Wests Tigers could call Campbelltown home due to Balmain’s financial woes

[Tigermama]

And where are they ?

We get a Crowd of 10,917 at Campbelltown on a Saturday afternoon , 1st game of the year .

At Leichardt…..Monday Night footy , on a working Day and school Day with all those arrangements and still get a Crowd of 11,269 . 😱pen_mouth:

Who knows. Penrith have an even bigger population and got a similar figure for the Bulldogs game last week. Parra was similar too against the Cowboys if i'm not mistaken. Crowd numbers across the board are down.

Fans are not budging from their lounge rooms. Especially now with Fox sports televising all games… Ad free! :mrgreen:

 

[hammertime]

You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

I agree with you CB. This is the likely scenario. I'm not concerned about the next few years, Simon Cook seems like a good operator. I'm looking further into the future.

I want to follow the Tigers till I'm old and grey. Damaging the great board structure we have in place now, turning back the dial back to pre restructure and leaving the board open to abuse into the future (where guys like marsden can be in power or the guys who drove Balmain leagues into the ground) is what I and I think others are concerned with.

People can't see that? or is everyone somehow ok with going back to a structure that drove us broke before?

 

[Icon]

You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

I agree with you CB. This is the likely scenario. I'm not concerned about the next few years, Simon Cook seems like a good operator. I'm looking further into the future.

I want to follow the Tigers till I'm old and grey. Damaging the great board structure we have in place now, turning back the dial back to pre restructure and leaving the board open to abuse into the future (where guys like marsden can be in power or the guys who drove Balmain leagues into the ground) is what I and I think others are concerned with.

People can't see that? or is everyone somehow ok with going back to a structure that drove us broke before?

BINGO!

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If Wests own the whole kit, there won't be a going back to what we had before. They will be 100% in control so the factional fighting will be non-existent.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

I agree with you CB. This is the likely scenario. I'm not concerned about the next few years, Simon Cook seems like a good operator. I'm looking further into the future.

I want to follow the Tigers till I'm old and grey. Damaging the great board structure we have in place now, turning back the dial back to pre restructure and leaving the board open to abuse into the future (where guys like marsden can be in power or the guys who drove Balmain leagues into the ground) is what I and I think others are concerned with.

People can't see that? or is everyone somehow ok with going back to a structure that drove us broke before?

Most likely scenario in my opinion.

I might be crazy but I still see Liverpool as an ideal place for a new stadium in Sydney's West if one was to be built. The tenants could be the Wests Tigers, Bulldogs (almost moved their beforehand) and an A league side (mostly likely a new team, probably owned by Liverpool FC in the UK).

 

[Geo]

And where are they ?

We get a Crowd of 10,917 at Campbelltown on a Saturday afternoon , 1st game of the year .

At Leichardt…..Monday Night footy , on a working Day and school Day with all those arrangements and still get a Crowd of 11,269 . 😱pen_mouth:

That's easy when I walked past Callan Park the gate was open and 352 people got out…

 

[Yossarian]

A Terror article and now 5 pages of comments based on some quotes from Jim Marsden. Is even involved at all these days? A quick read of the actual article would tell you the people actually running the joint are saying nada. Rubbish article that says nothing. I understand home ground allocations are important but this article is a waste of column inches

Pretty much Yoss. A fluff piece in the Macarthur Chronicle, designed as click bait for locals in that area, with quotes mostly from an incredibly biased and incompetent fool (Marsden) giving the paper quotes they presume the Macarthur locals want to hear.

Cook is at least included too, and has a reasonable opinion on the matter. From a business perspective it would be catastrophic to relocate to Campbelltown. Cook knows it. The neutral board members know it. In any case our long term commitment to ANZ means nothing will be changing for some time in any case.

People like Marsden are exactly why we're in this position now, and he should be excluded from any reasonable discussion on the future of the WT by all fans and media alike (not that that's going to happen). And there are others too from Wests and Balmain (I'd certainly include muppets like Leslie Glenn in that list) that should be barred from having any involvement in the WT.

Well yeah. I'd think Wests Ashfield are more interested in Homebush than Campbelltown.

 

[tigermac88]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. In an ideal I would like to see Campbelltown Stadium redeveloped to seat 30k. Pull down both grandstands with new, larger stands running the length of the field and it can be done. Logisitically and geographically I think Leichhardt is screwed in this case. You could put up a new main grandstand there but that's about it, the hill couldn't really go due to housing backing onto it.

There is a problem with Campbelltown though, and it's the same as Leichhardt…Each council charges an arm and a leg for us to play out of each ground, and we really need consistent crowds of 15,000 plus to make a tidy profit. As it currently stands, this doesn't happen too often. I'm sure if we were well entrenched in the 8 year after year the story would be different, but it's not.

