Wests Tigers could call Campbelltown home due to Balmain’s financial woes

[underdog]

OH I wasn't referring to the stadium - I'm all for upgrading Cambo as a ground,

I was referring the the insightful commentary on what Campbelltown is evolving into.

 

[foreveratiger]

He is spot on Underdog :laughing: .

I grew up in the Fairfield West area for 25 years , but saw the light 10 years ago and couldn't get out of there quick enough .
The place has nothing going for it…...overcrowded road raging Maniacs , no courtesy on queues at the shops , people staring each other out , the M4 has tyres on the side , Mcdonalds wrappers all over the side of the M4 , the place is a pig style.
Towards Liverpool you have newspapers all over the floor , bottles , Shopping trolleys upside down here and there , playgrounds grafitied all over , grass not maintained , the Apartments around Liverpool have there Balcony's full of clothes you can't even see the window
We went to Smithfield for Christmas with Family and friends that still live there, we have a 4 Day limit .

Yes hobbo plenty of Bakeries and $2.00 shops :laughing:

 

[hobbo]

He is spot on Underdog :laughing: .

I grew up in the Fairfield West area for 25 years , but saw the light 10 years ago and couldn't get out of there quick enough .
The place has nothing going for it…...overcrowded road raging Maniacs , no courtesy on queues at the shops , people staring each other out , the M4 has tyres on the side , Mcdonalds wrappers all over the side of the M4 , the place is a pig style.
Towards Liverpool you have newspapers all over the floor , bottles , Shopping trolleys upside down here and there , playgrounds grafitied all over , grass not maintained , the Apartments around Liverpool have there Balcony's full of clothes you can't even see the window
We went to Smithfield for Christmas with Family and friends that still live there, we have a 4 Day limit .

Yes hobbo plenty of Bakeries and $2.00 shops :laughing:

I love a good bread roll :smiley:

 

[innsaneink]

Nothing like a sterotype eh Hobbo? Clown.

Obviously no sense of humour ?
Try your local $2 shop , they might sell them :laughing:

Something tells me you weren't joking. Nice try.

I grew up in that area and spent 31 of my 34 years in and around Cambo.

Needless to say Hobbo….. you are 100% correct. You could take your pick of 2 dollar shops along queen street. :mrgreen:

Traditional Campbelltown is dying a slow death - the real growth areas are in the surrounds - Narellan, Camden, Oran Park, Leppington - huge influx of families, and a massive junior nursery just growing.

Take a drive through Ashfield

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

 

[foreveratiger]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

There is no doubt that there is to many Sydney teams , it's a question of when the NRL will act on it and reduce the teams in Sydney?
When it happens ? what do people want….us joining another Club like Penrith or a Parramatta ? for example , the general poor Crowds of many NRL sides suggest that Clubs are simply not getting the revenue through the gates and many Clubs are needing a lot more Memberships to stay afloat , the NRL has already topped up 3 Clubs to help them out through there Financial troubles and with the game now becoming a T.V Heaven on Foxs Sports crowds will continue to struggle .

I have also said that in the past goldcoast tiger that the 1st Club to able to get to Perth will insure there survival and like you said they will be playing in Sydney at least 8 times .
Many won't like the idea but the fans you will loose in Sydney over the decision to go to Perth ? i'm sure eventually you will get the support in Perth and rubber stamp our future.....won't be an easy transition for many btu it's only a matter of time before the NRL acts on it .

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

There is no doubt that there is to many Sydney teams , it's a question of when the NRL will act on it and reduce the teams in Sydney?
When it happens ? what do people want….us joining another Club like Penrith or a Parramatta ? for example , the general poor Crowds of many NRL sides suggest that Clubs are simply not getting the revenue through the gates and many Clubs are needing a lot more Memberships to stay afloat , the NRL has already topped up 3 Clubs to help them out through there Financial troubles and with the game now becoming a T.V Heaven on Foxs Sports crowds will continue to struggle .

I have also said that in the past goldcoast tiger that the 1st Club to able to get to Perth will insure there survival and like you said they will be playing in Sydney at least 8 times .
Many won't like the idea but the fans you will loose in Sydney over the decision to go to Perth ? i'm sure eventually you will get the support in Perth and rubber stamp our future.....won't be an easy transition for many btu it's only a matter of time before the NRL acts on it .

