed the match up, but for what? to get 10,000 there instead of 7,000? its not really that a big of a deal, its a trial.

personally i think you are letting your problems with humphries and sheens overshadow you're judgement. you're looking for reasons to get stuck into them, even when they are unjustified - like this thread. 7,000 to a trial is GOOD! the only reason the central coast are getting big crowds is because they dont have many games up there, so they make the most of it.

willow, please don't close the thread (or threaten to), this forum should be a representation of all views. as long as the thread remains a debate of opinion i don't see how there is an issue with it. if anything, it allows people to guage a better understanding of each other - and who's opinion we value/dont value in future threads.

*p.s i find it hard to beleive most of the supporters were roosters, they struggle to get 10,000 to a game in the regular season!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It just seems to me that some of the old Balmsin supporters still have issues with the merger and can't be bothered to travel to Campbelltown.

The only people who have issues with the merger seem to be whinging Magpies fans, like the one who started this ridiculous thread.

As for the rest of your post, I agree.

Mate, there are diehards from BOTH sides who have issues. Lets not just all blame it on one side

 

[GNR4LIFE]

At the end of the day i wouldn't read too much into the crowd. Leichardt wouldn't have attracted any bigger of a crowd. The reality is, except for the diehards like us who live and breathe everything Wests Tigers, the majority of fans out there couldn't care less about trials. A lot probably wouldn't even know they were on. My old man is as big of a fan as anyone, but he had no interest tonight, i just met him in the club after the game. A lot of people don't see the appeal in meaningless games

And as far as the C'town jokes go, they are quite old. As if no one in the inner west has suffered a case of stolen hubcaps. You gotta realize, C'town is home to a lot of people on here, and its pretty disrespectful. joking or not to make continuous snide jokes at the place. Its a place a lot of people take pride in. That should be respected

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Can we seriously stop talking crap about Campbelltown? It's getting really old.

I've grown up in Campbelltown and have been to as many games as I can possibly get to regardless of the location. I remember leaving school early on a monday to get to games at LO, leaving TAFE and work early to get to games at the SFS, ANZ and Blue Tongue on a friday night, will be having the day off work to go to the rd1 clash at LO and intend to do the same for every one of our home games this year, regardless of the stadium.

As far as I'm concerned I don't rate LO as a stadium but will make the trip, put up with the lack of parking and lack of facilities and I'll do this because I want to support my team. It just seems to me that some of the old Balmsin supporters still have issues with the merger and can't be bothered to travel to Campbelltown. If all the old Wests supporters had that attitude then LO wouldn't get the numbers it does.

It's been said before but people need to get over it, get over the stigmas of travelling to Campbelltown and forget these stupid remarks about their hubcaps being taken during the game.

The reality is your team has 3 home grounds and I'm prepared to say if your not going to go to games and make snide remarks about the low attendance of games, your against everything the WT have tried to achieve these past 12 years.

It's time everyone gets behind their team regardless of where they are playing, not just supporting them out of LO or CSS.

I understand there are reasons why some may not be able to make it and whilst they may be valid reasons such as family, work and the like, it does not give others the excuse to sit at home when they could be at the game, then make stupid remarks about the low attendance.
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[PrattenParkMagpie]

Here are the memberships from a year ago when Humphreys was well and truly into his rein. Do you now think there is a problem ??

Bunnies 19,845

Be fair Bug, we all know of those 19,845 about 4,000 of those are residents of Rookwood, 4,000 received their memberships with their local Woolworths/Coles catalogue letter box drop, 2,000 are the local feril cats and another 2,000 live in the US and have absolutely no idea what a Souths is

 

[Aladinsane]

Melbourne get nearly 12,000 in backwater Hobart for their trial there and we can't get more than 8,000 in a league heartland …..something is not right ....can the fans at Campbelltown make a statement and sell out the 4 home games there this year .....
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[Gary_Bakerloo]

Melbourne get nearly 12,000 in backwater Hobart for their trial there and we can't get more than 8,000 in a league heartland …..something is not right ....can the fans at Campbelltown make a statement and sell out the 4 home games there this year ....._Posted using RoarFEED 2012_

Not sure about this comparison, Hobart residents watch anything due to extremely minimal front line sport exposure in the state.

What was the club's crowd expectation? My view would be that a trial game at a suburban ground in the middle of summer would mean you would be lucky to exceed 10,000.

If this corresponding fixture has seen crowds of 8,000 - 16,000 at the SFS, then I think 7,500 is respectable.

 

[diedpretty]

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**because i dont want to drive to campbelltown and have the hubcaps stolen from my car.. id prefer watch the dragons v souths game on tv…**

it may be their job to capture the audience, but its still up to people to go out to the game. stop blaming others. what are you doing to rally up tigers supporters huh? i mean as a supporter its also your job to help support your team, therefore getting as many other supporters to the game too! how many people did YOU take with you tonight??

and there it is - another latte drinking snob supporter who can't find his way out of leichhardt - i think its time we stopped putting the boot in to other supporters who don't travel

 

[Tiger_Watto]

If you go back through the 30 years combined history of Wests Magpies and the Wests Tigers at CSS, and review crowd attendances, it's not hard to work out…

More people would've turned up in Brisbane tonight to watch this game...

The only mistake Humphries made was moving this game... It was a poor business decision and he needs to accept accountability for that. His job isn't to appease small minded factions, it's to drive revenue and moving this game has failed.

Move forward Humpty, and stop listening to peanuts!

 

[Snake]

Of the crowd, almost half were Roosters fans.

You people just dont realise, there is a Major problem with the Wests Tigers and South West Sydney.

It has dramatically snowballed since Steve Noyce left Wests Tigers. The community out here dont feel the love from the Wests Tigers. Its not theory, its fact. Although official main game crowd figures has Campbelltown almost on par with Leichhardt, I fear that Steve HUMPHREYS drastic refusal to acknowledge the needs of the area and to put back itno the area is having tragic effect on all fronts down here.

His disgraceful support of Tim SHEENS decision to have all WT players play for BRET has spelled the death of Wests Magpies. The disgraceful 'visitations' of the Campbelltown/Liverpool area happens only in the pre-season and 4 times a year for the week leading up to the games we play here.

Walk down the main road of Campbelltown and Liverpool and you can see that the people are almost lost to Rugby League in what used to be a thriving Rugby league heartland.

How many people who live in Liverpool do you think know that it is Wests area for geographic Rugby League responsibilty ?? Ask them and the will either answer the Bulldogs or Parramatta. Steven Humphreys is failing badly.

What have Wests Tigers done in the Liverpool area since HUMPHREYS took the reins?? can anyone tell me ??

Humphreys is a disgrace. Sheens will always be Wests Tigers coach because at least half the board will love him forever because Balmain BRET or whatever they call themselves will always get everything on a platter and Wests Magpies will always get nothing.

Wests Tigers need to put something back into Liverpool / Macathur constantly, daily, on a ongoing basis, not sparodically at the disinclination of Steven HUMPHREYS.

Mr Bug ..I get a great kick out of reading your comments but a times the vitriol goes a bit far.I liked the line the community don't feel the love from the Weststigers! well Mr Bug the community didn't feel the love for the Magpies either that is why they folded.I should know my family travelled from Lidcombe from the first relocation game to walk out the last game the Magpies played at Campbelltown! The problem is the whole area doesn't feel the love of rugby leauge !!!This is not a problem for the Weststigers to rectify this is a problem the new commision will have to sought out.And my take of our CEO is we are lucky to have him I see a jersey with blue chip sponsors and a club that is professionally run.The one thing i don't understand Mr Bug why do you support the Weststigers with all that vitriol ?