Homebush guarantees the club $100k straight up. It's too much to turn down in the hope that the fans will constantly pack out Campbelltown and Leichhardt every second weekend. And folks is the reality of the situation.

Is that 100k per season?? If we are making money playing at ANZ but losing money playing at Campbelltown and Leichardt it seems like a no brainer to me

 

[batboy]

They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

The club has already lost supporters who've felt disconnected with the club.

They'll be back - If we keep winning…. They'll be back in droves!!
Along with thousands more.
- If we hang onto the 3 kids, Tens of thousands will come!!
If we take a few bucks to take a game to Brisbane, Darwin, Perth or Adelaide anytime in the future - There'll be even more fans.
It seems to be of the opinion of the SW that the only place to get WT fans in the SW...
Tedesco, Brooks and Moses are the most sellable kids in the game. It's like having 3 Benjis playing for us - From a marketability POV.
Get some runs on the board and you'll see how much of the SW comes running back....

My Shark mad mate has an Autistic daughter about 10-11... Been a mad Sharkie all her life god bless her... Lives in Newcastle,
- Ask her who her favourite footy players are in the last 6 months - ALL TIGERS BOYS!!

Our biggest obstacle is keeping these kids, Not connecting with this area or that one....
Hang onto these 3 - We'll have new (And old) fans from all over the world...

 

[Yossarian]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. In an ideal I would like to see Campbelltown Stadium redeveloped to seat 30k. Pull down both grandstands with new, larger stands running the length of the field and it can be done. Logisitically and geographically I think Leichhardt is screwed in this case. You could put up a new main grandstand there but that's about it, the hill couldn't really go due to housing backing onto it.

There is a problem with Campbelltown though, and it's the same as Leichhardt…Each council charges an arm and a leg for us to play out of each ground, and we really need consistent crowds of 15,000 plus to make a tidy profit. As it currently stands, this doesn't happen too often. I'm sure if we were well entrenched in the 8 year after year the story would be different, but it's not.

Homebush guarantees the club $100k straight up. It's too much to turn down in the hope that the fans will constantly pack out Campbelltown and Leichhardt every second weekend. And folks is the reality of the situation.

Is that 100k per season?? If we are making money playing at ANZ but losing money playing at Campbelltown and Leichardt it seems like a no brainer to me

Per game.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

It was $150,000 per game many years back when we first played at ANZ.

 

[shane2801]

Why is it trash? Long term it has to happen.

Why does it have to happen ?

Because the area is booming. Other teams know this and is why they've tried to move in on it.

It has to happen in your eyes because your the first in when it comes to the demise of Balmain .
And don't deny it !

ANZ is the future like it or not .
Cambeltown is too far from the main corridor for starters , And what's it booming with besides the highest unemployment rate and Asian bakeries …Please ...

Nothing like a sterotype eh Hobbo? Clown.

 

[tigermac88]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. In an ideal I would like to see Campbelltown Stadium redeveloped to seat 30k. Pull down both grandstands with new, larger stands running the length of the field and it can be done. Logisitically and geographically I think Leichhardt is screwed in this case. You could put up a new main grandstand there but that's about it, the hill couldn't really go due to housing backing onto it.

There is a problem with Campbelltown though, and it's the same as Leichhardt…Each council charges an arm and a leg for us to play out of each ground, and we really need consistent crowds of 15,000 plus to make a tidy profit. As it currently stands, this doesn't happen too often. I'm sure if we were well entrenched in the 8 year after year the story would be different, but it's not.

Homebush guarantees the club $100k straight up. It's too much to turn down in the hope that the fans will constantly pack out Campbelltown and Leichhardt every second weekend. And folks is the reality of the situation.

Is that 100k per season?? If we are making money playing at ANZ but losing money playing at Campbelltown and Leichardt it seems like a no brainer to me

Per game.

Well why wouldn't we entertain the idea of playing more games at ANZ not less if it is a steady source of guaranteed income for our club, lets be honest our club hasn't been a great financial success ever since the JV began 15 years ago

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. In an ideal I would like to see Campbelltown Stadium redeveloped to seat 30k. Pull down both grandstands with new, larger stands running the length of the field and it can be done. Logisitically and geographically I think Leichhardt is screwed in this case. You could put up a new main grandstand there but that's about it, the hill couldn't really go due to housing backing onto it.

There is a problem with Campbelltown though, and it's the same as Leichhardt…Each council charges an arm and a leg for us to play out of each ground, and we really need consistent crowds of 15,000 plus to make a tidy profit. As it currently stands, this doesn't happen too often. I'm sure if we were well entrenched in the 8 year after year the story would be different, but it's not.

Homebush guarantees the club $100k straight up. It's too much to turn down in the hope that the fans will constantly pack out Campbelltown and Leichhardt every second weekend. And folks is the reality of the situation.

