We need a recruitment 'win'...

[fibrodreaming]

2019 - 11 wins and 13 losses. Without MCK it would have been 9 wins and 15 losses.

Sorry, I should have said "Without MCK it would potentially have been 9 wins and 15 losses".

 

[twentyforty]

2019 - 11 wins and 13 losses. Without MCK it would have been 9 wins and 15 losses.

Sorry, I should have said "Without MCK it would potentially have been 9 wins and 15 losses".

I agree, MCK had a lot of work to do in those two tries but as we know it’s a team sport. The unsung hero who gave MCK the opportunity with the ball on those two occasions is what you want from your half.

 

[Masterton]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.

Not at all. But comparing stats between forwards and backs is ridiculous. You know that, everyone does.

Momirovski is the most overhyped player on here since Lolohea.

I know that's your opinion. and you might be right about Lolohea, but I'm putting it out there on Momo. I'm sure you'll remind me around June if I'm wrong!

I'm with you, Balls. Big metres, finds the line, 1 line break per match, kicks goals, plenty of upside. What's not to love?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

There really hasn’t been any top quality players leave or join any Club. Good players maybe but top quality not so much.. Dogs picking up Stimson is akin to us picking up Leilua ...as an example

That list of elite players haven’t come here sure but they haven’t gone anywhere else either


Yeah, but we are pretty much the only club with a ton of cap room.

If most clubs had 1.7 mill (2020) and well over 2 million (2021) they'd have landed a couple. Remember we CAN sign for 2021 now....Arrow, LM, Fifita, JAC, multiple others also all were available for 2021.

That is the real issue at the moment...we actually have the money, but no one appears to be coming.

In modern pro sports worldwide, cap space is like gold. Even the worst of teams can rebuild if they have it. Essentially that is the whole point of a salary cap system.

So, this is not the norm. We have tons of room for 2020 and a ton more for 2021...yet not a single marquee signing to date.

You are missing the most important thing though. How many disgruntled elite players are out there at any given time really ? Less than 5 for sure . Is it 2? I dunno .
My point is , if most players are happy , and loyal because of this, most will take some kind of discount to stick around. So as a recruiting club , you have to pay overs to begin with , just to enter the conversation. Then , you may have to transcend an unconscious or conscious . If so , then you have to way up whether the huge overs you have to pay are worth it . And in most cases despite all the whinging on here , they’re really not .
Is Arrow really 600k or 6% of the cap better than say Musgrove ??? Honestly ?
The real big one . Is LM really 8% better than AJ. Yes! Maybe ... I dunno , and it’s a hard one .
I get the Marquee thing , but outside of those 2 , there is litterally no one who is entertaining leaving thier existing club .

 

[crazycat]

Back to the topic at hand, I don't think we need a recruitment win.

We need a recruitment strategy like Canberra had (or like Manly had pre 2008).
Canberra smartly recruited 4 top British footballers and put them in a team together. This meant passing on some quality talent like Shannon Boyd. The play worked like a charm for them.

They now have a proper spine and a team that went from outsiders to finalists. Likewise Manly executed a 3 year plan to make the finals. selecting players that had only played together, suddenly you have 6 top players who love playing for that team. Add the whole fortress mentality and you see how they went to the finals.

If I had to tap a region, either Tonga or Papua Niu Guinea. If you picked a bunch of close Niu Guineans and just brought them in as a team training hard it would be a risk but one that might pay off. Otherwise work out which generation of players will be the top new talent and see who has played together. Sure we tried this with Brooks, Tedesco and Moses... Look pick people that play together well Ok. In short come up with a strategy and a real 3-4 year plan and stop "lets make the 8" attitude.

We don't need Latrell. We need a strategy.

 

[supercoach]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite


Can't stand him now as he has proven to be a cat...

And it loathes me to do this....

But geez revisionism is alive and well if people are suddenly downplaying the bloke's form.

He was our best player by a mile. Not even close.

150 plus most weeks, 30 odd strong tackles. Gave us something we had not had since Ellis.

The one bloke who looked like an elite NRL player we had. 295 yards we the Dogs. Solo try through half the Rorters.

A cat, yes.

But a massive loss.

Not fair to cast all as revisionist, as some have consistently admired his contributions, yet not considered his the most valuable and that was prior to the rumblings. You can have your opinion, as can others and I have no problem with an evaluation of him being the best, as he was there or thereabouts.

