Western Sydney Wanderers

@Yossarian said:
I think the core issue is that regardless of whether you're 55kg or 155kg, don't stand on the bloody seats!!!

Each seat isn't individually bolted into the ground. If she's 55kg and brought down a whole tier of seats, by that logic the whole lot should have collapsed just by having everyone sit on the seats.

Allan, anyone outside the supporter base of the RBB and the Wanderers know that not everyone who supports the club is a knob, but you don't have to be an apologist for a small bunch of vandals who thought it would be great to destroy the seating or throw flares onto the pitch. I know full well as a football supporter that I am only deriding the actions of a minority, not the greater fan base.

The only problem I have with this is that the Wanderers only seem to be getting the focus, maybe because it is happening in Sydney… Victory supporters have been like this for years also, particularly when they play Sydney FC.
 
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@Allan Towle said:
Bring your family, you'll have a ball and all for a cost cheaper then going to Campbelltown.

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This sentence confirms my feelings earlier on in this thread. You sound like a scientologist on the recruit. Nothing against people having other interests but when you come onto the Wests Tigers Forum…which supports a joint venture, one half of which represents the McCarthur region, and brag about a rival code new to the area all the while having sly digs about our club....well it doesn't take a genius to see through your words. I said before this RBB thing sounds like a cult. The more you talk about it the more that assertion sounds right.

Mate you're really clutching at straws. This is a thread on the Western Sydney Wanderers. I'm not hijacking a match thread. This is where forum members can actually speak about the Wanderers club and its fans.

People are attacking the club I love. I'm just telling you my view from inside this supposed cult and if you're going to have a strong opinion against it, why don't you experience it for yourself first? I believe it was Aladinsane who went to the grand final where it was his first Wanderers game and look at his opinion. Someone who actually experienced it for themselves. You're basing everything you say off what you believe or hear from me, not what you've seen with your own eyes at a Wanderers match.

I'm a Wests Tigers fan and have been since inception. I still wear my old Balmain Tigers jersey around. I'm a passionate Wests Tigers supporter and member for this season. I've defended them just as much as I have the Wanderers when the club has been misrepresented by others.

I haven't taken any sly digs. Everything I have said is what I've experienced. Do you really think I would want any of the clubs I support to have any part of them dragged through the mud?

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@Yossarian said:
I think the core issue is that regardless of whether you're 55kg or 155kg, don't stand on the bloody seats!!!

It must be an active support thing, I honestly don't know. It's not just a Wanderers/RBB thing. I don't know how it stops. I guess it's up the FFA to enforce everyone to get off but as far as I know they don't have a massive issue with it.

I myself would rather stand on solid ground as then I don't have to worry about a seat breaking at all or falling off the front of it. If I did though, I would be looking at people's backs.

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I stand on the ground because I have seen people go arse over tit whilst standing on the seats after a few drinks, and I cannot bear the embarrassment nor the injury.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Yossarian said:
I think the core issue is that regardless of whether you're 55kg or 155kg, don't stand on the bloody seats!!!

Each seat isn't individually bolted into the ground. If she's 55kg and brought down a whole tier of seats, by that logic the whole lot should have collapsed just by having everyone sit on the seats.

Allan, anyone outside the supporter base of the RBB and the Wanderers know that not everyone who supports the club is a knob, but you don't have to be an apologist for a small bunch of vandals who thought it would be great to destroy the seating or throw flares onto the pitch. I know full well as a football supporter that I am only deriding the actions of a minority, not the greater fan base.

The only problem I have with this is that the Wanderers only seem to be getting the focus, maybe because it is happening in Sydney… Victory supporters have been like this for years also, particularly when they play Sydney FC.

I don't know mate. I'm not a Physics major but I saw the chair break underneath her. The seats around her were okay. There was a moment of like crap is she okay. She got up laughing and said something along the lines of "what the fork, I'm not a fat female dog".
A row of seats broke behind us and they weren't big or rowdy people either. That was the metal weld breaking off.

I don't know why we stand on the seats, but we do. This is one area the guys and girls can have a look at in the off-season.

And I beg to differ. There are a few forum members who clearly believe the RBB itself has massive issues with terms like mob and cult being thrown around. This is a minority issue but the whole supporter group is being attacked, and that's why I'm defending it.

A couple of rotten fans take away all the positive work that the supporter group has done. So I'll continue to defend it.
Some people expect answers in seconds but I struggle to believe that any organisation run solely by volunteers that has grown as rapid as the RBB has done could handle all the issues. I know the core of the RBB will be working extremely hard with the club, the FFA and the police to deal with the massive numbers expected season long next year.

And you're very much right about Wanderers getting all the focus. It happens at other clubs and in other codes too. The issues are societal problems, not the problems solely of a football supporter group.

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@Cultured Bogan said:
I stand on the ground because I have seen people go arse over tit whilst standing on the seats after a few drinks, and I cannot bear the embarrassment nor the injury.