I fully understand that those who go to every home ground as well as their other games in Sydney, wouldn't like it, as I wasn't happy about that when I moved to Qld.
And that was in 1980, so there wasn't much on tv then.
Even now I only get to see a couple of games live. But I still get to see every game that they play.
Even if we do get better at times, I can't see us really getting to being one of the big fish unless we are prepared to make the hard decisions that are needed.
Just for once I'd like to see us take the initiative , and not always trying to catch up.
Now I'm going to the shelter, as I think I hear arrows :laughing:

 

[TIGER]

Ask any Weststigers supporter where they enjoy watching their team play and Leichhardt oval will be the answer 90% of the time, i don't buy this Campbeltown is our heartland stuff, if we're supposed to have this huge supporter base in the greater west, why don't we pack out Campbeltown Stadium everytime we play there? I know what ground gives me tingles down my spine when the Tigers chant goes up.

 

[pHyR3]

our long term future is a ground where we pay tens of thousands of $s to play at and recorded a 10k average the last 3 years?

doesnt sound like a bright future

Yeah, an area with a population of nearly 150 000 people. Not bright at all.

as opposed to 200k in the inner west and a stadium we literally get paid truckloads of cash to play at. its a tough choice

What stadium in the inner west is that?

never said it was in the inner west. but anz - thats the future not campbo or leichardt.

or potentially parra but thats less likely although it'd suit us a lot better size wise

 

[GNR4LIFE]

never said it was in the inner west. but anz - thats the future not campbo or leichardt.

or potentially parra but thats less likely although it'd suit us a lot better size wise

Faor enough mate

 

[Spartan117]

The sooner we get a stadium built in or around liverpool the better.

Im not attached to either LO or CSS. I grew up going to Kogarah with dad.

I just want one home. One training ground.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

They play all games out of Campbelltown and they immediately lose a large number of fans that are now disconnected with the team because it's too far to travel.
Similar thing happens if they play entirely out of Leichhardt.

I think the best thing would be 10 games at ANZ, 1 at Campbelltown and 1 at Leichhardt.

The Tigers are apparently also in talks about the new Moore Park Stadium/Refurbished SFS/whatever they end up going with there.

The club has already lost supporters who've felt disconnected with the club.

who are you suggesting these supporters are?

once the merger happened, if you were not comfortable following a merged team than you folded your cards, but the supporters now are made of old balmain , old wests and new wests tigers fans, all becoming wests tigers supporters.

the disconnected supporters were lose 15 years ago!

Believe me many former magpies fans feel disconnected and some may return as Souths fans did if the club were portrayed more as the West Tigers. Many just feel that at least in the past the club was pushed too much as a rebranded Balmain.. They are not fossils just people like Souths fans who in the 90s could not draw 4000 ticket holders and now have 26000.. They just came out of the woods.

Sometimes on here I get the feeling that Balmain people fear some sort of retribution perhaps based on "what they would have done" if they were in that position.

Relax guys there is no hidden agenda. Wests may want their 50% of the JV portrayed better which needs to happen but we take no pleasure in seeing Balmains financial demise which is putting pressure on everyone and keeps the clubs future fluid which means a lack of concrete stability going forward.

 

[innsaneink]

Ask any Weststigers supporter where they enjoy watching their team play and Leichhardt oval will be the answer 90% of the time, i don't buy this Campbeltown is our heartland stuff, if we're supposed to have this huge supporter base in the greater west, why don't we pack out Campbeltown Stadium everytime we play there? I know what ground gives me tingles down my spine when the Tigers chant goes up.

Such a garbage post on so many levels

90%…lol...BS
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No one's asking you to buy anything

WHO said we have a huge supporter base, you seem to be of the opinion only locals should attend our suburban grounds... Maybe people from the inner west don't travel that's why we don't pack out Cambo? Ever think of that?

The ground gives you tingles when the chant goes up?
I guess you're one of those that support the ground before the team.

Crap post... Nothing personal

 

[Milky]

I don't give a rats where we play tbh

Whether its Leichhardt, Campbelltown or ANZ.

You oldies need to relax, we are one club.

 

[TIGER]

Ask any Weststigers supporter where they enjoy watching their team play and Leichhardt oval will be the answer 90% of the time, i don't buy this Campbeltown is our heartland stuff, if we're supposed to have this huge supporter base in the greater west, why don't we pack out Campbeltown Stadium everytime we play there? I know what ground gives me tingles down my spine when the Tigers chant goes up.

Such a garbage post on so many levels

90%…lol...BS
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No one's asking you to buy anything

WHO said we have a huge supporter base, you seem to be of the opinion only locals should attend our suburban grounds... Maybe people from the inner west don't travel that's why we don't pack out Cambo? Ever think of that?

The ground gives you tingles when the chant goes up?
I guess you're one of those that support the ground before the team.

Crap post... Nothing personal

The atmosphere at the ground, im sure you knew what i was talking about and im just talking as a supporter and my experience of attending all our home venues.