On the other hand, no way was he alone and far better than a number of other players.

And this is one of my biggest bug bears with some on the forum

The club has screwed up again and again and again and is treated like a protected species ...but players leave the club after playing quality football and yet they get lambasted from pillar to post

Matterson was easily one of our best consistently all season (remember Old Man Tigers was keeping score in the 3,2 and 1's )

Your on the money again Happy....Blind Freddie knew Matterson was our best last year and by some distance. Okay he maybe a scumbag but he could play. Two things will happen with Matterson’s departure....we will be weaker and Parra will be stronger and the only thing we got out of the deal, despite some strong words from our CEO was some cap space we can’t seem to be able to use

 

[Telltails]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite


Can't stand him now as he has proven to be a cat...

And it loathes me to do this....

But geez revisionism is alive and well if people are suddenly downplaying the bloke's form.

He was our best player by a mile. Not even close.

150 plus most weeks, 30 odd strong tackles. Gave us something we had not had since Ellis.

The one bloke who looked like an elite NRL player we had. 295 yards we the Dogs. Solo try through half the Rorters.

A cat, yes.

But a massive loss.

Not fair to cast all as revisionist, as some have consistently admired his contributions, yet not considered his the most valuable and that was prior to the rumblings. You can have your opinion, as can others and I have no problem with an evaluation of him being the best, as he was there or thereabouts.

On the other hand, no way was he alone and far better than a number of other players.

And this is one of my biggest bug bears with some on the forum

The club has screwed up again and again and again and is treated like a protected species ...but players leave the club after playing quality football and yet they get lambasted from pillar to post

Matterson was easily one of our best consistently all season (remember Old Man Tigers was keeping score in the 3,2 and 1's )

Your on the money again Happy....Blind Freddie knew Matterson was our best last year and by some distance. Okay he maybe a scumbag but he could play. Two things will happen with Matterson’s departure....we will be weaker and Parra will be stronger and the only thing we got out of the deal, despite some strong words from our CEO was some cap space we can’t seem to be able to use

That's assuming that no one else can rise to the occasion given the same opportunity that Matterson was given under the guidance of our coach. A bit premature to make that call. Lots of players have one good season and don't back it up. I think Matterson is being given way too much cred at this point after one good season.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite


Can't stand him now as he has proven to be a cat...

And it loathes me to do this....

But geez revisionism is alive and well if people are suddenly downplaying the bloke's form.

He was our best player by a mile. Not even close.

150 plus most weeks, 30 odd strong tackles. Gave us something we had not had since Ellis.

The one bloke who looked like an elite NRL player we had. 295 yards we the Dogs. Solo try through half the Rorters.

A cat, yes.

But a massive loss.

Not fair to cast all as revisionist, as some have consistently admired his contributions, yet not considered his the most valuable and that was prior to the rumblings. You can have your opinion, as can others and I have no problem with an evaluation of him being the best, as he was there or thereabouts.

On the other hand, no way was he alone and far better than a number of other players.

And this is one of my biggest bug bears with some on the forum

The club has screwed up again and again and again and is treated like a protected species ...but players leave the club after playing quality football and yet they get lambasted from pillar to post

Matterson was easily one of our best consistently all season (remember Old Man Tigers was keeping score in the 3,2 and 1's )

Your on the money again Happy....Blind Freddie knew Matterson was our best last year and by some distance. Okay he maybe a scumbag but he could play. Two things will happen with Matterson’s departure....we will be weaker and Parra will be stronger and the only thing we got out of the deal, despite some strong words from our CEO was some cap space we can’t seem to be able to use

That's assuming that no one else can rise to the occasion given the same opportunity that Matterson was given under the guidance of our coach. A bit premature to make that call. Lots of players have one good season and don't back it up. I think Matterson is being given way too much cred at this point after one good season.

That's just it Telltails it wasn't just one good season, he played strongly as a utility at the Roosters also. Everyone could see his talent, he will get even better at Parra.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Don't forget Ivan wanted to steal Corey Thompson... but Corey opted to stay at the tigers.

The rest of the NRL might think we suck but some of the guys that come to the club such as MCK and CT don't want a leave.

We're building something.