I've been recovering from a knee reconstruction and there's been a few iffy moments. Luckily the game I drank at most was the away Mariners game where I was waving a flag on the fence.

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@Allan Towle said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Yossarian said:
I think the core issue is that regardless of whether you're 55kg or 155kg, don't stand on the bloody seats!!!

Each seat isn't individually bolted into the ground. If she's 55kg and brought down a whole tier of seats, by that logic the whole lot should have collapsed just by having everyone sit on the seats.

Allan, anyone outside the supporter base of the RBB and the Wanderers know that not everyone who supports the club is a knob, but you don't have to be an apologist for a small bunch of vandals who thought it would be great to destroy the seating or throw flares onto the pitch. I know full well as a football supporter that I am only deriding the actions of a minority, not the greater fan base.

The only problem I have with this is that the Wanderers only seem to be getting the focus, maybe because it is happening in Sydney… Victory supporters have been like this for years also, particularly when they play Sydney FC.

I don't know mate. I'm not a Physics major but I saw the chair break underneath her. The seats around her were okay. There was a moment of like crap is she okay. She got up laughing and said something along the lines of "what the fork, I'm not a fat female dog".
A row of seats broke behind us and they weren't big or rowdy people either. That was the metal weld breaking off.

I don't know why we stand on the seats, but we do. This is one area the guys and girls can have a look at in the off-season.

And I beg to differ. There are a few forum members who clearly believe the RBB itself has massive issues with terms like mob and cult being thrown around. This is a minority issue but the whole supporter group is being attacked, and that's why I'm defending it.

A couple of rotten fans take away all the positive work that the supporter group has done. So I'll continue to defend it.
Some people expect answers in seconds but I struggle to believe that any organisation run solely by volunteers that has grown as rapid as the RBB has done could handle all the issues. I know the core of the RBB will be working extremely hard with the club, the FFA and the police to deal with the massive numbers expected season long next year.

And you're very much right about Wanderers getting all the focus. It happens at other clubs and in other codes too. The issues are societal problems, not the problems solely of a football supporter group.

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She could well have been standing on the edge of the chair, seen that happen a few times, the plastic will obviously weather from cyclic heat and cold and you only need poor weight distribution to break the chair. My point is that quite a number of chairs are destroyed there, some leaning both forward and back. It's vandalism.
 
This has nothing to do with the discussion but does anyone else think that the WSW have pretty much put a gun through GWS?
 
No Pacey, the AFL will spend millions keeping that club alive until it is competitive. They know Sydneysiders love a winner.
 
@Allan Towle said:
@Yossarian said:
I think the core issue is that regardless of whether you're 55kg or 155kg, don't stand on the bloody seats!!!

It must be an active support thing, I honestly don't know. It's not just a Wanderers/RBB thing. I don't know how it stops. I guess it's up the FFA to enforce everyone to get off but as far as I know they don't have a massive issue with it.

I myself would rather stand on solid ground as then I don't have to worry about a seat breaking at all or falling off the front of it. If I did though, I would be looking at people's backs.

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I'm not restricting my comments to the RRB. It doesn't matter what fancy name you apply to it, seats are for sitting not standing!!
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
No Pacey, the AFL will spend millions keeping that club alive until it is competitive. They know Sydneysiders love a winner.

They'll spend a lot of money but I think in the end it will die. The Wanderers have the support of a massive amount of young kids coming through. Football (or soccer) playing numbers are skyrocketing in this area.

I don't think the AFL will ever be successful in Sydney's west. But they'll keep it alive because of the TV rights.

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LOL allan.. you're doing very well to dodge the issue.

the people in the rbb are doing the crap there.. a guy i have on fb kept calling other people "flogs" (as you call them), but putting up statuses on fb saying how he is gonna break this seat, sticket bomb this place, put up flares at this time etc etc etc.

blame your rbb leaders or whatever, but whatever "you" guys are doing.. there are people taking advantage of that

if you go to a football match and you have no idea when the national anthem is being sung, when the game has started or finished.. then mate you are doing it wrong.

rbb is a bunch of people who go out there to party and act like a bunch of rebels.. not to watch a football game.
unlucky, these people have not just ruined the experience for others, but ruined the "good work" as you put it of the rbb leaders.
 
@tig_prmz said:
LOL allan.. you're doing very well to dodge the issue.

the people in the rbb are doing the crap there.. a guy i have on fb kept calling other people "flogs" (as you call them), but putting up statuses on fb saying how he is gonna break this seat, sticket bomb this place, put up flares at this time etc etc etc.

blame your rbb leaders or whatever, but whatever "you" guys are doing.. there are people taking advantage of that

if you go to a football match and you have no idea when the national anthem is being sung, when the game has started or finished.. then mate you are doing it wrong.

rbb is a bunch of people who go out there to party and act like a bunch of rebels.. not to watch a football game.
unlucky, these people have not just ruined the experience for others, but ruined the "good work" as you put it of the rbb leaders.

We know when the match has started, finished and every other play in the game. We are chanting and watching the game. There are only a couple of people who don't actually get to watch the majority of the match and they are a few of the band members and the Capos.