 

[weststigers]

Ask any Weststigers supporter where they enjoy watching their team play and Leichhardt oval will be the answer 90% of the time, i don't buy this Campbeltown is our heartland stuff, if we're supposed to have this huge supporter base in the greater west, why don't we pack out Campbeltown Stadium everytime we play there? I know what ground gives me tingles down my spine when the Tigers chant goes up.

Such a garbage post on so many levels

90%…lol...BS
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No one's asking you to buy anything

WHO said we have a huge supporter base, you seem to be of the opinion only locals should attend our suburban grounds... Maybe people from the inner west don't travel that's why we don't pack out Cambo? Ever think of that?

The ground gives you tingles when the chant goes up?
I guess you're one of those that support the ground before the team.

Crap post... Nothing personal

I think he's saying Campbelltown is miles away unless you live in Campbelltown hence the lack of crowds.

 

[Tigerdon]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

There is no doubt that there is to many Sydney teams , it's a question of when the NRL will act on it and reduce the teams in Sydney?
When it happens ? what do people want….us joining another Club like Penrith or a Parramatta ? for example , the general poor Crowds of many NRL sides suggest that Clubs are simply not getting the revenue through the gates and many Clubs are needing a lot more Memberships to stay afloat , the NRL has already topped up 3 Clubs to help them out through there Financial troubles and with the game now becoming a T.V Heaven on Foxs Sports crowds will continue to struggle .

I have also said that in the past goldcoast tiger that the 1st Club to able to get to Perth will insure there survival and like you said they will be playing in Sydney at least 8 times .
Many won't like the idea but the fans you will loose in Sydney over the decision to go to Perth ? i'm sure eventually you will get the support in Perth and rubber stamp our future.....won't be an easy transition for many btu it's only a matter of time before the NRL acts on it .

I'm not really a fan off moving the whole club to Perth. However a couple of trial games and maybe one NRL game to gauge the interest would be good for the club.

As for last Monday Nights game at Leichhardt, that was a fantastic crowd. It's hard to see many Monday nights crowds in the NRL that are going to be bigger than that or have an atmosphere to match what we saw at Leichhardt. There is genuine excitement in the area again with all our juniors coming through. Woods grew up down the road and is a lovable Captain.

The Easter game at ANZ will also be great. ANZ works for these big games against the Bulldogs and Parra.

 

[foreveratiger]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

There is no doubt that there is to many Sydney teams , it's a question of when the NRL will act on it and reduce the teams in Sydney?
When it happens ? what do people want….us joining another Club like Penrith or a Parramatta ? for example , the general poor Crowds of many NRL sides suggest that Clubs are simply not getting the revenue through the gates and many Clubs are needing a lot more Memberships to stay afloat , the NRL has already topped up 3 Clubs to help them out through there Financial troubles and with the game now becoming a T.V Heaven on Foxs Sports crowds will continue to struggle .

I have also said that in the past goldcoast tiger that the 1st Club to able to get to Perth will insure there survival and like you said they will be playing in Sydney at least 8 times .
Many won't like the idea but the fans you will loose in Sydney over the decision to go to Perth ? i'm sure eventually you will get the support in Perth and rubber stamp our future.....won't be an easy transition for many btu it's only a matter of time before the NRL acts on it .

I'm not really a fan off moving the whole club to Perth. However a couple of trial games and maybe one NRL game to gauge the interest would be good for the club.

As for last Monday Nights game at Leichhardt, that was a fantastic crowd. It's hard to see many Monday nights crowds in the NRL that are going to be bigger than that or have an atmosphere to match what we saw at Leichhardt. There is genuine excitement in the area again with all our juniors coming through. Woods grew up down the road and is a lovable Captain.

The Easter game at ANZ will also be great. ANZ works for these big games against the Bulldogs and Parra.

It wouldn't be easy for everyone to see our Club relocate but if people were to see the bigger picture? It has massive advantages, just look at the Broncos how there benefiting and Storm aren't doing to bad considering there in an AFL mad State.
Also like gold Coast tiger says you will still get plenty of games in Sydney.

We are on top of the Club Championship at the moment, Very pleasing.

 

[Telltails]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

There is no doubt that there is to many Sydney teams , it's a question of when the NRL will act on it and reduce the teams in Sydney?
When it happens ? what do people want….us joining another Club like Penrith or a Parramatta ? for example , the general poor Crowds of many NRL sides suggest that Clubs are simply not getting the revenue through the gates and many Clubs are needing a lot more Memberships to stay afloat , the NRL has already topped up 3 Clubs to help them out through there Financial troubles and with the game now becoming a T.V Heaven on Foxs Sports crowds will continue to struggle .