Guys like Twal, Garner, Aloiai I'm sure coulda got deals elsewhere cos they're awesome but also chose to stay.

I mean this nicely, but Cory and Chee Kam as examples of NRL players 'wanting' to play for us kind of says it all.

All four players you listed there were let go by (multiple) other clubs. So, yeah, of course they are happy to be with us, earning way more than they would have otherwise.

All the players listed on this thread as positive examples I like and every club needs a couple of them....but we have a dozen.

Not rep level? Will never get close to Origin? Been cut by your previous clubs? Tigers are your team.

And I do not have an issue with that. They come, love the club, and appreciate the chance.

But they won't get you close to the top 4 and are unlikely to get top 8 either.

So, the question is what do we want?
A team of battlers who love the jersey and try their guts out? Unlikely to ever win a comp, but geez they try hard?

**OR**

Elite players, often high level mercenaries, primadonnas at times, need special attention and have demands....but are the guys who will win you big games and raise your profile by playing rep footy...get you to the semis.

 

[Telltails]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite


Can't stand him now as he has proven to be a cat...

And it loathes me to do this....

But geez revisionism is alive and well if people are suddenly downplaying the bloke's form.

He was our best player by a mile. Not even close.

150 plus most weeks, 30 odd strong tackles. Gave us something we had not had since Ellis.

The one bloke who looked like an elite NRL player we had. 295 yards we the Dogs. Solo try through half the Rorters.

A cat, yes.

But a massive loss.

Not fair to cast all as revisionist, as some have consistently admired his contributions, yet not considered his the most valuable and that was prior to the rumblings. You can have your opinion, as can others and I have no problem with an evaluation of him being the best, as he was there or thereabouts.

On the other hand, no way was he alone and far better than a number of other players.

And this is one of my biggest bug bears with some on the forum

The club has screwed up again and again and again and is treated like a protected species ...but players leave the club after playing quality football and yet they get lambasted from pillar to post

Matterson was easily one of our best consistently all season (remember Old Man Tigers was keeping score in the 3,2 and 1's )

Your on the money again Happy....Blind Freddie knew Matterson was our best last year and by some distance. Okay he maybe a scumbag but he could play. Two things will happen with Matterson’s departure....we will be weaker and Parra will be stronger and the only thing we got out of the deal, despite some strong words from our CEO was some cap space we can’t seem to be able to use

That's assuming that no one else can rise to the occasion given the same opportunity that Matterson was given under the guidance of our coach. A bit premature to make that call. Lots of players have one good season and don't back it up. I think Matterson is being given way too much cred at this point after one good season.

That's just it Telltails it wasn't just one good season, he played strongly as a utility at the Roosters also. Everyone could see his talent, he will get even better at Parra.

Still only one good full season. Not suggesting he can't play he had a great season but the assumption that we can't get as good a performance from other players to fill that void is giving Matterson way too much cudos - and giving him all the credit. Strangely enough he was "reportedly" unhappy with the coaching - go figure that. Not sure how you can predict anything with him as he has shown in his short career already he has trouble adapting where ever he is.

 

[TieDye]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite


Can't stand him now as he has proven to be a cat...

And it loathes me to do this....

But geez revisionism is alive and well if people are suddenly downplaying the bloke's form.

He was our best player by a mile. Not even close.

150 plus most weeks, 30 odd strong tackles. Gave us something we had not had since Ellis.

The one bloke who looked like an elite NRL player we had. 295 yards we the Dogs. Solo try through half the Rorters.

A cat, yes.

But a massive loss.

Not fair to cast all as revisionist, as some have consistently admired his contributions, yet not considered his the most valuable and that was prior to the rumblings. You can have your opinion, as can others and I have no problem with an evaluation of him being the best, as he was there or thereabouts.

On the other hand, no way was he alone and far better than a number of other players.

And this is one of my biggest bug bears with some on the forum

The club has screwed up again and again and again and is treated like a protected species ...but players leave the club after playing quality football and yet they get lambasted from pillar to post

Matterson was easily one of our best consistently all season (remember Old Man Tigers was keeping score in the 3,2 and 1's )

Your on the money again Happy....Blind Freddie knew Matterson was our best last year and by some distance. Okay he maybe a scumbag but he could play. Two things will happen with Matterson’s departure....we will be weaker and Parra will be stronger and the only thing we got out of the deal, despite some strong words from our CEO was some cap space we can’t seem to be able to use

That's assuming that no one else can rise to the occasion given the same opportunity that Matterson was given under the guidance of our coach. A bit premature to make that call. Lots of players have one good season and don't back it up. I think Matterson is being given way too much cred at this point after one good season.