We didn't know the national anthem was being sung and unless you were there you probably won't believe me. This same sung 'We are Australian' at the A-League game that was played on Harmony Day.

I can't speak for everyone but I know there has been a small element of people who go to a match and do what you're saying. They post photos how awesome the atmosphere in the RBB is, don't sing, are on the phone the whole game, say they love flares, etc. This bloke is a flog, he just doesn't know it.

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i cbf finding the quote but earlier you said something like : "you are not expected to watch the game, you are expected to cheer and jump and wave flags"

the way you talk and the way the "rbb" people talk… it's obvious what you guys are doing.. you go there for a football game yet you appreciate your rbb more than the football.

breaking chairs coz your team lost, that's not passion.. that's the urge to be a rebel.. YOUR group has created this environment
 
@tig_prmz said:
i cbf finding the quote but earlier you said something like : "you are not expected to watch the game, you are expected to cheer and jump and wave flags"

the way you talk and the way the "rbb" people talk… it's obvious what you guys are doing.. you go there for a football game yet you appreciate your rbb more than the football.

breaking chairs coz your team lost, that's not passion.. that's the urge to be a rebel.. YOUR group has created this environment

I don't think I said that. Everyone is expected to sing and chant and I expect to watch the game though the tickets are sold as restricted view as flags are waved. They occasionally get in your line of sight but are gone just as quick.

I go to watch and support the football side. We enjoy creating the atmosphere otherwise we wouldn't be doing it. We would sit somewhere else in the stadium. Would you prefer us to sit politely and golf clap? You can do that from somewhere else in the stadium. The RBB is for those who want to sing and chant while watching their football side play.

And the RBB has not created an environment for rebels. Rebellious teens and young people have probably found a home and belonging on the group. It's no where near as big an issue as some make it out to be though.

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@Allan Towle said:
RBB (Red & Black Bloc) is the active support group of the Wanderers. **We chant and sing pre-game, during the game and after it no matter the results on the field.** We also do the Poznan which is when we turn around with arms over the shoulders of the person next to you and jump up and down. We've been chanting RBB when we do this. It's only done in the 80th minute as it recognises the first game of football in western Sydney. At the semifinal we actually had a stadium wide Poznan and I've only ever seen that at Celtic matches.

**The RBB is not for everyone as we are standing on the seats for the entire game**, unless its the ones that flip up. We usually don't stand on them. **Also the view is often restricted with flags being waved and you are expected to sing the whole time.** We follow the lead of the Capos (the bloke with the megaphone) as to which chant we are doing and he organises it with the band.

Lately though the whole stadium has been singing a few of the chants, not all of them but they often contribute nonetheless. The RBB is infectious to all Wanderers fans.

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in this quote you sound a lot like the salesman for the rbb..

…anyways im done arguing about this, i've spent enough time already.

i'll take it as both of us are stubborn and we both believe what we want to, the other is not gonna change their minds.
 
@tig_prmz said:
@Allan Towle said:
RBB (Red & Black Bloc) is the active support group of the Wanderers. **We chant and sing pre-game, during the game and after it no matter the results on the field.** We also do the Poznan which is when we turn around with arms over the shoulders of the person next to you and jump up and down. We've been chanting RBB when we do this. It's only done in the 80th minute as it recognises the first game of football in western Sydney. At the semifinal we actually had a stadium wide Poznan and I've only ever seen that at Celtic matches.

**The RBB is not for everyone as we are standing on the seats for the entire game**, unless its the ones that flip up. We usually don't stand on them. **Also the view is often restricted with flags being waved and you are expected to sing the whole time.** We follow the lead of the Capos (the bloke with the megaphone) as to which chant we are doing and he organises it with the band.

Lately though the whole stadium has been singing a few of the chants, not all of them but they often contribute nonetheless. The RBB is infectious to all Wanderers fans.

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ps
in this quote you sound a lot like the salesman for the rbb..

…anyways im done arguing about this, i've spent enough time already.

i'll take it as both of us are stubborn and we both believe what we want to, the other is not gonna change their minds.

I am pretty stubborn.

And it's becoming quite clear that some people are just going to pretty much hate on the Wanderers and its fans without experiencing it for themselves. I'll always defend the club I love just like I have done with the Tigers in the past.

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@Allan Towle said:
I am pretty stubborn.

And it's becoming quite clear that some people are just going to pretty much hate on the Wanderers and its fans without **experiencing it for themselves**. I'll always defend the club I love just like I have done with the Tigers in the past.

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:laughing:
 
@tig_prmz said:
@Allan Towle said:
I am pretty stubborn.

And it's becoming quite clear that some people are just going to pretty much hate on the Wanderers and its fans without **experiencing it for themselves**. I'll always defend the club I love just like I have done with the Tigers in the past.

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:laughing:

Not sure what is so funny about that. You'll have to fill me in.

Read Aladinsane's post. His first Wanderers match was the grand final.

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