Wests Tigers Restructure [MERGED]

[innsaneink]

Good news

Less games might make some of these that ARENT attending appreciate these suburban games more….it seemed to before from about 04 - 06 or 07, Humpty made a decision to increase games there again, not based on financials. but more a popularist decision....didnt everyone love him back then??? :unamused:
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Board restructures wont mean a thing to the fairweather fan...home grounds will to an extent, but winning is what they all want, and will bring them back.
Hopefully the cash injection and squabbling over crucial decisions such as home base/training facilitiies will see us finally able to compete on a level playing field in a few years time....that'll bring the fly-by-nighter masses back

 

[wtfl1981]

True True

Although the article seems to imply that regardless of success or home crowds at LO/CSS, the club will be moving all home games to ANZ.

Can a decision be now made by WT about the south west without it being interpreted as wests group bias?

Example would a 6 x Campbelltown + 6 x ANZ arrangement be seen as possible Wests bias or as locking in the south west from a NRL perspective? Curious to see how that goes..

All 9 sydney teams at SFS/ANZ… Really? Penrith vs Gold Coast at ANZ.. What a cracker!

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[Knuckles]

I don't think that will happen '81 …... Particularly if Jim Marsden is appointed as one of the Independants ! Irrespective I don't see all our games being played out of Homebush.

 

[Furious1]

It's great news. I'm hopeful that membership may get a kick along too for this year. I know a few people ( myself included) who were reluctant to part with the hard earned for a club that just seemed to want to throw money away

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[Tim Sheens]

Although the article seems to imply that regardless of success or home crowds at LO/CSS, the club will be moving all home games to ANZ.

All 9 sydney teams at SFS/ANZ… Really? Penrith vs Gold Coast at ANZ.. What a cracker!

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I can't see how they can centralise all the matches. AFL can get away with it as the game is spread out much more, whereas league severely punishes the middle of the ground.

The Olympic stadium has enough trouble as it is, and I expect more problems this year,with saints and us putting more pressure on the surface. Might be okay if it was a summer sport, but we all know grass does not grow well in winter.

 

[shane2801]

Good news

Less games might make some of these that ARENT attending appreciate these suburban games more….it seemed to before from about 04 - 06 or 07, Humpty made a decision to increase games there again, not based on financials. but more a popularist decision....didnt everyone love him back then??? :unamused:
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Board restructures wont mean a thing to the fairweather fan...home grounds will to an extent, but winning is what they all want, and will bring them back.
Hopefully the cash injection and squabbling over crucial decisions such as home base/training facilitiies will see us finally able to compete on a level playing field in a few years time....that'll bring the fly-by-nighter masses back

Spot On, Average results bring average crowds. It's as simple as that. Also average performances bring disharmony and fighting. I don't remember a lot of in-house fighting in 2005/6

 

[diedpretty]

I'm not trying to start a fight but I have a question

What is going to stop the Balmain and Wests factions still bringing their agendas to the table and getting the independent to vote one way or the

Absolutely nothing Happy … And that's the beauty of this arrangement. There's nothing wrong with any director pushing any agenda. But he has has to convince someone that is not aligned to go along with it. This gets rid of the old what's best for the Magpies or Balmain mentality. The focus is now completely on Wests Tigers. It doesn't mean the foundation clubs are out of it and no longer represented. The four foundation directors only have to join together to keep the history in the club .... Which is another plus ..... **We may see the Balmain and Magpies directors joining forces more often if the Independants throw up something they don't like**.

That may be the case in the future when Balmain clear their debt but for now the Balmain directors have no voting rights so whatever the independents say is what happens.

 

[diedpretty]

I don't think that will happen '81 …... Particularly if Jim Marsden is appointed as one of the Independants ! Irrespective I don't see all our games being played out of Homebush.

I'm guessing this was tongue in cheek - I know Marsden has been pushing the Campbelltown barrow a bit lately but even in his wildest dreams could he consider himself independent.

 

[Russell]

Well, it may not be ideal but it will certainly be 100% improvement on what we had.
No more in fighting hopefully and no more self interest!!!

Got into a friendly argument at the coffee shop with a Wests fanatic (that's good) - however he cannot accept the Wests Tigers because they should be Wests Magpies, black and white and play out of Cambelltown. After awhile the only surprise was that he didn't want them to play out of Pratten Park. How are we ever going to make this work if people on both sides will not compromise - supporters joining since the JV are just being dragged into this fiasco. Let us unite people and use our energy against the enemy - the other 15 clubs.

Can't see a hope in hell of Balmain paying back 9.5 million in two years, so I guess they will forgo having any board members forever.
This brings me to the point of independent board members - this is a great idea. However for it to work properly they truly need to be independent. Masterton would be as independent as Keith Barnes - the choices need to be made very carefully as it is very important that all decisions are made in the best interests of the Wests Tigers group. No affiliations, no support and no interest whatsoever linked to Wests or Balmain, should be the start of the pre requisite.
Our great club will live or die on the decisions of these three choices - remember there are only 2 from Western Suburbs and none from Balmain. Bloody hell!, my heart is in my mouth just thinking about it.
Have we sold the soul of the Tiger for 30 pieces of silver?