I have also said that in the past goldcoast tiger that the 1st Club to able to get to Perth will insure there survival and like you said they will be playing in Sydney at least 8 times .
Many won't like the idea but the fans you will loose in Sydney over the decision to go to Perth ? i'm sure eventually you will get the support in Perth and rubber stamp our future.....won't be an easy transition for many btu it's only a matter of time before the NRL acts on it .

I fully understand that those who go to every home ground as well as their other games in Sydney, wouldn't like it, as I wasn't happy about that when I moved to Qld.
And that was in 1980, so there wasn't much on tv then.
Even now I only get to see a couple of games live. But I still get to see every game that they play.
Even if we do get better at times, I can't see us really getting to being one of the big fish unless we are prepared to make the hard decisions that are needed.
Just for once I'd like to see us take the initiative , and not always trying to catch up.
Now I'm going to the shelter, as I think I hear arrows :laughing:

No arrows GCT but to move away from your team and continue to follow them is one thing but to move a team away from its origins to develop a whole new supporter base on the other side of the country - sorry no way.
If some fans feel disconnected to the club, by living on the other side of Sydney how long do you think fans will support a club whose main focus would be to establish its profile/ links in Perth?
If all the energy goes toward pleasing and engaging the Perth fans and they are successful in doing so,there is very little need to then put any time into maintaining their links to old fans. And if they are unsuccessful well they wont be coming back.
Wrong message to send to the NRL - dont think any other Sydney clubs are talking about it, nor should we.

 

[foreveratiger]

The only way to stop all the squabbling , is bite the bullet, and move to Perth.
There'd stillprobably be approx 8 or 9 games a year is Sydney,
Perth would be a one team town with all the benefits that come with that. We'd pick up a whole lot of new supporters and get helped by the NRL to do it.
And we have the perfect name for it
IMO it's the perfect way to go. Something has to give in Sydney eventually. And we'd gaurantee our future.
Unless we start to regularly pull bigger crowds and get to be better off financially. Well just continue to develop kids an d then worry about when other clubs were coming knocking.
The price of housing and the lifestyle will be a good incentive for players to come to the club as well.
It probably won't happen, but sooner or later some club is going to see the benefits and go for it, but we'l still be grizzling about cCambelltown and LO

There is no doubt that there is to many Sydney teams , it's a question of when the NRL will act on it and reduce the teams in Sydney?
When it happens ? what do people want….us joining another Club like Penrith or a Parramatta ? for example , the general poor Crowds of many NRL sides suggest that Clubs are simply not getting the revenue through the gates and many Clubs are needing a lot more Memberships to stay afloat , the NRL has already topped up 3 Clubs to help them out through there Financial troubles and with the game now becoming a T.V Heaven on Foxs Sports crowds will continue to struggle .

I have also said that in the past goldcoast tiger that the 1st Club to able to get to Perth will insure there survival and like you said they will be playing in Sydney at least 8 times .
Many won't like the idea but the fans you will loose in Sydney over the decision to go to Perth ? i'm sure eventually you will get the support in Perth and rubber stamp our future.....won't be an easy transition for many btu it's only a matter of time before the NRL acts on it .

I fully understand that those who go to every home ground as well as their other games in Sydney, wouldn't like it, as I wasn't happy about that when I moved to Qld.
And that was in 1980, so there wasn't much on tv then.
Even now I only get to see a couple of games live. But I still get to see every game that they play.
Even if we do get better at times, I can't see us really getting to being one of the big fish unless we are prepared to make the hard decisions that are needed.
Just for once I'd like to see us take the initiative , and not always trying to catch up.
Now I'm going to the shelter, as I think I hear arrows :laughing:

No arrows GCT but to move away from your team and continue to follow them is one thing but to move a team away from its origins to develop a whole new supporter base on the other side of the country - sorry no way.
If some fans feel disconnected to the club, by living on the other side of Sydney how long do you think fans will support a club whose main focus would be to establish its profile/ links in Perth?
If all the energy goes toward pleasing and engaging the Perth fans and they are successful in doing so,there is very little need to then put any time into maintaining their links to old fans. And if they are unsuccessful well they wont be coming back.
Wrong message to send to the NRL - dont think any other Sydney clubs are talking about it, nor should we.

It's a matter of time before the NRL acts on reducing Clubs in Sydney Telltails, then what are we going to do then? Rest assured Wests Tigers will be one of those as Balmain won't be funding the Club any longer.
Fact of the matter is most people watch the Footy from home and people only go to our games when we are winning, we can't be relying on funds when we are only winning and even then the Crowds are still low.

It's a touchy subject i know and many won't like it after what we been through in merging but to ensure our Survival we need to act IMO or 15,000 - 20,000 members is what's required to be in Sydney…..then again there won't be any guarantees.