Wests Tigers could call Campbelltown home due to Balmain’s financial woes

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A Terror article and now 5 pages of comments based on some quotes from Jim Marsden. Is even involved at all these days? A quick read of the actual article would tell you the people actually running the joint are saying nada. Rubbish article that says nothing. I understand home ground allocations are important but this article is a waste of column inches

Yes, but you can't hide away from the fact there is a massive change occurring and one side is being eaten up, which leads to one side having a mandate, to make changes, as has been suggested in the article.

i'm nervous about this.

 

[Sabre]

They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

 

[TrueTiger]

I will just say one thing on this subject and it is the travel to a home ground that people approve or disapprove of…....

I have followed Rugby League and the Balmain Tigers ( now the Wests Tigers) for a substantial amount of my life...I have traveled from the Southern Highlands of NSW and from Wagga Wagga to watch the Balmain Tigers and now Wests Tigers play at LO.Redfern,SCG,SFS,North Sydney Oval,Lidcombe Oval,Belmore Oval and ANZ Stadium ...now I'm not looking for an aggressive argument,however with commuter services these days it would be easy to travel say from Campbell town or Liverpool into say ANZ ....If there was a game at Campbell town surely the travel into Leumeah station and a walk to the ground can't be that difficult if you live within the Greater Sydney region..as I said I'm not looking for an argument but more for a solution from the powers that be to find a middle ground so to speak..I also know from experience commuter travel on game day can be hectic especially if you have children...so realistically what is the answer,a central ground for easy access or play at ANZ and get the big dollars...this is the headache that the powers that be will have,I already said what I have travelled to support my team,what would the rest do.???

 

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You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

you start with "you want to know what will happen"

but than all your points are "likely"

gives me no confidence

 

[boonboon]

Interesting to me as someone who live in Ashfield and is both a member and frequents the Wests Ashfield Leagues club is that the closest home ground for the people of Ashfield is Leichardt - Direct public transport via the light rail, 10 minute drive down the road and most people who live in Ashfield now from my experience are more likely to be old Balmain supporters then anything else.

I personally think we should have 10 at ANZ, 1 each at the others but if I was voting at Wests Ashfield (which as a member I can) then I would vote for Leichardt over Cambelltown and im sure given most living near Ashfield would have never been to campbelltown but would frequent Leichardt regularly would too

 

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I will just say one thing on this subject and it is the travel to a home ground that people approve or disapprove of…....

I have followed Rugby League and the Balmain Tigers ( now the Wests Tigers) for a substantial amount of my life...I have traveled from the Southern Highlands of NSW and from Wagga Wagga to watch the Balmain Tigers and now Wests Tigers play at LO.Redfern,SCG,SFS,North Sydney Oval,Lidcombe Oval,Belmore Oval and ANZ Stadium ...now I'm not looking for an aggressive argument,however with commuter services these days it would be easy to travel say from Campbell town or Liverpool into say ANZ ....If there was a game at Campbell town surely the travel into Leumeah station and a walk to the ground can't be that difficult if you live within the Greater Sydney region..as I said I'm not looking for an argument but more for a solution from the powers that be to find a middle ground so to speak..I also know from experience commuter travel on game day can be hectic especially if you have children...so realistically what is the answer,a central ground for easy access or play at ANZ and get the big dollars...this is the headache that the powers that be will have,I already said what I have travelled to support my team,what would the rest do.???

mate, i live in north sydney and i go to all the home games and half the away games, for me it's a bit of fun, but if you play all the games out at campbelltown, for me its a difficult proposition, and i'm more likely to buy tickets week to week, i suppose that's the difference.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

The club has already lost supporters who've felt disconnected with the club.

 

[Sabre]

You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

you start with "you want to know what will happen"

but than all your points are "likely"

gives me no confidence

You expect him to know 100% what will happen?

 

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They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

The club has already lost supporters who've felt disconnected with the club.

who are you suggesting these supporters are?

once the merger happened, if you were not comfortable following a merged team than you folded your cards, but the supporters now are made of old balmain , old wests and new wests tigers fans, all becoming wests tigers supporters.

the disconnected supporters were lose 15 years ago!

 

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You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

you start with "you want to know what will happen"

that was the opening line

but than all your points are "likely"

gives me no confidence

You expect him to know 100% what will happen?

 

[Icon]

You want to know what will happen?

- Balmain will default;
- Wests Group who have in the past said they will not buy Balmain's share (likely out of quiet respect for Balmain,) will likely do so and will own the outfit outright. If not, the NRL will hang on to the Balmain share until a private investor eventuates;
- The team name, logo, home grounds will likely not change in the interim. The only real change I can see is us going full time at ANZ in order to fill our coffers a little more;
- There will be no return of the Magpies;
- Wests Group will likely fund Balmain juniors.

There's no chicken little there.

you start with "you want to know what will happen"
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but than all your points are "likely"

gives me no confidence

You expect him to know 100% what will happen?

that was the opening line!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

The club has already lost supporters who've felt disconnected with the club.

who are you suggesting these supporters are?

once the merger happened, if you were not comfortable following a merged team than you folded your cards, but the supporters now are made of old balmain , old wests and new wests tigers fans, all becoming wests tigers supporters.

the disconnected supporters were lose 15 years ago!