That's just it Telltails it wasn't just one good season, he played strongly as a utility at the Roosters also. Everyone could see his talent, he will get even better at Parra.

Still only one good full season. Not suggesting he can't play he had a great season but the assumption that we can't get as good a performance from other players to fill that void is giving Matterson way too much cudos - and giving him all the credit. Strangely enough he was "reportedly" unhappy with the coaching - go figure that. Not sure how you can predict anything with him as he has shown in his short career already he has trouble adapting where ever he is.

Worse than M. Moses for mine - I’m predicting a permanent neck injury... just kidding, or am i

 

[Tiger5150]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, ***he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.***

Pretty safe bet nominating the goal kicker as top point scorer

 

[TieDye]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, ***he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.***

Pretty safe bet nominating the goal kicker as top point scorer

Glenn, matey not to be cynical? But have you even been keeping up to date? The points originally made were comparing characters, actual tangible (points scored) value to a team and what kind of integrity it takes somebody/anybody to recover from those kind of early career woes. He was never keen to sit in the background cheering on his Cock pals TBH. Cheers

 

[Tiger5150]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, ***he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.***

Pretty safe bet nominating the goal kicker as top point scorer

Glenn, matey not to be cynical? But have you even been keeping up to date? The points originally made were comparing characters, actual tangible (points scored) value to a team and what kind of integrity it takes somebody/anybody to recover from those kind of early career woes. He was never keen to sit in the background cheering on his C**k pals TBH. Cheers

I think you may be right TieDye and it appears I have dropped in and misinterpreted TigerBalls. My apology TB although I wasnt trying to be a smartarse.

 

[tigerballs]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, ***he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.***

Pretty safe bet nominating the goal kicker as top point scorer

Glenn, matey not to be cynical? But have you even been keeping up to date? The points originally made were comparing characters, actual tangible (points scored) value to a team and what kind of integrity it takes somebody/anybody to recover from those kind of early career woes. He was never keen to sit in the background cheering on his C**k pals TBH. Cheers



I think you may be right TieDye and it appears I have dropped in and misinterpreted TigerBalls. My apology TB although I wasnt trying to be a smartarse.

Apology unnecessary, of course it's any easy prediction but only if he makes the starting team, which was my actual point. This thread seems to be mostly negative whereas I'm pretty upbeat about 2020. You look over the last few Grand Finalists, excepting the privileged, and they've never been the obvious at the start of the season. Cronulla won on the back of a 33 year old reject hooker, a journeyman pair of halves, although vastly underrated, a few old hard heads in the pack and a few young, speedy backs that no one had heard of a year before. Canberra let a couple of big boppers go for a few no name poms and a reject winger for fullback. The Cowboys never bought anyone except Lachlan Coote ( and Jonathon Thurston, unwanted by the Dogs ). Sea Eagles brought Cherry Evans in as a newbie, had a bunch of juniors and few toilers. Good coaching got the best out of what hey had.
That's where the Tigers are this season. We have a dual premiership winning coach, a new head conditioner who has overseen two premiership wins, a bunch of hot prospects and a few guys that have been around and we have a lot of confidence in. Looking good.
All we need now is a good hooker....
God we need a hooker....

 

[TheDaBoss]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, ***he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.***

Pretty safe bet nominating the goal kicker as top point scorer

Glenn, matey not to be cynical? But have you even been keeping up to date? The points originally made were comparing characters, actual tangible (points scored) value to a team and what kind of integrity it takes somebody/anybody to recover from those kind of early career woes. He was never keen to sit in the background cheering on his C**k pals TBH. Cheers



I think you may be right TieDye and it appears I have dropped in and misinterpreted TigerBalls. My apology TB although I wasnt trying to be a smartarse.

