We shouldnt be to critical....just yet...

[Geo]

so next next next year..great..


You think it will happen earlier?
Good for you

We have been hearing since 2012..so yeah..

 

[NT_Tiger]

Not only do we need a team that performs consistently, but we need management that performs consistently providing the background support (financial and otherwise) to enable a coach to develop that teams performance over a number of years.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

For all the horros if Masters kicks 1 penalty or conversion against Pennies we are top 6. 9th for our roster is fairly good imo. Are we going to win the comp no but we werent going to anyway. Everyone predicted bottom 4 but we are 9th so currently outperforming which is what u can ask. He has also bought in Mikele, bought in Clarke this week so is making changes

Even without the Penrith win, we could still be feasibly 6th place if we didn't get dicked by Parra in the fashion we did.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I think it’s the 2 blowouts that are hurting us fans the most and making a lot of us feel that we are a really poor side, when in fact we are performing pretty well, considering the roster we have.

It doesn’t help that the blowout score lines were so close together either, exposing our weaknesses for all to see. It also doesn’t help that no other team has been really thrashed like we have yet either (that I can recall). Let’s face it, it was men against boys versus Easts, but we should’ve performed a whole lot better against last season’s wooden spooners.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think it’s the 2 blowouts that are hurting us fans the most and making a lot of us feel that we are a really poor side, when in fact we are performing pretty well, considering the roster we have.

It doesn’t help that the blowout score lines were so close together either, exposing our weaknesses for all to see. It also doesn’t help that no other team has been really thrashed like we have yet either (that I can recall). Let’s face it, it was men against boys versus Easts, but we should’ve performed a whole lot better against last season’s wooden spooners.

What's is killing me is that we got ourselves in a position in the Roosters game to hang in their with them and our own football stupidity blew the game

Roosters are the benchmark ...and we were within 6 and had a chance

 

[newtiger]

Patience is a virtue....

But hurry

 

[happy_tiger]

Its is our unalienable right to be critical ....

As WT's Forum member if your not critical I actually think you might be a loon

Give me a successful season ....and you'll get little or no criticism

 

[TrueTiger]

@happy_tiger I can agree with your comment as such,however IF we were to win our next say 8 games straight and all players and coach are doing well seeing there are new faces on the field and coach,we make the 8 but go no further,is that a successful season ? or do you mean winning the premiership to be known as a successful season..
It is also our right as fans and members to give the new coach a chance to be successful ...and I hope he does...

 

[The_Patriot]

This giving a coach 3 years thing is just another steaming pile of mediocrity.

This is Michael Maguire, a premiership winning coach and one of the best in the business. You give muppets like Jason Taylor 3 years not proven professionals.

Yes it will take time to build his desired roster but he doesnt need time to prove himself.

It will take him a little time to work out the issues with our culture. This is where we are now, he is sticking with the team and trying to understand why they are not performing. Why they choke when they do. Why they go missing when we needed them etc.

It will also take him a little time and identify the regular first grader players who just cant get it done. Some heads will roll. New heads will then be brought in.

All in all by this time next season he will have close to the team he wants and he will have ownership of it from there on in.

 

[gallagher]

My Question is when DO we become critical of this team and the management that gives us this team yearly .... How long does it have to be without any success before being critical is ACCEPTABLE ...you could not be critical last season as the coach needed TIME it just continues season after season .

Give the coach 3 years, simple.

General consensus is CEO is good, when he gets back.

Some ppl were critical of the board but the Chair has just changed so you need to leave that to work.

So the answer is 3 years to truly judge. Make ongoing assessments but you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater every 2 years, which is essentially what we've been doing.

This is Pascoes 4th year in charge and the roster is no better. What's another 3 years hey?

 

[jadtiger]

This giving a coach 3 years thing is just another steaming pile of mediocrity.

This is Michael Maguire, a premiership winning coach and one of the best in the business. You give muppets like Jason Taylor 3 years not proven professionals.

Yes it will take time to build his desired roster but he doesnt need time to prove himself.

It will take him a little time to work out the issues with our culture. This is where we are now, he is sticking with the team and trying to understand why they are not performing. Why they choke when they do. Why they go missing when we needed them etc.

It will also take him a little time and identify the regular first grader players who just cant get it done. Some heads will roll. New heads will then be brought in.

All in all by this time next season he will have close to the team he wants and he will have ownership of it from there on in.

You are being very unfair calling jason taylor a muppet,muppets are much more likeable and bring pleasure to many.The only thing JT brought to every club was destruction from within either shaffting coaches or cause player disruption.

 

[upthetigers]

but we should’ve performed a whole lot better against last season’s wooden spooners.

Yep, and they were without Fergo and Nathan Brown, arguably their two best players.

 

[Snake]

@gallagher To Pascoes credit he had a massive job to turn the place around on many fronts and pretty much has ... unfortunately caught up in the Farah mess and not being around for 6 months has not helped with moral around the place . He also was shafted by Cleary 💩with his dog act literally putting the team back a couple of seasons , I do not think any other CEO could of done more actually. I will be happy when and if he returns as I certainly would not be returning after the board through him to the wolves and stabbing another that turned things around in the back , he might see it as unfinished business!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

This giving a coach 3 years thing is just another steaming pile of mediocrity.