There have been a lot walk away in the last 5 or so yrs due to the club not fully embracing the SW. Not condoning it, but it's happened.

 

[balmain boy]

A Terror article and now 5 pages of comments based on some quotes from Jim Marsden. Is even involved at all these days? A quick read of the actual article would tell you the people actually running the joint are saying nada. Rubbish article that says nothing. I understand home ground allocations are important but this article is a waste of column inches

Pretty much Yoss. A fluff piece in the Macarthur Chronicle, designed as click bait for locals in that area, with quotes mostly from an incredibly biased and incompetent fool (Marsden) giving the paper quotes they presume the Macarthur locals want to hear.

Cook is at least included too, and has a reasonable opinion on the matter. From a business perspective it would be catastrophic to relocate to Campbelltown. Cook knows it. The neutral board members know it. In any case our long term commitment to ANZ means nothing will be changing for some time in any case.

People like Marsden are exactly why we're in this position now, and he should be excluded from any reasonable discussion on the future of the WT by all fans and media alike (not that that's going to happen). And there are others too from Wests and Balmain (I'd certainly include muppets like Leslie Glenn in that list) that should be barred from having any involvement in the WT.

 

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They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

The club has already lost supporters who've felt disconnected with the club.

who are you suggesting these supporters are?

once the merger happened, if you were not comfortable following a merged team than you folded your cards, but the supporters now are made of old balmain , old wests and new wests tigers fans, all becoming wests tigers supporters.

the disconnected supporters were lose 15 years ago!

There have been a lot walk away in the last 5 or so yrs due to the club not fully embracing the SW. Not condoning it, but it's happened.

can you answer me why?

we play the same amount of games at campbelltown as we do at Leichhardt, and the remainder at homebush, which is a neutral venue. yes i understand your point is about south west, but it's still their territory.

i just can't get my head around the whole campbelltown thing, i go out there every game and it's just not a happening thing, in a major way. So, the call is that we don't look after them, i think they are just not that interested out there. Like "she's just not that into you"

btw, i'm absolutely not saying we move away from there, it's 50% of us.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Icon, you clearly have no connection to the place. I don't mean that as a knock, but if you did you might understand. I sometimes don't get the fuss about Leichhardt either, but that's probably because I don't have a connection to that ground.

In answer to your question as to why, I've heard many people say it's because the club spends 4 days a yr in the area on game days then they're back in the inner city. It's similar to the fear in this thread about us basing ourselves in the SW and thinking the only time the club will ever show up back in the inner west is on game days. The fears here are the reasons why people have walked away only the roles are reversed. Before you shoot me down, I'm only passing it on what I've heard.

 

[Guest]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. In an ideal I would like to see Campbelltown Stadium redeveloped to seat 30k. Pull down both grandstands with new, larger stands running the length of the field and it can be done. Logisitically and geographically I think Leichhardt is screwed in this case. You could put up a new main grandstand there but that's about it, the hill couldn't really go due to housing backing onto it.

There is a problem with Campbelltown though, and it's the same as Leichhardt…Each council charges an arm and a leg for us to play out of each ground, and we really need consistent crowds of 15,000 plus to make a tidy profit. As it currently stands, this doesn't happen too often. I'm sure if we were well entrenched in the 8 year after year the story would be different, but it's not.

Homebush guarantees the club $100k straight up. It's too much to turn down in the hope that the fans will constantly pack out Campbelltown and Leichhardt every second weekend. And folks is the reality of the situation.

 

[Icon]

Icon, you clearly have no connection to the place. I don't mean that as a knock, but if you did you might understand. I sometimes don't get the fuss about Leichhardt either, but that's probably because I don't have a connection to that ground.

In answer to your question as to why, I've heard many people say it's because the club spends 4 days a yr in the area on game days then they're back in the inner city. It's similar to the fear in this thread about us basing ourselves in the SW and thinking the only time the club will ever show up back in the inner west is on game days. The fears here are the reasons why people have walked away only the roles are reversed. Before you shoot me down, I'm only passing it on what I've heard.

I grew up in Lidcombe, and i'll be honest and say i don't have a connection to Campbelltown, that doesn't mean i can't see what's around me and get a feeling.

thanks for your measured response, what you wrote makes sense.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Icon, you clearly have no connection to the place. I don't mean that as a knock, but if you did you might understand. I sometimes don't get the fuss about Leichhardt either, but that's probably because I don't have a connection to that ground.

In answer to your question as to why, I've heard many people say it's because the club spends 4 days a yr in the area on game days then they're back in the inner city. It's similar to the fear in this thread about us basing ourselves in the SW and thinking the only time the club will ever show up back in the inner west is on game days. The fears here are the reasons why people have walked away only the roles are reversed. Before you shoot me down, I'm only passing it on what I've heard.

Icon may not be attached via umbilical chord, but attending all our games at the venue is a fair connection for mine.

Until we get a quality rectangular stadium, I am quite happy being a nomad.

 

[Tigermama]

They might not base themselves in Ctown per'se, but Marina Go and Co have already earmarked the area as a key to our future by sounding that they want the club to eventually set up base in Liverpool.

Gee, I bet the players can't wait to move to Liverpool 😕

Players don't necessarily live where they train Tony.