Apology unnecessary, of course it's any easy prediction but only if he makes the starting team, which was my actual point. This thread seems to be mostly negative whereas I'm pretty upbeat about 2020. You look over the last few Grand Finalists, excepting the privileged, and they've never been the obvious at the start of the season. Cronulla won on the back of a 33 year old reject hooker, a journeyman pair of halves, although vastly underrated, a few old hard heads in the pack and a few young, speedy backs that no one had heard of a year before. Canberra let a couple of big boppers go for a few no name poms and a reject winger for fullback. The Cowboys never bought anyone except Lachlan Coote ( and Jonathon Thurston, unwanted by the Dogs ). Sea Eagles brought Cherry Evans in as a newbie, had a bunch of juniors and few toilers. Good coaching got the best out of what hey had.
That's where the Tigers are this season. We have a dual premiership winning coach, a new head conditioner who has overseen two premiership wins, a bunch of hot prospects and a few guys that have been around and we have a lot of confidence in. Looking good.
All we need now is a good hooker....
God we need a hooker....

Jake Simpkin and injury free liddle at ur service ?

 

[TieDye]

Matto wasn’t our best player by a long shot. He was good for about 8 games then average at best.

Not elite

Who was better?

Benji, Brooks, on occasions Garner

Mikaele? Momirovski even.

Momirovski better than Matterson? I’ve heard it all now.

A better finisher? A bigger heart? I can’t verify this but I’m assuming bigger Gonads too. You have heard it all! He played a more key role in late season games and don’t think it’s debatable

I agree with you that it isn’t debatable because Matterson was our best player and Momirovski is lucky to be in first grade.

Matterson is currently better known for his form off the field, more than anything he has achieved on the field. If you asked him who was the best player last season he would more than likely name himself. Don't think his team mates would.

Over 130m per game with more than 30 tackles. More post contact metres than any other 2nd rower in the NRL. He's a douchebag but he's a great player, better than anything else we have on our books.

Momo averaged 128 m per game and scored 8 tries in 11 games. Also kicked at 75%. Scored the matchwinner for Roosters in the finals in 2018. He goes alright.

Why are you comparing attacking metres between a forward and a back? Like comparing apples and oranges.

Also Robert Jennings was 2nd highest try scorer in 2018. It means stuff all.

Then Matterson's stats mean exactly the same. All I'm saying is that on average, Momo was our leading scorer, both tries and goals last season, in limited appearances, and you're judgement is he is lucky to be playing first grade.
He scored a couple this season that not many others would have and I'll go out on a limb here and predict, barring injury, ***he'll be our top point scorer in 2020.***

Pretty safe bet nominating the goal kicker as top point scorer

Glenn, matey not to be cynical? But have you even been keeping up to date? The points originally made were comparing characters, actual tangible (points scored) value to a team and what kind of integrity it takes somebody/anybody to recover from those kind of early career woes. He was never keen to sit in the background cheering on his C**k pals TBH. Cheers



I think you may be right TieDye and it appears I have dropped in and misinterpreted TigerBalls.

You really dropped the ball/s there! Just illustrating the passionate way in which I feel regarding the subject of the quintessential RL star. Most are usually, despite some naysayers, very good blokes indeed - many exceptions to this rule though.

Matterson of course was our best forward on what seemed decent value for the club (hear he’s on about the same if not less at Eels). Momi pretty clearly delivered more valuable moments for the club on the field albeit only for the last several rounds - but do believe the potential for a very consistent level is there with him. Smarts to boot, and if you consider MCK’s double buzzer beaters against Broncs and Penrith who we can all admit as fans.. we needed to hammer, then I view this new traitor as totally surplus to needs.

 

[ElleryHanley]

I am going to classify BJ as a big 'win'.

Not Origin / Kangaroo elite, but right there at the next level and, on his day, as destructive as they come.

A risk, yes, due to the neck injury. But he came back and already played for the Raiders / played a GF. So, it is not like we have signed him directly post surgery.

Has some mistakes in him, but has huge X factor also. Wingers are going to want to play outside him all day.

The brothers are also likely to be much more focussed and motivated playing together.

A win at last fellas 🙂

 

[TYGA]

Lucky BJ the new right edge.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Yep I’m going to say that we’ve ticked another box. Good buys so far but still not done. Next recruit needs to add speed to the backline. Final one needs to be the bloke from parra. But we are getting closer to me believing recruitment has turned the corner. Not yet but I think I see a corner up ahead😀