This is Michael Maguire, a premiership winning coach and one of the best in the business. You give muppets like Jason Taylor 3 years not proven professionals.

Yes it will take time to build his desired roster but he doesnt need time to prove himself.

It will take him a little time to work out the issues with our culture. This is where we are now, he is sticking with the team and trying to understand why they are not performing. Why they choke when they do. Why they go missing when we needed them etc.

It will also take him a little time and identify the regular first grader players who just cant get it done. Some heads will roll. New heads will then be brought in.

All in all by this time next season he will have close to the team he wants and he will have ownership of it from there on in.

You are being very unfair calling jason taylor a muppet,muppets are much more likeable and bring pleasure to many.The only thing JT brought to every club was destruction from within either shaffting coaches or cause player disruption.

Least he was committed to the club, unlike the last coach

 

[jadtiger]

This giving a coach 3 years thing is just another steaming pile of mediocrity.

This is Michael Maguire, a premiership winning coach and one of the best in the business. You give muppets like Jason Taylor 3 years not proven professionals.

Yes it will take time to build his desired roster but he doesnt need time to prove himself.

It will take him a little time to work out the issues with our culture. This is where we are now, he is sticking with the team and trying to understand why they are not performing. Why they choke when they do. Why they go missing when we needed them etc.

It will also take him a little time and identify the regular first grader players who just cant get it done. Some heads will roll. New heads will then be brought in.

All in all by this time next season he will have close to the team he wants and he will have ownership of it from there on in.

You are being very unfair calling jason taylor a muppet,muppets are much more likeable and bring pleasure to many.The only thing JT brought to every club was destruction from within either shaffting coaches or cause player disruption.

Least he was committed to the club, unlike the last coach

We agree to disagree,as far as i am concerned the only thing he has ever been committed to is himself.He white anted at every club he was at

 

[jirskyr]

My Question is when DO we become critical of this team and the management that gives us this team yearly .... How long does it have to be without any success before being critical is ACCEPTABLE ...you could not be critical last season as the coach needed TIME it just continues season after season .

Give the coach 3 years, simple.

General consensus is CEO is good, when he gets back.

Some ppl were critical of the board but the Chair has just changed so you need to leave that to work.

So the answer is 3 years to truly judge. Make ongoing assessments but you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater every 2 years, which is essentially what we've been doing.

This is Pascoes 4th year in charge and the roster is no better. What's another 3 years hey?

I responded to a similar comment in another thread. Pretty sure CEO has nothing to do with the roster, he just signs contracts.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

This giving a coach 3 years thing is just another steaming pile of mediocrity.

This is Michael Maguire, a premiership winning coach and one of the best in the business. You give muppets like Jason Taylor 3 years not proven professionals.

Yes it will take time to build his desired roster but he doesnt need time to prove himself.

It will take him a little time to work out the issues with our culture. This is where we are now, he is sticking with the team and trying to understand why they are not performing. Why they choke when they do. Why they go missing when we needed them etc.

It will also take him a little time and identify the regular first grader players who just cant get it done. Some heads will roll. New heads will then be brought in.

All in all by this time next season he will have close to the team he wants and he will have ownership of it from there on in.

You are being very unfair calling jason taylor a muppet,muppets are much more likeable and bring pleasure to many.The only thing JT brought to every club was destruction from within either shaffting coaches or cause player disruption.

Least he was committed to the club, unlike the last coach

We agree to disagree,as far as i am concerned the only thing he has ever been committed to is himself.He white anted at every club he was at

That's madness. To think he's worse than a coach who used us to cut a deal with another club which derailed our season is crazy. Taylor handled himself poorly, but Cleary's lack of integrity was next level.

 

[gallagher]

My Question is when DO we become critical of this team and the management that gives us this team yearly .... How long does it have to be without any success before being critical is ACCEPTABLE ...you could not be critical last season as the coach needed TIME it just continues season after season .

Give the coach 3 years, simple.

General consensus is CEO is good, when he gets back.

Some ppl were critical of the board but the Chair has just changed so you need to leave that to work.

So the answer is 3 years to truly judge. Make ongoing assessments but you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater every 2 years, which is essentially what we've been doing.

This is Pascoes 4th year in charge and the roster is no better. What's another 3 years hey?

I responded to a similar comment in another thread. Pretty sure CEO has nothing to do with the roster, he just signs contracts.

A good CEO would have input. But don't forget he appointed the coach so he can't wash his hands of the roster. He's supposedly in charge.

 

[earl]

That’s madness. To think he’s worse than a coach who used us to cut a deal with another club which derailed our season is crazy. Taylor handled himself poorly, but Cleary’s lack of integrity was next level.

I agree. There is no point in keep going over Taylor or Cleary and how they acted though. We need to move on and I think support Madge.

 

[Guest]

Far too many people live in the past - it's the future you should be worrying about. The way I see it, there's far more upside to our future, both on and off the field.