Is that 100k per season?? If we are making money playing at ANZ but losing money playing at Campbelltown and Leichardt it seems like a no brainer to me

Per game.

Well why wouldn't we entertain the idea of playing more games at ANZ not less if it is a steady source of guaranteed income for our club, lets be honest our club hasn't been a great financial success ever since the JV began 15 years ago

I think for the club it's a numbers game. How many fans do they piss off by taking all games to ANZ? I mean I wouldn't be 100% happy with it given I grew up with LO and the Wests fans of my vintage would have done the same with CSS, but if it meant guaranteed financial stability I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. Some other fans put emotion and tradition before viability and the club may risk losing them.

 

[hobbo]

Why does it have to happen ?

Because the area is booming. Other teams know this and is why they've tried to move in on it.

It has to happen in your eyes because your the first in when it comes to the demise of Balmain .
And don't deny it !

ANZ is the future like it or not .
Cambeltown is too far from the main corridor for starters , And what's it booming with besides the highest unemployment rate and Asian bakeries …Please ...

Nothing like a sterotype eh Hobbo? Clown.

Obviously no sense of humour ?
Try your local $2 shop , they might sell them :laughing:

 

[Guest]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. In an ideal I would like to see Campbelltown Stadium redeveloped to seat 30k. Pull down both grandstands with new, larger stands running the length of the field and it can be done. Logisitically and geographically I think Leichhardt is screwed in this case. You could put up a new main grandstand there but that's about it, the hill couldn't really go due to housing backing onto it.

There is a problem with Campbelltown though, and it's the same as Leichhardt…Each council charges an arm and a leg for us to play out of each ground, and we really need consistent crowds of 15,000 plus to make a tidy profit. As it currently stands, this doesn't happen too often. I'm sure if we were well entrenched in the 8 year after year the story would be different, but it's not.

Homebush guarantees the club $100k straight up. It's too much to turn down in the hope that the fans will constantly pack out Campbelltown and Leichhardt every second weekend. And folks is the reality of the situation.

Is that 100k per season?? If we are making money playing at ANZ but losing money playing at Campbelltown and Leichardt it seems like a no brainer to me

100k per game. It's great money which is too much too knock back.

 

[Carefactor]

WESTSTIGERS are in a very unique position ! They have a traditional Wests /Balamin and Weststigers supporter base in the Inner West AND Outer West of Sydney . They have the VERY BEST of both worlds , the fans and SPONSORS .
Stop the sooking and connecting inner west fans as Balmain and Outer West as Magpies . We seem to struggle financially already , so why weaken our strengths and continue this stupid division rubbish ! Its ONE club now .

Ask yourself …. Where is the heart of South Sydney Rabbits ? When was the last game at Redfern ?
Bunnies fans are EVERYWHERE like us , AND THEY SUPPORT THE CLUB ! and do it BETTER than us without all the BS !!

 

[shane2801]

Because the area is booming. Other teams know this and is why they've tried to move in on it.

It has to happen in your eyes because your the first in when it comes to the demise of Balmain .
And don't deny it !

ANZ is the future like it or not .
Cambeltown is too far from the main corridor for starters , And what's it booming with besides the highest unemployment rate and Asian bakeries …Please ...

Nothing like a sterotype eh Hobbo? Clown.

Obviously no sense of humour ?
Try your local $2 shop , they might sell them :laughing:

Something tells me you weren't joking. Nice try.

 

[underdog]

It has to happen in your eyes because your the first in when it comes to the demise of Balmain .
And don't deny it !

ANZ is the future like it or not .
Cambeltown is too far from the main corridor for starters , And what's it booming with besides the highest unemployment rate and Asian bakeries …Please ...

Nothing like a sterotype eh Hobbo? Clown.

Obviously no sense of humour ?
Try your local $2 shop , they might sell them :laughing:

Something tells me you weren't joking. Nice try.

I grew up in that area and spent 31 of my 34 years in and around Cambo.

Needless to say Hobbo….. you are 100% correct. You could take your pick of 2 dollar shops along queen street. :mrgreen:

Traditional Campbelltown is dying a slow death - the real growth areas are in the surrounds - Narellan, Camden, Oran Park, Leppington - huge influx of families, and a massive junior nursery just growing.

 

[851]

Nothing like a sterotype eh Hobbo? Clown.

Obviously no sense of humour ?
Try your local $2 shop , they might sell them :laughing:

Something tells me you weren't joking. Nice try.

I grew up in that area and spent 31 of my 34 years in and around Cambo.

Needless to say Hobbo….. you are 100% correct. You could take your pick of 2 dollar shops along queen street. :mrgreen:

Traditional Campbelltown is dying a slow death - the real growth areas are in the surrounds - Narellan, Camden, Oran Park, Leppington - huge influx of families, and a massive junior nursery just growing.

And they are just down the road from Campbelltown Stadium.