 

[tigermaniac]

So in 2 years time, if Balmain can't repay there debt, they lose all JV rights. It also seems the NRL are only baby sitting for that timeframe. I think you will see more games at Campbelltown in the future with the mess Balmain is in. Let's face it, they couldn't resolve their issues to date, what makes one think things will change in the next 2 years.
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2yrs = good from far, but, far from good

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[GNR4LIFE]

So Balmain have no voting power, is that correct?

All votes the board decides on will be a 5 man vote between the Wests reps and the independents?

 

[diedpretty]

So Balmain have no voting power, is that correct?

All votes the board decides on will be a 5 man vote between the Wests reps and the independents?

Yea if the original article is correct the Balmain directors will have no voting rights until their debt is cleared. It does seem strange - to me it should be until they start contributing again to WT. The debt has nothing to do with WT really. But in the meantime yep it's a 7 man board with voting rights only to 3 independents and 2 Wests Group directors. So effectively whatever the independents decide is what happens. In some ways that is good but it all depends on what guidelines/framework they have to work within. For example if the independents are instructed that financial stability and longevity are the main things that need to be achieved and an offer of big bucks for relocation is put on the table what would they do?

 

[supercoach]

You now only need one independent board member to side with the Wests members and they win every time, and on the other hand the Balmain board members need to get all three independents on side to get their ideas up and running. It may be fair as Wests are contributing large hunks of cash to keep the joint venture afloat, but my guess their will be plenty of drama

 

[tiger85]

if in 2 years balmain arent in the boardroom is there any chance we will have a change of mascot. will we cease being called the tigers? because thats all i care about! i go for wests tigers if that changes im done with rugby league.

 

[innsaneink]

Im sure we'll always be the Tigers…Wests Tigers.
It would just be back to square one if they were to change the name....how the hell can we ever go forward if were always starting from scratch

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The club will never revert back to the Magpies, its dumb to even speculate that.

How in 2014 do you change the brand to a team that hasn't been around in 15 yrs? Would be like if the NRL suddenly re-instated Newtown as well when Souths got let back in to the comp. There'd be no attraction to have the Magpies over WT's, you'd lose a brand that is modern and people are familiar with and you'd lose half the supporter base. Hell, from what i read, the majority of ex-Magpie fans don't want it to happen either.

WA aren't that dumb.

 

[Staks]

Im sure we'll always be the Tigers…Wests Tigers.
It would just be back to square one if they were to change the name....how the hell can we ever go forward if were always starting from scratch

This should of happen from the start…

I keep asking myself 'who are the Wests Tigers', 'what/who do they represent' .... is the continued demise of both Wests and Balmain a good thing.... hmmm I'm not sure... as an old Wests fan I am grateful to Balmain... as lets face it... the Tiger brand has kept this joint venture going for the past 15 years when fossils kept trying to bring it down....

An identity is the most important item that the new constitution must give the Wests Tigers. I actually think we will go backwards in the short term (yes again) as not every bandwagoners needs & vision is going to met... membership numbers have highlighted this

Interesting times ahead my friend... but hey arent we used to it by now :wink:

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[Tigersmurf]

Great post Staks. The things that concern me are:

If Western Suburbs holds two places on the board, and Balmain hold two places, but Balmain's votes revert to Western Suburbs because they can't fund anything, then don't the Western Suburbs side have a 4-3 majority over the NRL appointed representatives?

If not and the NRL reps hold the majority, then what is to stop the NRL from declaring that it is in the "best interests of the tigers" to relocate to Brisbane? Can't the NRL undermine us if it suits their agenda?

I am not saying that either party are untrustworthy, but they will look to feather their own bows wouldn't they?

Another thing that gets me, is how come whenever the fight between the codes is mentioned in the West, Penrith are the only club that gets mentioned?? We are more West that Penrith given that we cover the Macarthur region. If we are no threat to the other codes then why did the Giants steal our colours?

None of the above might be relevant, but these are the points that concern me. I do however believe we are moving in the right direction!

 

[innsaneink]

There will be many things in the new constitution we will never know…Mayer mentioned this yesterday on 2SM...most of it will be confidential, I imagine like the original constitution.

 

[Tigerpete]

Hi guys, i'm back after my off season break.

I'm absolutely stoked at this new way forward with the governance of the club. I finally feel like we can move forward and make decisions in the full interests of Wests Tigers. There is SO much potential in this JV and it's been a shame to waste it like we have previously. I don't expect results overnight but it's fair to say we've got a good chance of cashing in sooner than later with the young talent, and getting this club back up the upper echelon of the nrl.